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Unread 07/18/2009, 01:15 AM   #51
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Bummer on the white spots Some people would say treat with copper but you'll get many differing opinions on that too.
I know Ive been trying to decide between copper and hypo, I tried looking earlier for the best method to treat it and came up empty, but that was only a 20-30 min search. my Sg is only at 1.022 right now so it wouldnt be a big deal to raise it back and treat with copper if that would be the best approach...thank you for the response


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Unread 07/18/2009, 01:20 AM   #52
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If you get a psudo, my god help you. They will chase anything and just about everything in the tank.

You want mine? fat and plump ready for a good home.
lol, If I can find one thats as passive as my fridmani I'm gonna have to try it out. I know my fridmani sticks around his rock and thats it, only fish he ever bothered was my yellow wrasse as every 30 minutes or so he would go wondering over that way looking from stuff ta eat and get chased off.


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Unread 07/18/2009, 06:44 AM   #53
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I am not sure if mine is a fridmani or a purple, but, he goes around "looking" for anything and everything. Under rocks, in crevices.....wherever! Its like man, sometimes I wish he would look in a rock and then a big ol fish just chase him down and eat him, only to teach him a lesson, lol, but, he is out of the tank now so its really no big deal other than having to have a seperate tank for him.


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Unread 07/18/2009, 06:47 AM   #54
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My clown goby would collect microbubbles on the skin. It was very hard to tell it was a bubble untill seeing one knock loose and float away. I see bubbles in the tank so double check.


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Unread 07/18/2009, 07:05 AM   #55
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That clown gobi has Cryptocaryon irritans, it is not ich but almost the same except the life cycle is different and the spots, (paracites) are larger.
The best treatment for this is quinicrine hydrocloride if you can get it. It is for malaria in humans and is a prescription drug. If you know a Dr. he can write you a prescription.
The dose is 10 mg/gal for 10 days.
You can use this in your main tank if you have no corals or anemones.
Crustaceans like crabs, shrimp and feather dusters are tollerant to the drug.
This treatment will eradicate the paracite from your tank but it will turn the water yellow for a few days. After the treatment you can add carbon which will remove the quinicrine. You do not have to change the water.
I have used this numerous times but I can't really get it anymore as my friendly pharmacict moved.


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Unread 07/18/2009, 07:53 AM   #56
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Been following this thread because I'm leaning in the same direction. My only fish in the 180 are an old blue spotted yellow watchman, a bi-color blenny, purple mandarin, green mandarin and a starry blenny I just picked up this week. I think a large tank with lots af smaller fish is great idea. Working up a stocking list while listening to everyone else's great input.


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Unread 07/18/2009, 10:42 AM   #57
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I am not sure if mine is a fridmani or a purple, but, he goes around "looking" for anything and everything. Under rocks, in crevices.....wherever! Its like man, sometimes I wish he would look in a rock and then a big ol fish just chase him down and eat him, only to teach him a lesson, lol, but, he is out of the tank now so its really no big deal other than having to have a seperate tank for him.
a fridmani will show more of a metalic coloration along with with a black stripe running from the top of the mouth through the eye and ending shortly after that... and its always nice to have another tank setup


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Unread 07/18/2009, 10:50 AM   #58
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That clown gobi has Cryptocaryon irritans, it is not ich but almost the same except the life cycle is different and the spots, (paracites) are larger.
The best treatment for this is quinicrine hydrocloride if you can get it. It is for malaria in humans and is a prescription drug. If you know a Dr. he can write you a prescription.
The dose is 10 mg/gal for 10 days.
You can use this in your main tank if you have no corals or anemones.
Crustaceans like crabs, shrimp and feather dusters are tollerant to the drug.
This treatment will eradicate the paracite from your tank but it will turn the water yellow for a few days. After the treatment you can add carbon which will remove the quinicrine. You do not have to change the water.
I have used this numerous times but I can't really get it anymore as my friendly pharmacict moved.
Paul, your insight is very much appreaciated as always. My sister-in-law works as a pharmacict but i dont think i'm gonna go that route. I was reading here...
http://www.fishvet.com/Cryptocaryon.htm
and they recomend using a copper based medication and they refer to No-Ich as a good cannidate to treat Cryptocaryon irritans
and i already have a bottle of Rid-Ich from when i treated my purple tang for Ich. Unless there is something better, than i can go and pick it up... I already starting raising my Sg back up... again thank you


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Unread 07/18/2009, 10:57 AM   #59
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Been following this thread because I'm leaning in the same direction. My only fish in the 180 are an old blue spotted yellow watchman, a bi-color blenny, purple mandarin, green mandarin and a starry blenny I just picked up this week. I think a large tank with lots af smaller fish is great idea. Working up a stocking list while listening to everyone else's great input.
can you post a pic of your purple mandarin? my search came up epty. I only wish I had a 180 to work with, I would go with about 20-30 different species of gobie's and then sum. and do you ever notice your mandarins having squabbles together?


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Unread 07/18/2009, 12:21 PM   #60
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Just a garden variety psychadelic mandarin. Never have a problem unless you get two males together. Goby madness is approaching, I thing I'll start with this rainford I saw when picking up the starry blenny. There's a new LFS twenty miles away that looks very promising, fish selection is incredible and all look healthy.


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Unread 07/18/2009, 01:15 PM   #61
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Just a garden variety psychadelic mandarin. Never have a problem unless you get two males together. Goby madness is approaching, I thing I'll start with this rainford I saw when picking up the starry blenny. There's a new LFS twenty miles away that looks very promising, fish selection is incredible and all look healthy.
lol, "goby madness" I wish a new LFS would open closer to me right now i have a 45 minute drive to get to mine. there's a pet-co a little over an hour away but the last time i went there all the fish looked like they were on the brink of death and when i asked the kid working there what the salinity was in the tanks and how often they check params. he said "huh?"... I hope your new LFS works out. and as you probably already know make sure the rainford is eating prepared foods, i bought one around 2 years ago and wouldnt eat anything. i dont even recall seeing him eat any filamentous algae, and slowly starved to death. but at that time i wasnt the greatest care giver so it could of been my poor husbandry habits which led to its demise. I wish you the best on your upcoming purchase


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Unread 07/18/2009, 01:29 PM   #62
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Yeah, I'm in the middle of nowhere too. Have to drive to LaSalle/Peru Il to get salt, and livegoods. Where in Wi are you? Can't wait to fund Gobyland here pretty soon, feels like a fun new direction. BTW, Blue Zoo has Pandas, have you got yours yet?


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Unread 07/18/2009, 02:03 PM   #63
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I live in Pearson WI population - 13, I only go to Drs. Foster and Smith up in rhinelander and have them order the fish I want, most the time they can get what I ask for and only tack on a few bucks for shipping. as far as the panda's i'll have to wait till I get these other clowns out of QT before I add any more, but those along with a starry blenny are next on the list, after that i'm going for either a yasha goby pistol shrimp pair, or the girl friend really wants a pair of purple fire fish... lol I had the panda gobies from blue zoo bookmarked, I had to check to see what site I saw those on, I was really close to ordering them one day but we ended up getting the green and yellows and then I talked with aaron at D.F.S. and he said he could probably order the panda gobies cos they use to carry them. thanks for lookin out though


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Unread 07/18/2009, 03:06 PM   #64
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here's a little better pic of the infestation...



I sent the ol' lady to get some no-ich and when she got back i put 2 and 2 together, that web site i posted earlier recomended no-ich by Fish-vet I'm thinking mainly because it was posted at fish-vet.com the only other copper based medication i have is rid-ich maybe i'll give the no-ich a try and if no results in the next few days after i start treating i'll change the water re-aclimate the fish and try hypo or rid-ich.


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Unread 07/18/2009, 05:43 PM   #65
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Good luck, keep in mind that "Fish Vet" who wrote that article sells "No Ich"
I hope it works for you.


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Unread 07/18/2009, 06:30 PM   #66
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barnacle blennys are pretty dope


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Unread 07/18/2009, 09:16 PM   #67
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before the brewers game I got the Sg back to 1.025 took all day to raise it and I just dosed 0.75 Oz of No-Ich. I'm not very optamistic and dont expect results, but we shall see

Burton, the barnacle blennies are freakin awesome, and I think they just make thier way onto the list


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Unread 07/20/2009, 12:58 PM   #68
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O.k. a few days after dosing No-Ich and so far it looks as if it is working ( as far as preliminary results go ) the infestation cleared up by about 60-70 percent. and they are still eating and behaving as they have since I got them.


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Unread 07/20/2009, 04:55 PM   #69
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Thats cool! Once it looks cleared, you should do the tank shuffle on them for 2 weeks.

Yea, my psudo is ALL purple, not like you describe, and a mean mean b*st*rd he is! lol


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Unread 07/20/2009, 10:49 PM   #70
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Thats cool! Once it looks cleared, you should do the tank shuffle on them for 2 weeks.
Tank shuffle? My apologies as Im just a lamen, I always liked the color of the purple pseudo's, I'm debating whether or not to try a cypho purpurascens, freakin BEAutiful! fish

http://eol.org/pages/205991

Here's a pic of one of the gobie's tonight, not totally cleared up yet, but looking better




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