cattleman's DIY drilling for 29 gallon and sump - Page 3

SpinyLobster · 04/15/2006, 12:17 AM

Don't know if this will be of any help to you but I drilled my 29 AG in the back corner(everything I read online says the bottom is tempered) with a corner overflow box measuring 5" x 4". I used a 1" bulkhead with a 90 degree elbow inside the overflow box to cut down on gurgling. My sump is a 10 gallon aquarium with baffles and as a return pump I use a Quiet One 3000(780 gph) that's connected to two 3/4" drilled bulkheads running back into the tank.

I run the pump wide open but I have to make sure that my water level stays at a certain level in my sump. If it drops down just a small amount the pump pushes thousands of micro bubbles into the main tank.

cherubfish pair · 04/15/2006, 09:42 PM

wooo whooo!! third page, 50 replies, and 1,000+ views!!!

cherubfish pair · 04/16/2006, 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by the cattleman
I found the crack in my sump tonight. It was right on a seam. I reinforced all seams with weld-on #16. Should have my 29G going by Sunday. This is not the tank I'm going to drill. The tank I'm going to drill will replace it.

Installed my 150 watt pendants and temp went up to 82.4. This is with out the heat of the return pump, skimmer pump, refugium pump, and sea-swirl. With all this heat I'll have to get a chiller. Probably an IceProbe. Water streaming from the sump drip plate (no bio-balls), might cool the water some.

For now I'll just run my 75 watt VHO for lights.

cherubfish pair · 04/18/2006, 03:32 PM

Anyone have one of cpr's CR series sumps? I was wondering how well the 'drain from tank into the lid of the sump thing' works.

Benny Z · 04/19/2006, 06:29 AM

here are pics of my new drilled 29g w/ internal overflow, diy sump, etc...

http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/sh...hreadid=827279

cherubfish pair · 04/20/2006, 09:37 PM

Benny, what is an 'aquarium specific check valve'?

BTW, very nice setup.

cherubfish pair · 04/21/2006, 07:27 PM

Does anyone know of a media pad that will absorb nitrates?

cherubfish pair · 04/21/2006, 07:52 PM

I got an email from esuweb and they say that the css65 will fit in the cpr cr500.

cherubfish pair · 04/22/2006, 05:08 PM

quote:Originally posted by ctsieber:
"external pumps should have something between them and the stand to absorb vibrations. I use extra large rubber feet bettween the pump and a peice of wood and sit it in the stand."

These pumps are connected to the tank/sump with hoses and clamps also note the pan world pump has a built-in fan.

http://members.cox.net/bohdar/pumps/iwaki_setup.jpg

cherubfish pair · 04/22/2006, 08:38 PM

here's a link to a picture, here goes:

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j2...3/ae21c728.jpg

cherubfish pair · 04/22/2006, 08:49 PM

The link worked and now you kind of see my fishroom (on 4/22/06.) I was standing on a chair.

That's a 29 gallon tank.

cherubfish pair · 04/24/2006, 09:17 PM

Now that I'm putting my 29 back together I need to redo my Current Tanks:

cherubfish pair · 04/25/2006, 09:46 PM

Check out my new Current Tanks:

cherubfish pair · 04/26/2006, 10:07 PM

Just ran across this site for diamond glass drill bits. Free shipping!

www.gordonglassusa.com

cherubfish pair · 04/27/2006, 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ctsieber
how do you want to connect it to your sump? drill a hole in the sump, put a bulk head on it, and run a line into the external pump. Make your you put a valve on it so you can throttle back the pump if need be. if it was me i would just use a mag for the return pump.

I need the shortest connection from pump to sump, so: pvc or hose?

cherubfish pair · 04/28/2006, 09:38 PM

My temp has been running around 81.4 with the MHs on. I won't know how much draw down I need when everything else is plugged in but I'm already looking at an IceProbe.

cherubfish pair · 04/29/2006, 09:53 PM

Don't know where I would mount an IceProbe. Right into an aquarium glass bulkhead or acrylic sump bulkhead.

smp · 04/29/2006, 11:36 PM

FWIW

cherubfish pair · 04/30/2006, 09:55 PM

When I switch to the drilled tank (not the one I'm using now), I'll put the IceProbe on the tank in case of a situation where I can't use my sump. And in case of a situation where I can't use the new sump, I'll switch with the old sump for the time being. So if the IceProbe is on the new tank, it can't be switched to the old sump.

Looks like I'll have to drill the old tank for an IceProbe if I'm going to use one for now and then.

cherubfish pair · 05/02/2006, 10:35 PM

Christian at wetdryfilter.com told me the best thing to use for drilling acrylic is an ordinary wood hole saw, but just don't let the thing get too hot or it will melt the plastic.

cherubfish pair · 05/03/2006, 10:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by the cattleman
..........it might seem like I'm beating these issues to death, but when I first started I didn't use these boards and ran up a credit card with stuff I don't need and now I'm forced to sell a bunch of stuff. I just want to make the right decisions now and besides I like this socializing anyway................

cherubfish pair · 05/06/2006, 06:45 PM

Well, spring semester is over and it's now time to start devoting more time to the reef. I'll be posting pix too.

cherubfish pair · 05/09/2006, 08:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by the cattleman
Now that I'm putting my 29 back together I need to redo my Current Tanks:

I'll be getting some moola from a moola so I'm emptying my 29 so that I can drill it.

cherubfish pair · 05/11/2006, 10:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by the cattleman
These pumps are connected to the tank/sump with hoses and clamps also note the pan world pump has a built-in fan.

http://members.cox.net/bohdar/pumps/iwaki_setup.jpg

The smallest of these pumps, which is about 500 +or- gph, dosen't have a built-in fan.

cherubfish pair · 05/11/2006, 10:39 PM

I'm going to search through my dad's barn this weekend and see if I can find some of the hole saws he says are in there.

04/15/2006, 09:42 PM	#52
cherubfish pair Registered Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Libby, Montana Posts: 7,061 Blog Entries: 1	wooo whooo!! third page, 50 replies, and 1,000+ views!!! __________________ pairo chero Thanks for looking at my build thread and subscribe to it if you already haven't yet! Current Tank Info: thirty rimless

04/18/2006, 03:32 PM	#54
cherubfish pair Registered Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Libby, Montana Posts: 7,061 Blog Entries: 1	Anyone have one of cpr's CR series sumps? I was wondering how well the 'drain from tank into the lid of the sump thing' works. __________________ pairo chero Thanks for looking at my build thread and subscribe to it if you already haven't yet! Current Tank Info: thirty rimless

04/20/2006, 09:37 PM	#56
cherubfish pair Registered Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Libby, Montana Posts: 7,061 Blog Entries: 1	Benny, what is an 'aquarium specific check valve'? BTW, very nice setup. __________________ pairo chero Thanks for looking at my build thread and subscribe to it if you already haven't yet! Current Tank Info: thirty rimless

04/21/2006, 07:27 PM	#57
cherubfish pair Registered Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Libby, Montana Posts: 7,061 Blog Entries: 1	Does anyone know of a media pad that will absorb nitrates? __________________ pairo chero Thanks for looking at my build thread and subscribe to it if you already haven't yet! Current Tank Info: thirty rimless

04/21/2006, 07:52 PM	#58
cherubfish pair Registered Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Libby, Montana Posts: 7,061 Blog Entries: 1	I got an email from esuweb and they say that the css65 will fit in the cpr cr500. __________________ pairo chero Thanks for looking at my build thread and subscribe to it if you already haven't yet! Current Tank Info: thirty rimless

04/15/2006, 12:17 AM	#51
SpinyLobster Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: WA Posts: 14	Don't know if this will be of any help to you but I drilled my 29 AG in the back corner(everything I read online says the bottom is tempered) with a corner overflow box measuring 5" x 4". I used a 1" bulkhead with a 90 degree elbow inside the overflow box to cut down on gurgling. My sump is a 10 gallon aquarium with baffles and as a return pump I use a Quiet One 3000(780 gph) that's connected to two 3/4" drilled bulkheads running back into the tank. I run the pump wide open but I have to make sure that my water level stays at a certain level in my sump. If it drops down just a small amount the pump pushes thousands of micro bubbles into the main tank.

04/19/2006, 06:29 AM	#55
Benny Z Moved On Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: bloomington, il Posts: 2,246	here are pics of my new drilled 29g w/ internal overflow, diy sump, etc... http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/sh...hreadid=827279

04/22/2006, 05:08 PM	#59
cherubfish pair Registered Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Libby, Montana Posts: 7,061 Blog Entries: 1	quote:Originally posted by ctsieber: "external pumps should have something between them and the stand to absorb vibrations. I use extra large rubber feet bettween the pump and a peice of wood and sit it in the stand." These pumps are connected to the tank/sump with hoses and clamps also note the pan world pump has a built-in fan. http://members.cox.net/bohdar/pumps/iwaki_setup.jpg __________________ pairo chero Thanks for looking at my build thread and subscribe to it if you already haven't yet! Current Tank Info: thirty rimless

04/22/2006, 08:38 PM	#60
cherubfish pair Registered Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Libby, Montana Posts: 7,061 Blog Entries: 1	here's a link to a picture, here goes: http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j2...3/ae21c728.jpg __________________ pairo chero Thanks for looking at my build thread and subscribe to it if you already haven't yet! Current Tank Info: thirty rimless

04/22/2006, 08:49 PM	#61
cherubfish pair Registered Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Libby, Montana Posts: 7,061 Blog Entries: 1	The link worked and now you kind of see my fishroom (on 4/22/06.) I was standing on a chair. That's a 29 gallon tank. __________________ pairo chero Thanks for looking at my build thread and subscribe to it if you already haven't yet! Current Tank Info: thirty rimless

04/24/2006, 09:17 PM	#62
cherubfish pair Registered Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Libby, Montana Posts: 7,061 Blog Entries: 1	Now that I'm putting my 29 back together I need to redo my Current Tanks: __________________ pairo chero Thanks for looking at my build thread and subscribe to it if you already haven't yet! Current Tank Info: thirty rimless

04/25/2006, 09:46 PM	#63
cherubfish pair Registered Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Libby, Montana Posts: 7,061 Blog Entries: 1	Check out my new Current Tanks: __________________ pairo chero Thanks for looking at my build thread and subscribe to it if you already haven't yet! Current Tank Info: thirty rimless

04/26/2006, 10:07 PM	#64
cherubfish pair Registered Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Libby, Montana Posts: 7,061 Blog Entries: 1	Just ran across this site for diamond glass drill bits. Free shipping! www.gordonglassusa.com __________________ pairo chero Thanks for looking at my build thread and subscribe to it if you already haven't yet! Current Tank Info: thirty rimless

04/28/2006, 09:38 PM	#66
cherubfish pair Registered Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Libby, Montana Posts: 7,061 Blog Entries: 1	My temp has been running around 81.4 with the MHs on. I won't know how much draw down I need when everything else is plugged in but I'm already looking at an IceProbe. __________________ pairo chero Thanks for looking at my build thread and subscribe to it if you already haven't yet! Current Tank Info: thirty rimless

04/29/2006, 09:53 PM	#67
cherubfish pair Registered Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Libby, Montana Posts: 7,061 Blog Entries: 1	Don't know where I would mount an IceProbe. Right into an aquarium glass bulkhead or acrylic sump bulkhead. __________________ pairo chero Thanks for looking at my build thread and subscribe to it if you already haven't yet! Current Tank Info: thirty rimless

04/29/2006, 11:36 PM	#68
smp Registered Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Toronto, ON Posts: 574	FWIW __________________ K.I.S.S Current Tank Info: 90 Gallon reef, 2 x 250 Pheonix 14k on icecaps, 2 x Aquascience 17.5 on workhorse, ER RS-135, Tunze ATO Kalk bucket, 30 Gallon sump, MRC CR1 reactor, 2 x phosban reactor (Rowa, Carbon), 2 x MJ Mod, mixed reef

04/30/2006, 09:55 PM	#69
cherubfish pair Registered Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Libby, Montana Posts: 7,061 Blog Entries: 1	When I switch to the drilled tank (not the one I'm using now), I'll put the IceProbe on the tank in case of a situation where I can't use my sump. And in case of a situation where I can't use the new sump, I'll switch with the old sump for the time being. So if the IceProbe is on the new tank, it can't be switched to the old sump. Looks like I'll have to drill the old tank for an IceProbe if I'm going to use one for now and then. __________________ pairo chero Thanks for looking at my build thread and subscribe to it if you already haven't yet! Current Tank Info: thirty rimless

05/02/2006, 10:35 PM	#70
cherubfish pair Registered Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Libby, Montana Posts: 7,061 Blog Entries: 1	Christian at wetdryfilter.com told me the best thing to use for drilling acrylic is an ordinary wood hole saw, but just don't let the thing get too hot or it will melt the plastic. __________________ pairo chero Thanks for looking at my build thread and subscribe to it if you already haven't yet! Current Tank Info: thirty rimless

05/06/2006, 06:45 PM	#72
cherubfish pair Registered Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Libby, Montana Posts: 7,061 Blog Entries: 1	Well, spring semester is over and it's now time to start devoting more time to the reef. I'll be posting pix too. __________________ pairo chero Thanks for looking at my build thread and subscribe to it if you already haven't yet! Current Tank Info: thirty rimless

05/11/2006, 10:39 PM	#75
cherubfish pair Registered Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Libby, Montana Posts: 7,061 Blog Entries: 1	I'm going to search through my dad's barn this weekend and see if I can find some of the hole saws he says are in there. __________________ pairo chero Thanks for looking at my build thread and subscribe to it if you already haven't yet! Current Tank Info: thirty rimless