Melev's new 280g Starfire tank thread - Page 3

melev · 03/29/2006, 03:29 PM

Gallandro - if you are referring to my site, that was a few years back when my appendix ruptured within me and I didn't know for 5 days. I ended up with peritonitis, and wasn't able to do anything for the first month, and then after two months was finally able to start going back to work.

That would have been a great time to own a laptop, as I was stuck in bed for a long time. There are some threads about it here on RC, buried in the archives. Here's one: http://reefcentral.com/forums/showth...light=appendix

Gallandro · 03/29/2006, 03:31 PM

Sugar .. sorry to hear it. glad you got well.

Electrobes · 03/29/2006, 08:43 PM

Hey Marc ( and everyone too

) out of curiosity have you've ever tried Purigen? I have been and am currently running carbon (Marineland Black Diamond) for a couple of years (as of two weeks I am using a phosban reactor with it) and I have to admit that my water has always looked great because of it (IMO).

As of late I have been looking into other filter medias when people started threads asking about opinions on them (at random). It was first started with the whole carbon chart, then later with someone asking about "Hydrocarbon", and in the end with Purigen. In a line up I would choose to go with Black Diamond (from experience) or Purigen (Based solely on reviews).

I see Randy's point about the topic and am more apt to stick with carbon, but would like to hear more views on the matter. What's your (all of you) opinion?

gkarshens · 03/29/2006, 08:56 PM

I have been using Hydrocarbon and Purigen for the last 2 months and my water has never been clearer.

richfavinger · 03/29/2006, 10:33 PM

I've been using Kent Reef Carbon for years, but am apt to try Black Diamond and Purigen as well, so please... Tell me (us) what you think?

WILDTHING · 03/29/2006, 10:38 PM

Marc, what happened to the pics from the first few pages after the split?

colleen

bheron · 03/29/2006, 10:50 PM

WOw, just read that whol Appendix thread! Crazy stuff. I had my appendix out in 1994. mine was taken out right before it burst and the before and after was one of the worst pains Ive ever felt! I dont know how you managed to go a week with it. I lasted less than 24 hrs before hitting the emergency room. And i was told if it had burst i woulve been in a world of trouble. I guess you were! Took me 2 weeks just to walk from the incision alone!

jake2045 · 03/29/2006, 11:40 PM

Had my appendix remove when I was 9,( all most burst.Doc said it popped just as he placed it in the dish) friend of the family told me a story on how he would stand on his IV pole and skoot around the halls. Well at 9 there was no way I was going to pee in the plastic container, so I started down the hall way.It had only been 2 hours after the surgery. I made it to the bath room and half way back, when I opened my eyes to see my mother loosing it on a couple of nurses.I thought she was going to kill me!!!!amd the family freind.Need less to say I survived! However the next couple of weeks where hard.I still must have been jacked up on the meds when I went for the ride to the bathroom.

richfavinger · 03/30/2006, 12:02 AM

For a second there I thought you where going to say on your trip to the bathroom down the hall, you forgot you where in a hospital gown, with open air access to the back-side.

And you where unknowingly showing all the nurses your "Bare Bottom"...

Buy hey, when you got to go, YOU GOT TO GO!

robwsup · 03/30/2006, 08:37 AM

I got my appendix pulled in 1996, in the Navy, on the Enterprise, in the Persian Gulf. Sucked. The infirmary had no AC, and all the Navy would give for pain was Ibuprofen.

lovetoreef · 03/30/2006, 10:27 AM

well, i had mine out 2 summers ago - they were able to scope me with 3 small holes - made recovery pretty easy - so, things have gotten better

melev · 03/30/2006, 12:00 PM

I thought Jake was going to say he started peeing way before he got to the bathroom.

I did a 55g water change two days ago, so I began dosing today. I'm going to hold off on ReefBooster for at least two weeks.

New schedule:

Gallandro · 03/30/2006, 12:03 PM

Melev, up for a sump pump question ?

melev · 03/30/2006, 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by WILDTHING
Marc, what happened to the pics from the first few pages after the split?

colleen

They are there now, as I just checked.

Regarding Purigen: I've never used it, nor felt the need to. I'm noticing a trend with some reef keepers in that they want the water to be crystal clear. My thinking is that it is great to have clean water to view your reeflings, but perhaps crystal clear is taking it a bit too far. Many corals eat particulates, and stuff floating about in plankton-size should be beneficial.

I used to never do water changes, years ago. The water quality looked good testkit-wise and the livestock looked happy. However, the water was a tad off-colored, usually leaning in the green / yellow coloration. If you have two white buckets, drain 5g into one and fill the other bucket with newly aged saltwater (mixed 24 hours minimum) to compare. If they look about the same, the water is good. If the used water looks darker or dirty, odds are you need to do a water change.

Water changes seem to take care of most situations. Running carbon can be beneficial to remove chemical warfare and general stuff exuding out of soft corals and especially mushrooms. I found this article to be very practical: http://www.pets-warehouse.com/carbon.htm

None of my tanks use sponges, pads, filter socks, or products like Purigen or ChemiPure. Running carbon on my big reef has been a good option, but I don't run it on the other tanks.

Hint: If you want your tank to look really good, clean the inside regularly, and the outside with water and paper towels. You'd be amazed how good it looks just having a clean viewing panel.

melev · 03/30/2006, 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Gallandro
Melev, up for a sump pump question ?

Sure. What's the question?

Gallandro · 03/30/2006, 12:21 PM

Completed all the Acrylic cuts for my nano sump, but puzzling over which put to get. I normally default to Eheim, but the larger Universal range is physically to large, and the small compact pumps I dont think are powerfull enough (150lph-1000lph 2.0m 23)
I fancey trying the Newjet pumps specs below, but whch ?
NeW-Jet 400 120 - 400lph
NeW-Jet 600 200 - 600lph
NeW-Jet 800 300 - 800lph 2.0mtr
NeW-Jet 1200 400 - 1200lph
NeW-Jet 2300 1200 - 2300lph
NeW-Jet 3000 1500 - 3000lph

Pump will have to pump up 1mtr .. Tank holds 15 gallons

Gallandro · 03/30/2006, 12:38 PM

15 uk gals is about 65ltrs, all pumps say a max hight of 2mtrs, so I guess thats there min flow rating. Assuming an even curve and a turnover fo 4 - 5 times an hour (325ltrs). the smaller pumps may do the job.

DerekW · 03/30/2006, 12:53 PM

Was that a question?

:P

Gallandro · 03/30/2006, 12:58 PM

yes but no but ... I think so ?!

melev · 03/30/2006, 01:05 PM

More like open to discussion.

2 meters is 6 feet for us, roughly speaking. You don't have to push water up more than 4', correct? Sounds like the smallest one will do the job. What I would suggest is you get one, and find out for yourself. If you like it, get a second one as a backup pump. Never leave your system unprotected, not having a backup pump available. When you need it, you can't wait a couple of days or a week for it to arrive.

Gallandro · 03/30/2006, 01:10 PM

Ye 4' ;-) get one and find out for myself ? I was looking for a bit of guidence so I dont waste money. I guesed on a smaller one. Ill get one slightly bigger than the numbers say, I can always turn it down. thanks.

Gallandro · 03/30/2006, 01:11 PM

.. and yes, I to live by the rule of two.

Qwiv · 03/30/2006, 01:14 PM

Second Marks recomendation on a back-up. Around here, a replacement pump will cost you an arm and a leg at the LFS. A ViaAqua that is $27 at MarineDepot is $127. Don't even ask about a good pump like a eheim or mag, etc.

If you have a closed loop however, you might be able to risk it, as the tank should survive fine with just the CL going.

Gallandro · 03/30/2006, 01:16 PM

Oooo my engineer brain is going now doing overtime. How about two pumps both connected with a flow sensor on the first. If it fails, the second automatically kicks in .. hmm nice.

Gallandro · 03/30/2006, 01:18 PM

I'm going withthe largest Ehieim Compact. well two of. 16 euros in Germany. plenty or scope for two there.

03/29/2006, 08:43 PM	#53
Electrobes Montipora type guy Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Fort Myers, FL Posts: 2,945	Hey Marc ( and everyone too ) out of curiosity have you've ever tried Purigen? I have been and am currently running carbon (Marineland Black Diamond) for a couple of years (as of two weeks I am using a phosban reactor with it) and I have to admit that my water has always looked great because of it (IMO). As of late I have been looking into other filter medias when people started threads asking about opinions on them (at random). It was first started with the whole carbon chart, then later with someone asking about "Hydrocarbon", and in the end with Purigen. In a line up I would choose to go with Black Diamond (from experience) or Purigen (Based solely on reviews). I see Randy's point about the topic and am more apt to stick with carbon, but would like to hear more views on the matter. What's your (all of you) opinion? __________________ Christian Current Tank Info: 100G Half Cylinder

03/29/2006, 08:56 PM	#54
gkarshens Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Corona, CA Posts: 2,382	I have been using Hydrocarbon and Purigen for the last 2 months and my water has never been clearer. __________________ Gabriel It's about time!

03/29/2006, 10:33 PM	#55
richfavinger Premium Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Pottstown, PA Posts: 866	I've been using Kent Reef Carbon for years, but am apt to try Black Diamond and Purigen as well, so please... Tell me (us) what you think? __________________ Rich Current Tank Info: DSA 135g (48x24x27) Starphire, Elite Aquatics M2 Sump, Reef Octopus Diablo DCS200-INT, GEO 612 Calcium Reactor + AP Carbon Doser, 2x Radion Pro Gen2, 2x VorTech MP40

03/29/2006, 10:50 PM	#57
bheron Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Valley Forge, PA Posts: 2,655	WOw, just read that whol Appendix thread! Crazy stuff. I had my appendix out in 1994. mine was taken out right before it burst and the before and after was one of the worst pains Ive ever felt! I dont know how you managed to go a week with it. I lasted less than 24 hrs before hitting the emergency room. And i was told if it had burst i woulve been in a world of trouble. I guess you were! Took me 2 weeks just to walk from the incision alone! __________________ Bryan Current Tank Info: 220 since Nov 2005

03/29/2006, 11:40 PM	#58
jake2045 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Virginia Beach Posts: 848	Had my appendix remove when I was 9,( all most burst.Doc said it popped just as he placed it in the dish) friend of the family told me a story on how he would stand on his IV pole and skoot around the halls. Well at 9 there was no way I was going to pee in the plastic container, so I started down the hall way.It had only been 2 hours after the surgery. I made it to the bath room and half way back, when I opened my eyes to see my mother loosing it on a couple of nurses.I thought she was going to kill me!!!!amd the family freind.Need less to say I survived! However the next couple of weeks where hard.I still must have been jacked up on the meds when I went for the ride to the bathroom. __________________ "He is your friend, your partner, your defender, your dog. He will be yours, faithful and true, to the last beat of his heart. You owe it to him to be worthy of such devotion" Current Tank Info: 75 gallon glass box filled with money

03/29/2006, 03:29 PM	#51
melev Moved On Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Ft Worth, Tx Posts: 43,217	Gallandro - if you are referring to my site, that was a few years back when my appendix ruptured within me and I didn't know for 5 days. I ended up with peritonitis, and wasn't able to do anything for the first month, and then after two months was finally able to start going back to work. That would have been a great time to own a laptop, as I was stuck in bed for a long time. There are some threads about it here on RC, buried in the archives. Here's one: http://reefcentral.com/forums/showth...light=appendix

03/29/2006, 03:31 PM	#52
Gallandro Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: UK Posts: 148	Sugar .. sorry to hear it. glad you got well.

03/29/2006, 10:38 PM	#56
WILDTHING Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Churchville, Va Posts: 1,753	Marc, what happened to the pics from the first few pages after the split? colleen

03/30/2006, 12:02 AM	#59
richfavinger Premium Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Pottstown, PA Posts: 866	For a second there I thought you where going to say on your trip to the bathroom down the hall, you forgot you where in a hospital gown, with open air access to the back-side. And you where unknowingly showing all the nurses your "Bare Bottom"... Buy hey, when you got to go, YOU GOT TO GO!

03/30/2006, 08:37 AM	#60
robwsup Premium Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Orange Park, FL Posts: 2,434	I got my appendix pulled in 1996, in the Navy, on the Enterprise, in the Persian Gulf. Sucked. The infirmary had no AC, and all the Navy would give for pain was Ibuprofen. __________________ Robert Current Tank Info: I own a LFS, so a bunch!

03/30/2006, 10:27 AM	#61
lovetoreef Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Canton, TX Posts: 763	well, i had mine out 2 summers ago - they were able to scope me with 3 small holes - made recovery pretty easy - so, things have gotten better __________________ Planning SPS AIO tank Canton, TX Reefing on and off since 2001 Current Tank Info: planning nano AIO

03/30/2006, 12:00 PM	#62
melev Moved On Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Ft Worth, Tx Posts: 43,217	I thought Jake was going to say he started peeing way before he got to the bathroom. I did a 55g water change two days ago, so I began dosing today. I'm going to hold off on ReefBooster for at least two weeks. New schedule:

03/30/2006, 12:03 PM	#63
Gallandro Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: UK Posts: 148	Melev, up for a sump pump question ?

03/30/2006, 12:21 PM	#66
Gallandro Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: UK Posts: 148	Completed all the Acrylic cuts for my nano sump, but puzzling over which put to get. I normally default to Eheim, but the larger Universal range is physically to large, and the small compact pumps I dont think are powerfull enough (150lph-1000lph 2.0m 23) I fancey trying the Newjet pumps specs below, but whch ? NeW-Jet 400 120 - 400lph NeW-Jet 600 200 - 600lph NeW-Jet 800 300 - 800lph 2.0mtr NeW-Jet 1200 400 - 1200lph NeW-Jet 2300 1200 - 2300lph NeW-Jet 3000 1500 - 3000lph Pump will have to pump up 1mtr .. Tank holds 15 gallons

03/30/2006, 12:38 PM	#67
Gallandro Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: UK Posts: 148	15 uk gals is about 65ltrs, all pumps say a max hight of 2mtrs, so I guess thats there min flow rating. Assuming an even curve and a turnover fo 4 - 5 times an hour (325ltrs). the smaller pumps may do the job.

03/30/2006, 12:53 PM	#68
DerekW Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Southern Ontario Posts: 873	Was that a question? :P __________________ Derek It's a small world........But I wouldn't want to paint it. Current Tank Info: 220, 4x250w mh, 4x110w actinics CS12-2 RC , 75 gallon sump, Calcium reactor, DIY 36" Kalkwasser reactor

03/30/2006, 12:58 PM	#69
Gallandro Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: UK Posts: 148	yes but no but ... I think so ?!

03/30/2006, 01:05 PM	#70
melev Moved On Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Ft Worth, Tx Posts: 43,217	More like open to discussion. 2 meters is 6 feet for us, roughly speaking. You don't have to push water up more than 4', correct? Sounds like the smallest one will do the job. What I would suggest is you get one, and find out for yourself. If you like it, get a second one as a backup pump. Never leave your system unprotected, not having a backup pump available. When you need it, you can't wait a couple of days or a week for it to arrive.

03/30/2006, 01:10 PM	#71
Gallandro Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: UK Posts: 148	Ye 4' ;-) get one and find out for myself ? I was looking for a bit of guidence so I dont waste money. I guesed on a smaller one. Ill get one slightly bigger than the numbers say, I can always turn it down. thanks.

03/30/2006, 01:11 PM	#72
Gallandro Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: UK Posts: 148	.. and yes, I to live by the rule of two.

03/30/2006, 01:14 PM	#73
Qwiv Persistant Perspective Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Belmont, CA Posts: 2,168	Second Marks recomendation on a back-up. Around here, a replacement pump will cost you an arm and a leg at the LFS. A ViaAqua that is $27 at MarineDepot is $127. Don't even ask about a good pump like a eheim or mag, etc. If you have a closed loop however, you might be able to risk it, as the tank should survive fine with just the CL going. __________________ If I knew keeping fish would be so hard, I would of had kids by now. Current Tank Info: 50Cube + 250DD + Nano

03/30/2006, 01:16 PM	#74
Gallandro Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: UK Posts: 148	Oooo my engineer brain is going now doing overtime. How about two pumps both connected with a flow sensor on the first. If it fails, the second automatically kicks in .. hmm nice.

03/30/2006, 01:18 PM	#75
Gallandro Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: UK Posts: 148	I'm going withthe largest Ehieim Compact. well two of. 16 euros in Germany. plenty or scope for two there.