Is Tanked (TV show) getting a little better? - Page 3

C.Eymann · 07/01/2016, 06:32 AM

Fish tank kings is another bag of weasles, their "expert" incorrectly pronounces the Latin names.

Probably small potatoes, but it gets under my skin, it's " ak-crop-rah" not "ak-roe-po-rah"

sde1500 · 07/01/2016, 06:36 AM

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Originally Posted by C.Eymann

Probably small potatoes, but it gets under my skin, it's " ak-crop-rah" not "ak-roe-po-rah"

And TIL I've been pronouncing it wrong. lol

C.Eymann · 07/01/2016, 06:40 AM

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Originally Posted by sde1500

And TIL I've been pronouncing it wrong. lol

I'm just a %#@ -hole, 98% of Americans say it incorrectly.

kmbyrnes · 07/01/2016, 06:58 AM

Haven't been to the Vegas location in a couple of years. When we went, my wife and I were greeted by 'the General' and he led us on a tour of the facility. Professional outfit, despite the 'unreality' of the show. On our way out we met Wade and Brett, who are definitely better off camera than on. I would have a beer with them. They seemed to be enjoying their 15 minutes of fame. Seems you now need to get tix for a tour and they have become like Pawn Stars.
But I still like the show for the fish buying trips. Gotta become better friends with my LFS ownerrs and get inside Sea Dwelling Creatures

sde1500 · 07/01/2016, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by C.Eymann

I'm just a %#@ -hole, 98% of Americans say it incorrectly.

haha ok good, because I probably wasn't going to change how I said it, sounds awful that way

karimwassef · 07/01/2016, 10:30 AM

US scientists and biologists say it right. I heard it on NPR yesterday : A-crop-ora

Socaltoaz · 07/01/2016, 10:40 AM

They built my tank. Tank quality is solid. I got a quote from them to do my filtration. It was bio balls and stuff. No skimmer. I did filtration on my own.

The tank is 96x48x40. Cost was about 15k. Have to check the exact amount.

The stand is steel- about 2500 I think.

They screwed up the stand and had to remake it.

Nice guys and I would probably buy from them again. I visited a couple of times and met Frankie and wade. But once they found out I wasn't doing the filtration and install with them, attitude changed and not as nice.

Regardless- they are knowledgable and out of all the outfits I tried to get in touch with to build my roughly 1000 gallon system, they were the most responsive and professional. They had their **** together whereas I kept getting the run around from other people I contacted.

Overall a decent experience. From what I could gather- what they do on the show is nothing what they promote in real life. The tanks they build for the show are just that- show. They get installed and get taken down. I saw the Pete Rose tank, Dwayne wade tank and a bunch others in their facility. Apparantly Pete Roses wife wouldn't let them in the house. They did the install in the backyard. Filmed the show and tore it all down.

karimwassef · 07/01/2016, 10:55 AM

Awww.. Really?

That's so sad. Why tear it down?? Who gets it afterwards?

Some of those custom installs are massive. I can't imagine that the cost of tearing those down would be economically viable vs. leaving them up and taking the loss - either as cost of advertising, donation, or just a plain tax write-off.

sde1500 · 07/01/2016, 11:15 AM

They probably get paid more per episode than they spend on those tanks. Something similar to fishing fleets on the show Deadliest Catch. They actually make enough money being featured on the show, that the fishing is almost for show. They undercut the price and screw up the whole market. But, the tv money more than makes up for it. Wouldn't be surprised if this were the same situation. Who cares if you have to build and tear down a 50k tank if Animal planet pays them 100k to do it?

http://www.adn.com/commentary/articl...me/2014/03/17/

jmkelly2166 · 07/01/2016, 11:27 AM

Fish tank kings in my opinion was much better!

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C.Eymann · 07/01/2016, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by karimwassef

US scientists and biologists say it right. I heard it on NPR yesterday : A-crop-ora

Ill trust Dr. Veron and Eric Borneman's pronunciations of Latin names more than NPR radio.

When I said 98% of Americans, I was including some biologists and scientists as well.

postshawn · 07/01/2016, 01:18 PM

I work in TV and I can tell you 99% of the reality shows are "produced". They don't usually have a script per-say but they have producers coaching them on what to do and say a lot of the time. They'll give them a general idea of what they want and have them do a scene. Then if the producer wants something specific done or said they'll tell them that and they'll do another take or just an insert. This is a generalization on most of the reality shows like this. It's all made for entertainment.

I've worked on similar shows to this, a lot of car build shows and it's the same thing. Sure they are building a car for a customer but the producers amp up why the customer wants the car or that a mechanic has a hard time with something or that someone stole some other guy's lunch or whatever. It's all made for entertainment purposes. It just helps if the people (actors) are actual people in the world of what they are portraying. Also in general reality shows are cheaper them scripted shows. So if the production pays for the cost of a build and tear down it's still a lot cheaper then paying for the cost of actual actors and the higher production value that goes with scripted shows. In the end the network who pays for it all still makes a lot of money on a show like Tanked after paying for builds and tear downs.

joshky · 07/01/2016, 01:41 PM

From "Aquarium Corals" by Eric H. Borneman page 221:
(ah-crop'-or-ah OR ak'-roh-pohr'-ah)

Interestingly enough, I think no one is wrong? Case closed?

CHSUB · 07/01/2016, 02:37 PM

show stinks, tanks stink, one girl is "hot"; however, i wouldn't let those two dummies water my lawn...imo!!!

C.Eymann · 07/01/2016, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by joshky

From "Aquarium Corals" by Eric H. Borneman page 221:
(ah-crop'-or-ah OR ak'-roh-pohr'-ah)

Interestingly enough, I think no one is wrong? Case closed?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3_4pn78ZFX0

Eric borneman correctly pronouncing acropora
Fast forward to 44.40

C.Eymann · 07/01/2016, 04:11 PM

I always got weird looks when I worked at a LFS when correctly pronouncing corals Latin names, but even though it's not the "norm", stylophora, goniopora montipora are all pronounced this way. I'll try to dig up the Charlie Veron interview but that was on vimeo I think.

I used to say them incorrectly as well, all it took was a phone convo with Gavin at Pacific aqua farms to realize "the norm" way these corals are pronounced is actually incorrect.

joshky · 07/01/2016, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by C.Eymann

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3_4pn78ZFX0

Eric borneman correctly pronouncing acropora
Fast forward to 44.40

Yes, that's how he chooses to pronounce it. From his book Aquarium Corals he says it can be either or.

(ah-crop'-or-ah OR ak'-roh-pohr'-ah)

C.Eymann · 07/01/2016, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by joshky

Yes, that's how he chooses to pronounce it. From his book Aquarium Corals he says it can be either or.

(ah-crop'-or-ah OR ak'-roh-pohr'-ah)

I agree nobody is wrong here, but considering Charlie Veron says it this way as well, and let's face it he is the godfather of coral classification, I "choose" to believe it is the correct way to pronounce it/them.

joshky · 07/01/2016, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by C.Eymann

I agree nobody is wrong here, but considering Charlie Veron says it this way as well, and let's face it he is the godfather of coral classification, I "choose" to believe it is the correct way to pronounce it/them.

Nothing wrong with that, it would be interesting to take some Latin classes to understand pronunciation better.

ComforablyNumb · 07/01/2016, 04:53 PM

What bugs me about many of these "reality" shows is the fake drama they insert. Smithsonian Channel's "Mighty Ships" is a good example. They follow various ships during routine voyages and are always trying to artificially amp up the drama. Drama that isn't really there. Its often routine maintenance that is made into some kind of crisis. "The entire voyage will be a complete failure and puts the whole ship's crew at risk if the mechanics don't get this valve fixed by 5 pm!1!!" The valve always gets fixed.

Socaltoaz · 07/01/2016, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by ComforablyNumb

What bugs me about many of these "reality" shows is the fake drama they insert. Smithsonian Channel's "Mighty Ships" is a good example. They follow various ships during routine voyages and are always trying to artificially amp up the drama. Drama that isn't really there. Its often routine maintenance that is made into some kind of crisis. "The entire voyage will be a complete failure and puts the whole ship's crew at risk if the mechanics don't get this valve fixed by 5 pm!1!!" The valve always gets fixed.

Yeah but it makes you watch the show.

There is the same drama on tanked. At the end of the day, I'm sure some tanks for the show stay. But many are done just for the filming.

Wade is supposedly building a house in Vegas with the worlds largest private aquarium. Maybe they will have a show on it in the future.

How I got hooked up with them was I actually reached out and wanted to know if hey wanted to use my house as part of the show. You can see my build thread in my signature. They actually responded but by then the show focus had shifted to celebrities and I in the end decided I did t want my family and home paraded around on tv.

I stuck with them for he tank build and am very happy with the tank but the show is the show. Most of it is made up and take, including many of the themes they make.

sixpackgarage · 07/01/2016, 10:32 PM

The show is what it has to be.. I think it's entertainment and nothing more. Does it represent reefing? Of course it doesn't. Does it show how big projects are executed under a tight timeline? I think it does. My wife got us tickets last year for the tour and I must say I enjoyed it. Quite a few actual reef tanks in the employees cubicles. The guys were extremely friendly considering how many tourists they must deal with on a daily basis. I love the fact that they turned a passion into a thriving business.

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starkii · 07/04/2016, 06:45 AM

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Originally Posted by C.Eymann

Fish tank kings is another bag of weasles, their "expert" incorrectly pronounces the Latin names.

Probably small potatoes, but it gets under my skin, it's " ak-crop-rah" not "ak-roe-po-rah"

Surely if your being picky that should be scientific names as the route of the word acro is Greek

karimwassef · 07/04/2016, 10:59 AM

http://howjsay.com/pronunciation-of-acropora#

marinelife · 07/05/2016, 09:25 PM

The SmileMore tank from Friday's show is still up and running. You can see it in many of his videos.

07/01/2016, 06:32 AM	#51
C.Eymann Cnidaria lover Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Winterpark FL Posts: 1,483	Fish tank kings is another bag of weasles, their "expert" incorrectly pronounces the Latin names. Probably small potatoes, but it gets under my skin, it's " ak-crop-rah" not "ak-roe-po-rah" __________________ "I glue animals to rocks" Current Tank Info: 80gal build in the works

07/01/2016, 06:58 AM	#54
kmbyrnes Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Mesa AZ Posts: 2,055	Haven't been to the Vegas location in a couple of years. When we went, my wife and I were greeted by 'the General' and he led us on a tour of the facility. Professional outfit, despite the 'unreality' of the show. On our way out we met Wade and Brett, who are definitely better off camera than on. I would have a beer with them. They seemed to be enjoying their 15 minutes of fame. Seems you now need to get tix for a tour and they have become like Pawn Stars. But I still like the show for the fish buying trips. Gotta become better friends with my LFS ownerrs and get inside Sea Dwelling Creatures __________________ 125g Mixed Reef 5/26/2015; 350 Butterfly Dominated FOWLR 11/26/2015 - 11/17/20217 & 07/31/18 to ??? ; 100g Mixed Reef 11/16/2013 to 06/16/2017 Current Tank Info: Too small

07/01/2016, 10:30 AM	#56
karimwassef Registered Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 11,033	US scientists and biologists say it right. I heard it on NPR yesterday : A-crop-ora __________________ Failure isn't an option It's a requirement. 660g 380inwall+280smp/surge S/L/Soft/Maxima/RBTA/Clown/Chromis/Anthias/Tang/Mandarin/Jawfish/Goby/Wrasse/D'back. DIY 12' Skimmer ActuatedSurge ConcreteScape

07/01/2016, 10:40 AM	#57
Socaltoaz Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 1,128	They built my tank. Tank quality is solid. I got a quote from them to do my filtration. It was bio balls and stuff. No skimmer. I did filtration on my own. The tank is 96x48x40. Cost was about 15k. Have to check the exact amount. The stand is steel- about 2500 I think. They screwed up the stand and had to remake it. Nice guys and I would probably buy from them again. I visited a couple of times and met Frankie and wade. But once they found out I wasn't doing the filtration and install with them, attitude changed and not as nice. Regardless- they are knowledgable and out of all the outfits I tried to get in touch with to build my roughly 1000 gallon system, they were the most responsive and professional. They had their **** together whereas I kept getting the run around from other people I contacted. Overall a decent experience. From what I could gather- what they do on the show is nothing what they promote in real life. The tanks they build for the show are just that- show. They get installed and get taken down. I saw the Pete Rose tank, Dwayne wade tank and a bunch others in their facility. Apparantly Pete Roses wife wouldn't let them in the house. They did the install in the backyard. Filmed the show and tore it all down. __________________ Please allow me to humbly share my build thread. Over 2.5 years of planning and construction of our dream home and dream tank. http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2477486

07/01/2016, 10:55 AM	#58
karimwassef Registered Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 11,033	Awww.. Really? That's so sad. Why tear it down?? Who gets it afterwards? Some of those custom installs are massive. I can't imagine that the cost of tearing those down would be economically viable vs. leaving them up and taking the loss - either as cost of advertising, donation, or just a plain tax write-off. __________________ Failure isn't an option It's a requirement. 660g 380inwall+280smp/surge S/L/Soft/Maxima/RBTA/Clown/Chromis/Anthias/Tang/Mandarin/Jawfish/Goby/Wrasse/D'back. DIY 12' Skimmer ActuatedSurge ConcreteScape

07/01/2016, 11:15 AM	#59
sde1500 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: Glocester, RI Posts: 3,336	They probably get paid more per episode than they spend on those tanks. Something similar to fishing fleets on the show Deadliest Catch. They actually make enough money being featured on the show, that the fishing is almost for show. They undercut the price and screw up the whole market. But, the tv money more than makes up for it. Wouldn't be surprised if this were the same situation. Who cares if you have to build and tear down a 50k tank if Animal planet pays them 100k to do it? http://www.adn.com/commentary/articl...me/2014/03/17/ __________________ My build thread: http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2548422 Current Tank Info: 65 gallon mixed reef, Eshopps sump and HOB overflow, RO-110int skimmer, Reefbreeder 32" photons V1.

07/01/2016, 11:27 AM	#60
jmkelly2166 Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2016 Posts: 65	Fish tank kings in my opinion was much better! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

07/01/2016, 01:18 PM	#62
postshawn Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Los Angeles (SF Valley), CA Posts: 180	I work in TV and I can tell you 99% of the reality shows are "produced". They don't usually have a script per-say but they have producers coaching them on what to do and say a lot of the time. They'll give them a general idea of what they want and have them do a scene. Then if the producer wants something specific done or said they'll tell them that and they'll do another take or just an insert. This is a generalization on most of the reality shows like this. It's all made for entertainment. I've worked on similar shows to this, a lot of car build shows and it's the same thing. Sure they are building a car for a customer but the producers amp up why the customer wants the car or that a mechanic has a hard time with something or that someone stole some other guy's lunch or whatever. It's all made for entertainment purposes. It just helps if the people (actors) are actual people in the world of what they are portraying. Also in general reality shows are cheaper them scripted shows. So if the production pays for the cost of a build and tear down it's still a lot cheaper then paying for the cost of actual actors and the higher production value that goes with scripted shows. In the end the network who pays for it all still makes a lot of money on a show like Tanked after paying for builds and tear downs.

07/01/2016, 01:41 PM	#63
joshky Acros & Wrasses Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Central KY Posts: 2,546	From "Aquarium Corals" by Eric H. Borneman page 221: (ah-crop'-or-ah OR ak'-roh-pohr'-ah) Interestingly enough, I think no one is wrong? Case closed? __________________ Josh My 80g: http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2677031

07/01/2016, 02:37 PM	#64
CHSUB "Certified Hobby Expert" Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Miami, Fl Posts: 2,038	show stinks, tanks stink, one girl is "hot"; however, i wouldn't let those two dummies water my lawn...imo!!! __________________ Goniopora Police _________________ building a 60"x36"x30" peninsula reef...follow at "NEW TANK BUILD" on reef discussion forum! http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2110638

07/01/2016, 04:11 PM	#66
C.Eymann Cnidaria lover Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Winterpark FL Posts: 1,483	I always got weird looks when I worked at a LFS when correctly pronouncing corals Latin names, but even though it's not the "norm", stylophora, goniopora montipora are all pronounced this way. I'll try to dig up the Charlie Veron interview but that was on vimeo I think. I used to say them incorrectly as well, all it took was a phone convo with Gavin at Pacific aqua farms to realize "the norm" way these corals are pronounced is actually incorrect. __________________ "I glue animals to rocks" Current Tank Info: 80gal build in the works

07/01/2016, 04:53 PM	#70
ComforablyNumb Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: New Brunswick Canada Posts: 627	What bugs me about many of these "reality" shows is the fake drama they insert. Smithsonian Channel's "Mighty Ships" is a good example. They follow various ships during routine voyages and are always trying to artificially amp up the drama. Drama that isn't really there. Its often routine maintenance that is made into some kind of crisis. "The entire voyage will be a complete failure and puts the whole ship's crew at risk if the mechanics don't get this valve fixed by 5 pm!1!!" The valve always gets fixed. Last edited by ComforablyNumb; 07/01/2016 at 05:04 PM.

07/01/2016, 10:32 PM	#72
sixpackgarage reef mechanic Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 819	Is Tanked (TV show) getting a little better? The show is what it has to be.. I think it's entertainment and nothing more. Does it represent reefing? Of course it doesn't. Does it show how big projects are executed under a tight timeline? I think it does. My wife got us tickets last year for the tour and I must say I enjoyed it. Quite a few actual reef tanks in the employees cubicles. The guys were extremely friendly considering how many tourists they must deal with on a daily basis. I love the fact that they turned a passion into a thriving business. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk __________________ my build: http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2512689 my fuge thread: http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2523500 Current Tank Info: DSA NEO 65G reef powered by Kessil

07/04/2016, 10:59 AM	#74
karimwassef Registered Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 11,033	http://howjsay.com/pronunciation-of-acropora# __________________ Failure isn't an option It's a requirement. 660g 380inwall+280smp/surge S/L/Soft/Maxima/RBTA/Clown/Chromis/Anthias/Tang/Mandarin/Jawfish/Goby/Wrasse/D'back. DIY 12' Skimmer ActuatedSurge ConcreteScape

07/05/2016, 09:25 PM	#75
marinelife Registered Member Join Date: May 2000 Location: Union, Ohio, USA Posts: 6,590	The SmileMore tank from Friday's show is still up and running. You can see it in many of his videos. __________________ I'm a SaltGeek are You? All LED since 2010. Current Tank Info: 375 Gallon Reef with siporax, all LED lighting, and Red Dragon 3 and Abyzz A200 on 2 closed loops.