American Reef Lighting vs Japanese Reef Lighting - Here it is!

[bluereefs]

No sorry I dont have nothing new and inovative except kent marine pro scraper
There was loot of post in -japanese thread-how japanese tank look fake and unatural because they dont have coraline and other algae all over the glas and tank but explanations is prety simple,right ?

[absolutc]

Yes, it is pretty simple.

[Jorsan]

Is possible that someone who is exchanging mails with Yasuhiro could invites him to join REEFCENTRAL, and maybe that way we could get first hand info about this hobby in Japan?

[Jeremy B.]

Auron had stated in a previous reply that "Yasuhiro is taking a totally different and unique approach to this hobby...." , how do we know it is that unique, as the majority of Japanese reefers may take this approach. I have seen pics of quite a few tanks from Japan, and they have all had the "spot lighting" over them. I personally have seen US tanks with corals that look JUST AS GOOD, if not better, than the corals of some of these Japanese tanks. The only differences then would be our more "rugged" approach (as someone used that term in another thread here on RC), and they have a more "clean" looking tank. I for one say stick with the somewhat lower costs of our lighting setups, and conentrate more on the rest of the environment for the health and color of our animals.

BTW, thanks absolutc for your inquiry to Yasuhiro about this, as it is always interesting to hear other methods of reefkeeping.

[absolutc]

Jorsan -

I aksed Yasuhiro about joining this thread so he can speak with us. He hasn't go back to me yet. Hopefully in the next day or so.

[absolutc]

Here is another update for everyone. He his a bit worried about coming to the thread, at least thats what it looks like. I will see if he can come and join us.

Enjoy!


Hi Kris

I am also thankful to you. Since you write plain English by the short text, so I can answer.?@As you know, I am not good at English.?@I do not understand common use-nuance. I am worried about whether my English is correctly transmitted with a US bulletin board.

I know that many reefers in US are bringing the light closer to a tank more. For coral, it is desirable to irradiate light from many directions. ?@I think that two sets of 250watts MH lamps from two directions are better than one 400w MH lamp.
Since the reflector, which I am using, is very narrow angle, it can be used detaching from a tank.?@It is useful to preventing a water temperature rise.

My tank size is 60"(wide) x 26"(height) x 36"(depth), having a 200 US gallons capacity with a 50 gallons sump.?@Its glass thickness is 3/4inch, and glass was attached with black silicon.?@A 3/4-inch glass thickness is strong enough for its size, so there are any noticeable bows.

All the coral that I bought is mentioned on my WebPages. The whole tank photograph is put on �gallery-tankÕ of my page. There is the proof, which is not exchanging coral in it. Of course, if water quality does not suit, coral rarely dies. However, since many costs and labors are used in order that I may maintain coral for a long time and good condition, they will be unnecessary if I buy it again and again.
At last, my electricity bill is about 350-400 dollars a month.
Although it is very harmful to my wallet, there is no other means to make coral good condition.

It was a pleasure time for me to talk with you.?@Please post your message, if you have another questions.
Thank you.



Again, more to ponder. 350-400 bux in electricity! DAMN!

[Jorsan]

GREAT ABLOUTC! Thanks

[africangrey]

His English is better than mine, that's for sure. I wish I can speak and write Japenese as fluiently as he writes our language.
-A

[Jorsan]

Is there any way to traslate all the text in his website? suposse is not difficult to copy everything to WORD and then translate it. Any program that do that and I can find in the web?.
Thanks

[absolutc]

www.worldlingo.com Right there as the page opens up.

I will warn you - its a machine translation. Some of it will make no sense, then some of it will.


Good Luck!

[Jorsan]

Thanks ABSOLUTC but youre right, almost impossible!

[blazemore]

The problem is their sentence structure is a lot different.

...and to make this post somewhat on topic, I'm really enjoying this thread. Keep up the good work, absolutc. Could you perhaps ask him if other Japanese reef keepers use similar lighting setups when compared to his, and also if he knows of ways to import fish that are common over in Japan but not available in the US? I'd like to know if people over there still use canopies like we do in the US and if those with tank setups like his are just what everyone happens to be focusing on.

[David Groos]

Anyone know what type of pygmy angles the pair he has are? They look kind of like easter island pygmy's.

[gemtang]

David Groos,

yes they are the easter island pigmys, or the c. hotumatua... if you like the rare pigmy angels check his link, in one tank this guy has a hotu, interruptus, joculator, and resplendent

[Jon_Hewett_85]

It apears to me that having the lights like he does allows him to focus the light where it's needed on the corals...but stillhave it up PLENTY high to avoid heat problems. I agree with what he's doing....however on the flip side...my way works to...and if it ain't broke...don't fix it after all more than 1 way to skin a cat.

[Oppsea]

Hi all,
Certainly I am new to posting on this topic, yet old at thinking about the optical needs of our wet friends. I must seriously ask the question below. It arises as an engineer/quantum-physicist very much aware of the specific attributes of natural light at water depth & optical generation sources, growing up much of the time in the Bahamian waters & having a 240g reef or 12 years.

Given the following observations:
-- Countless post asking for the “What is the right amount of light�, �What is the best lighting,� “Will this be enough or too much light’�….
-- Ditto same question for filtering, water movement, additives, feeding, co-inhabitants, and many ore very critical husbandry parametric.
-- Every we are asked about what is the “best� for some specific environmental controlling contrivance, or the cause of some specific problem, we instantly ask about many other equal or greater critical methodology
-- We all would expect and accept radically different results between identical systems maintained by different people, and even greater divergence when the systems are similar in one specific domain, but are either different or unknown for others.

I have this question:
What are the other “things� the “other� aquarists are doing that are necessary, but not sufficient, and are of great importance perhaps far greater that the “light bulb� being used?

These boards are so fantastic for our “hobby.� No longer held prisoner by the LFS.
Absolutc, Amazing work you have accomplished, what do you seriously believe is the “one thing that make the difference? And thank you also for contacting the other aquarists.

[David Groos]

Ok that's some carzy money for one of those fish, let alone two!! Oh well, I guess they do get different stuff over there!! I bet that swiss gaurd probably cost him a fortune too!!

I'll bite!! If you can find out where to get a couple of those MHspots I'd bee interested. If nothing else but to some of the iwasaki 50k's on certain corals to bring out colors without turning the whole tank blue.

[Yasuhiro]

Hello, everyone. This is my first contribution to this online community.

I am Japanese reefer. Absolutc invited me to this excellent website. I am glad to be given by the Japanese tank with interest. In Japan and the U.S., as for me, a equipment is only different, and I think that there is no big difference in the method of beekeeping. The lamp, which became a topic of thread, is not surely required for coral to improve rich color. I am glad if information for reefkeeping can be exchanged by this forums.

Thank you.

[absolutc]

Yasuhiro-

Glad you could stop by! Woohoo! I am sure you will get some compliments and some questins!

[gas4544]

Yasuhiro,
Welcome to Reef Central, and thank you for joining our online community. It is very beneficial for all of us to communicate and to learn from each other.

[Oppsea]

Yasuhiro,
Welcome.

Would you please share your thoughts on:
-- Spot lighting as compared to general flood lighting
(I have been a proponent of non-uniform lighting for some time)
-- Focused lighting and also use of filtering to reduce the transmission to the tank of IR (infra red = long wave length = heat)

Yasuhiro, Would you consider opening a thread?


Thanks,
Alan

[bluereefs]

Yasuhiro welcome to reefcentral,dont worry about your english, my is 1000 time worse .Your tank is very beautifull,can I ask you here something about your tank or is this topic only for lighting?AbsolutC,can I?

[G-money]

Here's a little recent reef lighting and coral flourescing info from Steve Tyree for those who are interested - and those that need to get some things straight....be careful, it involves science.

http://www.reefs.org/library/talklog...ee_060202.html


When you speak of lighting and blah blah blah - once the corals have enough light to grow, the rest is purely personal preference. 100%. Folks forget that the corals don't care what color they are.

[Oppsea]

Graham,
Thanks for the link.

[PerryinCA]

A couple more links regarding UV and FPs...

http://www.aims.gov.au/pages/researc...yes/tpc01.html

and one that hold some good relevant info.

http://www.usyd.edu.au/su/emu/pdf/anya_pdf/Salih_Nature

-Perry