High tech reef build. Money=no object. Suggestions please - Page 3

Gtstricky · 07/10/2008, 06:03 PM

This is another photo from the Joe Garth photobucket album:

http://s306.photobucket.com/albums/nn263/joegarth/

moo0o · 07/10/2008, 06:10 PM

haha, why are you guys so caught up on this being BS. he just wanted our suggestions...

raen · 07/10/2008, 06:10 PM

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Originally posted by Tswifty8
I'm with you Gtstricky... Call up cancel a custom tank, then order a new on like that... Not to mention a jump from 350 to 1050... Only 2 weeks to build a tank, cause you gave them a little extra... sorry bro I'm not buying what your selling.

Yup! the pictures of the house....come on, 2500sq feet holding a 1050? I have a 4000aq ft home, and would never think of puting that in a house. Unless you don't mind taking up 2 whole rooms. I think I smell a rat too. I hope not, people take this seriously, and put tons of time and energy into this wonderful hobby. BS!!!

Gtstricky · 07/10/2008, 06:14 PM

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Originally posted by moo0o
haha, why are you guys so caught up on this being BS. he just wanted our suggestions...

Because it is one thing to say "hey if you had no limits on spending what equipment would you get?" and another to put together a BS story about a dead grandfather.

Admins close this thread please before it gets ugly.

MPeer · 07/10/2008, 06:30 PM

Are the local public aquariums usually this cooperative with a new hobbyist?

spschiebel · 07/10/2008, 07:07 PM

I'm not buying it.

Two considerations that make this seemingly unplausible.

First, getting a 160" x 48" tank into a basement is going to require some serious work unless it is a walk in basement. From the picture it is not.

Second, the weight of this tank would be enormous. At only 1/2" thick glass each of the long panels would be 266lb. I also doubt that a 14' panel of glass is a standard size even from glass manufacturers.

Tswifty · 07/10/2008, 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Gtstricky
Because it is one thing to say "hey if you had no limits on spending what equipment would you get?" and another to put together a BS story about a dead grandfather.

Admins close this thread please before it gets ugly.

Bingo... Perhaps his time would be better spent coming up with a recipe for sweeter smelling BS... He's shoveling this stuff on so heavy I can smell it from my thread.

I just hate to see threads like these, especially when there are hobbyist with actual problems on this site.

Over 800 views and 50 responses, this has already gone too far.

That being said, I'm done adding to this disgrace

phenom5 · 07/10/2008, 07:37 PM

My first thought was troll...but normally trolls just seem to be interested in geting into a flamefest...oh well...

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davidryder · 07/10/2008, 07:38 PM

Oh man I missed so much. So, let me get this straight. If anybody has forgotten, his original occupation said med school but in his original post he said that he just quit his job and will have nothing going on for the next few months. Now his occupation says he was a sales rep for verizon. Ok, moving on.

Here is what has transpired thus far:

1) Ordered a 350g tank from GC (who blindly orders such a large tank?)
2) Purchased $500 in books
3) Canceled order on tank after getting advice
4) Someone said it's unbelievable GC allowed him to cancel his order
5) Admitted GC did not cancel the order
6) Decides to go with a 14' tank (how would you get it in the basement of such a small house?)
7) Says the 14' tank will be ready in 2 weeks
8) People don't believe tank will be ready in two weeks
9) Admits tank won't be ready in 2 weeks
10) Claims entire tank will be setup in a month

Have I missed anything?

Sorry, but I would think that a med student with a very wealthy grandfather wouldn't have to work as a Verizon sales rep and be foolish enough to ask hobbyists such a general and broad question as his first post.

EDIT: I want a screenshot of the completed order for the $500 of books or this thread is complete BS. I also want a screenshot of the receipt for the 350g tank that was ordered. Then we can go back to taking the OP seriously.

spooda420 · 07/10/2008, 08:08 PM

I want a bank account statement posted...

if he's really talking about high end equipment and 1400g of water... thats easily over $30k rock, tank, skimmer, lights, stand, CA reactor, pumps, vortechs/tunze power heads, etc... easily $30k

spmedi · 07/10/2008, 08:18 PM

i don't want a bank statement, or pic of a receipt...

i'd like to know if that is a part of a house outside the window of the basement...

and if so....where'd it go...

oh...and what time of year is it in California, cause either your trees need some watering or....

spooda420 · 07/10/2008, 08:30 PM

good point. everything including the grass is dormant... even the newly installed boxwood or whatever they are near the entrance, have the winter color to them...

reefergeorge · 07/10/2008, 08:36 PM

[QUOTE]Originally posted by spmedi
[B]

oh...and what time of year is it in California, cause either your trees need some watering or....

Joetaff · 07/10/2008, 08:43 PM

okay so what do you guys want from me? Im just trying to share a part of my life with you. Im not trying to start an argument on some controversial issue. I just wanted some suggestions I didn't want to cause such a big investigation. I feel like I just killed someone the way you are searching my photobucket and posting my little brothers picture in the forum, I guess that is supposed to make me look stupid. I'm sorry for having a little fun while helping him set up a nano. Damn, I'm not trying to prove anything because in reality If you are saying i'm full of crap there is nothing I could do to make you change your mind short of meeting you in person.

here's the books I was given by my local aquarium club

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Some more I acquired through various sources (online, local book stores, used)

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If you want to sit here and accuse me just don't post thats fine with me, Think whatever you want I'm not forcing you to do anything. If you still have some valid advice I'm certainly open to hear it but im done proving things to you because as I said thats impossible you have already decided. but anyways Thanks for the great advice so far, I have decided on a volcano skimmer because I have the room for it. I just still dont know on light yet....

MinnFish · 07/10/2008, 08:54 PM

I'm confused.

Tswifty · 07/10/2008, 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Joetaff
hey I am a good friend of Jason (user name Hogarth) and I was at the house he is looking into buying. IT is amazing. This huge tank wont even look that big in his basement!!!

Quote:

Originally posted by Joetaff
okay so what do you guys want from me? Im just trying to share a part of my life with you.

Hmmm... how strange... I thought this was Hogarth's thread

how deep do you want to go man

ok no seriously I swear I'm done now... it's just too easy now, you're unraveling all your lies on your own now.

MinnFish · 07/10/2008, 08:58 PM

This is really sad. Please close this thread. I'll go and help someone that needs it.

spmedi · 07/10/2008, 08:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Joetaff
I feel like I just killed someone ...

an 89 year old man...

and apparently Hogarth...

Davidd2324 · 07/10/2008, 09:02 PM

why don't someone just call glasscages and ask if someone is building something like this, you heard on a forum they were and you like the dimensions, and you want to know if you can drop by and see one that size before you order it.

reefergeorge · 07/10/2008, 09:08 PM

It's nice of you to fly your buddy Joetaff out to Cali from kentucky to see the house.

reefergeorge · 07/10/2008, 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Joetaff
hey I am a good friend of Jason (user name Hogarth) and I was at the house he is looking into buying. IT is amazing. This huge tank wont even look that big in his basement!!!

Joetaff · 07/10/2008, 09:15 PM

okay jigs up, damn I just wanted to hear what everyones thoughts on their dream equipment was. I was hoping to kill a few hours of insomnia hear what the best equipment was and wakeup tommorow to find this thread on page 5. Haha it was kinda fun to create an alternate identity. just goes to show how damn hard it is to keep a lie going. to be honest I thought I was going to be called out on the first reply. oh well. It was fun to see what the dream equipment was for the first page and 1/2 before this erupted. Again i didn't mean for this to go on so long, but it was like spur of the moment, its kinda fun to try and prove someone wrong even though you are wrong haha kind aliek a challenge but oh well wasted time at work today

but what about the books??? didn't that help any credibility??!?!?! thos were great pics!

Giga · 07/10/2008, 09:27 PM

u are scum

davidryder · 07/10/2008, 09:27 PM

Hahaha he probably didn't even realize he was posting under Joetaff. He forgot to logout and login as his new alias.

There is a chance we will see Moved On in their near future.

Joetaff · 07/10/2008, 09:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Giga
u are scum

for having a little fun, get a life

07/10/2008, 07:07 PM	#56
spschiebel Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Batam, Indonesia Posts: 10	I'm not buying it. Two considerations that make this seemingly unplausible. First, getting a 160" x 48" tank into a basement is going to require some serious work unless it is a walk in basement. From the picture it is not. Second, the weight of this tank would be enormous. At only 1/2" thick glass each of the long panels would be 266lb. I also doubt that a 14' panel of glass is a standard size even from glass manufacturers. __________________ Steve

07/10/2008, 07:37 PM	#58
phenom5 Unregistered Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Arizona Posts: 5,096	My first thought was troll...but normally trolls just seem to be interested in geting into a flamefest...oh well... [/unsubscribe] __________________ Rob Current Tank Info: DSA 155 Pro \| ATI Sunpower \| ATB 840 v2 \| Apex \| Wav

07/10/2008, 07:38 PM	#59
davidryder Claris or Elliot? Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Nightopia Posts: 2,750	Oh man I missed so much. So, let me get this straight. If anybody has forgotten, his original occupation said med school but in his original post he said that he just quit his job and will have nothing going on for the next few months. Now his occupation says he was a sales rep for verizon. Ok, moving on. Here is what has transpired thus far: 1) Ordered a 350g tank from GC (who blindly orders such a large tank?) 2) Purchased $500 in books 3) Canceled order on tank after getting advice 4) Someone said it's unbelievable GC allowed him to cancel his order 5) Admitted GC did not cancel the order 6) Decides to go with a 14' tank (how would you get it in the basement of such a small house?) 7) Says the 14' tank will be ready in 2 weeks 8) People don't believe tank will be ready in two weeks 9) Admits tank won't be ready in 2 weeks 10) Claims entire tank will be setup in a month Have I missed anything? Sorry, but I would think that a med student with a very wealthy grandfather wouldn't have to work as a Verizon sales rep and be foolish enough to ask hobbyists such a general and broad question as his first post. EDIT: I want a screenshot of the completed order for the $500 of books or this thread is complete BS. I also want a screenshot of the receipt for the 350g tank that was ordered. Then we can go back to taking the OP seriously. __________________ A rolling stone gathers no moss... Current Tank Info: 90g mixed reef, corner overflow (Mag 9.5), 25g refugium (Mag 5), 15g refugium, Orbit 260w pc, Pan World 50PX-X (Closed loop), AquaC EV-120 (now skimmerless)

07/10/2008, 08:08 PM	#60
spooda420 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: O'Fallon MO Posts: 1,688	I want a bank account statement posted... if he's really talking about high end equipment and 1400g of water... thats easily over $30k rock, tank, skimmer, lights, stand, CA reactor, pumps, vortechs/tunze power heads, etc... easily $30k __________________ Chris Current Tank Info: 250g, 150g sump, H&S 250x2 1260s, T5s, GEO CA reactor, MA Sulfur DeNITRIFIER XL, 300lbs LR, 6" DSB, running ozone, all controlled by the Apex controller.

07/10/2008, 08:30 PM	#62
spooda420 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: O'Fallon MO Posts: 1,688	good point. everything including the grass is dormant... even the newly installed boxwood or whatever they are near the entrance, have the winter color to them... __________________ Chris Current Tank Info: 250g, 150g sump, H&S 250x2 1260s, T5s, GEO CA reactor, MA Sulfur DeNITRIFIER XL, 300lbs LR, 6" DSB, running ozone, all controlled by the Apex controller.

07/10/2008, 06:03 PM	#51
Gtstricky Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Kennett Sq, PA Posts: 496	This is another photo from the Joe Garth photobucket album: http://s306.photobucket.com/albums/nn263/joegarth/

07/10/2008, 06:10 PM	#52
moo0o Premium Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: SJ,CA Posts: 1,694	haha, why are you guys so caught up on this being BS. he just wanted our suggestions...

07/10/2008, 06:30 PM	#55
MPeer Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Bay Area CA Posts: 584	Are the local public aquariums usually this cooperative with a new hobbyist?

07/10/2008, 08:18 PM	#61
spmedi Registered Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Indianapolis, IN Posts: 285	i don't want a bank statement, or pic of a receipt... i'd like to know if that is a part of a house outside the window of the basement... and if so....where'd it go... oh...and what time of year is it in California, cause either your trees need some watering or....

07/10/2008, 08:36 PM	#63
reefergeorge Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: St Louis MO Posts: 4,222	[QUOTE]Originally posted by spmedi [B] oh...and what time of year is it in California, cause either your trees need some watering or....

07/10/2008, 08:43 PM	#64
Joetaff Moved On Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 54	okay so what do you guys want from me? Im just trying to share a part of my life with you. Im not trying to start an argument on some controversial issue. I just wanted some suggestions I didn't want to cause such a big investigation. I feel like I just killed someone the way you are searching my photobucket and posting my little brothers picture in the forum, I guess that is supposed to make me look stupid. I'm sorry for having a little fun while helping him set up a nano. Damn, I'm not trying to prove anything because in reality If you are saying i'm full of crap there is nothing I could do to make you change your mind short of meeting you in person. here's the books I was given by my local aquarium club [IMG][/IMG] Some more I acquired through various sources (online, local book stores, used) [IMG][/IMG] If you want to sit here and accuse me just don't post thats fine with me, Think whatever you want I'm not forcing you to do anything. If you still have some valid advice I'm certainly open to hear it but im done proving things to you because as I said thats impossible you have already decided. but anyways Thanks for the great advice so far, I have decided on a volcano skimmer because I have the room for it. I just still dont know on light yet....

07/10/2008, 08:54 PM	#65
MinnFish Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Home of 10,000 lakes Posts: 917	I'm confused. __________________ 33G Long, 4x54 watt T5, Tunze 6025, Tunze Osmolator ATO, Tunze Streamfilter 3163 Posts about moving an oversized fish to a bigger tank. Is like hearing every stripper is just working to pay for colle

07/10/2008, 08:58 PM	#67
MinnFish Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Home of 10,000 lakes Posts: 917	This is really sad. Please close this thread. I'll go and help someone that needs it.

07/10/2008, 09:02 PM	#69
Davidd2324 Moved On Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 373	why don't someone just call glasscages and ask if someone is building something like this, you heard on a forum they were and you like the dimensions, and you want to know if you can drop by and see one that size before you order it.

07/10/2008, 09:08 PM	#70
reefergeorge Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: St Louis MO Posts: 4,222	It's nice of you to fly your buddy Joetaff out to Cali from kentucky to see the house. __________________ $35-50 for a <1" frag of some stupid named thing that came from a colony you bought for $40-60 wholesale and chopped into 20-40 pieces? No thanks. "JasonH" Current Tank Info: 125 aggressive reef, DIY led lighting, swc cone skimmer, 33 gallon sump, posiden Ps3 return.

07/10/2008, 09:15 PM	#72
Joetaff Moved On Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 54	okay jigs up, damn I just wanted to hear what everyones thoughts on their dream equipment was. I was hoping to kill a few hours of insomnia hear what the best equipment was and wakeup tommorow to find this thread on page 5. Haha it was kinda fun to create an alternate identity. just goes to show how damn hard it is to keep a lie going. to be honest I thought I was going to be called out on the first reply. oh well. It was fun to see what the dream equipment was for the first page and 1/2 before this erupted. Again i didn't mean for this to go on so long, but it was like spur of the moment, its kinda fun to try and prove someone wrong even though you are wrong haha kind aliek a challenge but oh well wasted time at work today but what about the books??? didn't that help any credibility??!?!?! thos were great pics! Last edited by Joetaff; 07/10/2008 at 09:22 PM.

07/10/2008, 09:27 PM	#73
Giga Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Virginia beach, VA Posts: 1,709	u are scum __________________ "You said it didn't bite!"......."Well"......"It didn't bite me." Current Tank Info: cool