WP-40 failed

[scottwhitson]

Quality also should be honesty. Tunze really ticked me off with there over rating of power heads and I dont know that I will purchase from them again. I have had quite a few issues with my Tunzes as well. The customer support has been good but still lots of downtime with them. I bought three 6205 that cost me around 1500 dollars and they only put out about half what they claim to do.

[thegrun]

Originally Posted by Dmorty217

I don't own tunze pumps anymore so that isn't the case. I do own a MP60 that isn't ever turned on. Point is everyone starts these threads talking about their great cheap pump and then they talk bad about anyone who buys Tunze or Ecotech are wasting their money ect. The thread started out as my pump doesn't work anymore, I asked if anyone was surprised being they are cheaply made and there isn't much CS and certainly not a forum thread on here to ask someone who works for WP about their pumps. I care simply because the ones who preach about the WPs being great and Tunze and ecotech being crap clearly have never owned the latter. Also can someone show me how many reef tanks of the month on here have WPs and other cheap chinese products such as lighting running them? Didn't think so, I'm not in this hobby for for a good enough tank,fish, or equipment. Clearly your missing the point here stempy, it isn't about jebao. I can name a number of other manufactures of power heads that I would never buy and never encourage others to buy. FYI I know people who have these pumps, and out of the 8 that have been purchased 2 still work... So back to that whole quality thing

Thank you for keeping us updated. I appreciate any of the WP users taking the time to give the rest of us feedback good or bad on their experiences with these pumps. It allows the rest of us to decide for ourselves if the reward (better price) is worth the risk (pump failure/functionality issues). In the end that is what we are all here for and what makes this site such a valuable tool to all of us, new to the hobby or old veterans (or just old in my case).

[ganjero]

Originally Posted by scottwhitson

Quality also should be honesty. Tunze really ticked me off with there over rating of power heads and I dont know that I will purchase from them again. I have had quite a few issues with my Tunzes as well. The customer support has been good but still lots of downtime with them. I bought three 6205 that cost me around 1500 dollars and they only put out about half what they claim to do.

You do know that propeller powerheads are rated according to estimates and the method each company decides to use to measure flow. It is very hard to actually measure the gph they are pushing. So there is no way you can objectively say they are putting out half of the flow the advertise, and using a bias test is also not the best point of reference.

Sorry for the off topic post.

[shifty51008]

Originally Posted by Dmorty217

Also can someone show me how many reef tanks of the month on here have WPs and other cheap chinese products such as lighting running them? Didn't think so, I'm not in this hobby for for a good enough tank,fish, or equipment.

So let me see if I understand this correctly. If people use wp pumps or chineese lights they will not ever have a beautiful tank or be on the tank of the month? just because none have been TOTM as of now, I can show you threads where people have beautiful looking tanks that IMO are TOTM worthy that run chineese lights or wp pumps.

I am willing to bet jebao pumps will grow corals just as good as tunze or vortech, or chineese lights grow corals just as good as a $800 fixture. you don't have to be rich to have a great looking tank.

Originally Posted by Dmorty217

Point is everyone starts these threads talking about their great cheap pump and then they talk bad about anyone who buys Tunze or Ecotech are wasting their money ect..

this also goes the other way, people talk about how great their expensive pumps are and talk down to others that have spent way less on something that does the same thing as their spendy pumps. the biggest diffrence is when these break, they either get replaced from warranty or it is cheap to buy a new one. when your spendy pumps break they either get fixed through warranty or it costs alot more to get a replacement part.

[scottwhitson]

Originally Posted by ganjero

You do know that propeller powerheads are rated according to estimates and the method each company decides to use to measure flow. It is very hard to actually measure the gph they are pushing. So there is no way you can objectively say they are putting out half of the flow the advertise, and using a bias test is also not the best point of reference.

Sorry for the off topic post.

Yes I do know this. But Tunze seems to be the worst at over rating their product and I have owned a lot of different ones. Any way this is getting way off topic. Anyway hopefully I have good luck with the 60s that I am going to try.

[andrewbram]

Maybe mine will fail. However I gave up my vortechs for my wp40s I love these things. Ordering a wp60 just to have back up in hand. No they aren't proven yet however I haven't heard of a failure in my local club yet. Fingers crossed.

[twistedfinn967]

Originally Posted by twistedfinn967

Wow, my WP-25 quit today. Same symptoms as you. I broke it down and cleaned it with no luck. I will get ahold of Fish Street (the vendor) when I get home from work...

Heard back from them this morning. $10 to cover s/h and they are sending me a new one...

[1Sik1500]

So 3-4 failures out of thousands sold? Not bad.

[BuckeyeFrags26]

Originally Posted by slajiness

My WP-40 failed today. Not sure what's wrong with it but all the lights are on but the propeller isn't spinning. I took it apart and cleaned everything to no avil. I had it for a little over 6 months so I contacted fish street where I purchased and they are sending me a new one. I did have to pay $25 for shipping but I'm happy with their service.

[BuckeyeFrags26]

look you should have just ponied up the money and spent the money on an MP ,instead of a company that wants to switch up one letter and be like another company that has been successful? there is a reason Eco-tech Marine is well known and respected THEY build quality products. you can't expect or even appreciate a high end powerhead til u even own an MP-10 ES. I WOULD PUT MY MP 10 ES wireless against the WP WHATEVER anyday! sorry but the shear quality and dominating capablilities are unbeatable! This in my opinion is an all or nothing hobby and why have to replace when u can buy quality over quantity? just me wondering???


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[BuckeyeFrags26]

Originally Posted by scottwhitson

Quality also should be honesty. Tunze really ticked me off with there over rating of power heads and I dont know that I will purchase from them again. I have had quite a few issues with my Tunzes as well. The customer support has been good but still lots of downtime with them. I bought three 6205 that cost me around 1500 dollars and they only put out about half what they claim to do.

i dont get how they've treated you wrong because they've always addressed and took care of any problem I have ever had. I own a 6205 and its on the lowest flow setting because it has the powerful thrust to push my 125gal around pretty beastly! and the auto top off system I own by them has been unbeatable paired with my RKE System. but everyone is entitled to there own opinion.



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[BuckeyeFrags26]

Originally Posted by shifty51008

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dmorty217

Also can someone show me how many reef tanks of the month on here have WPs and other cheap chinese products such as lighting running them? Didn't think so, I'm not in this hobby for for a good enough tank,fish, or equipment.

So let me see if I understand this correctly. If people use wp pumps or chineese lights they will not ever have a beautiful tank or be on the tank of the month? just because none have been TOTM as of now, I can show you threads where people have beautiful looking tanks that IMO are TOTM worthy that run chineese lights or wp pumps.

I am willing to bet jebao pumps will grow corals just as good as tunze or vortech, or chineese lights grow corals just as good as a $800 fixture. you don't have to be rich to have a great looking tank.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dmorty217

Point is everyone starts these threads talking about their great cheap pump and then they talk bad about anyone who buys Tunze or Ecotech are wasting their money ect..

this also goes the other way, people talk about how great their expensive pumps are and talk down to others that have spent way less on something that does the same thing as their spendy pumps. the biggest diffrence is when these break, they either get replaced from warranty or it is cheap to buy a new one. when your spendy pumps break they either get fixed through warranty or it costs alot more to get a replacement part.

no ur completely wrong entirely about that shifty! I know first hand the difference between what quality over quantity equals since I started out with cheaper made products. I've since upgraded to spoken of companys and u need to realize that quality is everything in this.hobby if. u wanna be successful. but ur.right any tank can be.worthy of tank of the month but odds of seeing one with low end equipment is slim to none!


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[shifty51008]

Have you looked and seen how many people have problems with their tunzes and vortechs also? I dont see how this is any diffrent? Where is the quality when people complain that their power supply is dead out of the box or the wrong power supply was sent with the pump?

[rlpardue]

I had a bad experience with Ecotech. Bought a WP40 5 months ago, I like it. No problems yet.

[shifty51008]

Originally Posted by BuckeyeFrags26

you can't expect or even appreciate a high end powerhead til u even own an MP-10 ES.[/SIZE]

I wouldn't even say that, with the noise most of the MP's put out I don't consider that quality. their is a DIY fix for the bearings that quiet's them down, if they were truely quality products they would start using better berrings in there produts to begin with.

[sirreal63]

[shifty51008]

enjoy the show Jack

[andrewbram]

My wp40 kicked my mp40's butt so I got rid of the vortech. Hands down I am way happier. Not saying vortechs are bad but for the price I will stick with my cheapo. I had a tunze wavebox and mp40 now just wp40s

[stempy07]

You know what all this reminds me of? Sony and microsoft fan boys going at it. Get over yourselves. You enjoy your pumps ill enjoy mine. I could give 2 craps what you spend your money on but yet you ecotech/tunze people feel the absolute NEED to look down on anyone who bought the "lesser" pump. Are these forums high school politics all over, the haves vs the have nots......second guessing why I joined. These threads are absurd, really. There is a thread where 2 tunze died....where are the flame wars in that thread....you even mention jebao and look out, here comes the jocks and preps to bash anyone who even thinks about owning one, ludicrous.

[stempy07]

This guy just mentioned that his wp died and that fish street was good enough to replace it, shoulda been "hey that's awesome!" Instead you get all this nonsense.

[andrewbram]

I agree stemp that is awesome just bugs me when some of us are on a budget and try to do the best we can and we get slammed.

[stempy07]

Exactly.

[ganjero]

It's awesome a retailer is backing up what they sell but for how long, hopefully for as long as they sell them (but watch out for the abusers that might stop this sooner). It would be nicer if the product was backed up like that by the manufacturer.

Like it was said here, there are probably thousands of pumps bought in group buys so most of those people will have no support or at least very complicated depending if it was done through FS.

I wonder if reefbreeders is also backing them up like that, that would be even better since they are in the United States.

[shifty51008]

I beleive reef breeders has a 6 month warrenty

[SpartaReef]

Originally Posted by ganjero

It's awesome a retailer is backing up what they sell but for how long, hopefully for as long as they sell them (but watch out for the abusers that might stop this sooner). It would be nicer if the product was backed up like that by the manufacturer.

Like it was said here, there are probably thousands of pumps bought in group buys so most of those people will have no support or at least very complicated depending if it was done through FS.

I wonder if reefbreeders is also backing them up like that, that would be even better since they are in the United States.

I emailed reefbreeders earlier this week, noticed some LEDs were burned out. They sent me a shipping label, reimbursed me the cost of packaging and are going to restore the light to factory condition... All free of charge. How's that for customer service?