AI Vega Color/Blue Owners Thread!

[qfrisco]

Originally Posted by kajung2k

Yeah.. this lunar cycle is still baffling because it technically doesn't start until midnight when it reads the lunar cycle. Weird IMO. After all this.. I hope the AI Director is much easier and less buggy....

Oh right, I forgot about the midnight thing. I wonder if it would be cleaner and more intuitive if the lunar time period is just understood to be the inverse of the daytime cycle, with no need to define a start/end time for the lunar cycle. The lunar period then just takes the LED intensities of the "nighttime" cycle as it is implemented now.

The user then just needs to worry about setting:

Enable: Yes/No
Ramp: How many hours to ramp into and out of the lunar lights

The Ramp would be helpful as it allows the user to define a "complete darkness" period exclusive of the lunar cycle.

:-)

[ukguy]

Typical, I decide to buy and now I'm hearing 2-3 week backlog... At least that will mean more defects resolved by the time I get mine

[bezlar]

Glad to know they are selling well. Means better support.

[MBSL55]

Originally Posted by kajung2k

I have the latest firmware and I'm still having issues with scrolling around in the controller. If i use my iphone adaptor power adaptor it seems to work fine. I have played with the sensitity option and still have issues using the powersource the controller came with. Anyone else having this issue?

I had that issue and they replaced the power supply for me with one that did not lead to the button sensitivity issue.

[kajung2k]

Thanks. Ill ask for another power adaptor

Originally Posted by MBSL55

I had that issue and they replaced the power supply for me with one that did not lead to the button sensitivity issue.

[MarlinDreams]

Originally Posted by ukguy

Typical, I decide to buy and now I'm hearing 2-3 week backlog... At least that will mean more defects resolved by the time I get mine

I received one of my four that were ordered. They said one week on the backorder, gives me time to study and placements. Can hardly wait.

[qfrisco]

Ok, I thought I had the Lunar Cycle down, but I'm confused again. :-/

In a previous posted excerpt from Justin of AI it says that the "Lunar Cycle reduces (never increases) intensities of all LED colors for the programmed hours of the day".

I assume these intensities are those programmed for the "Nite" hours, right?

So say I have my Royal Blue set to 10% at Nite, a full moon will set Royal Blue to the full 10%, and fractions of that depending on the phase of the moon. Right?

My further assumption is that the Lunar Cycle's "Start Hour" and "End Hour" settings then specify when the above logic is applied? Right?

So what happens when I am in "Nite" mode, but outside of the Lunar Cycle's "Start Hour" and "End Hour"? It seems the logic would say that the lights would go to "full moon" intensity while outside the Lunar Cycle's period, then assume the proper lunar cycle's intensities inside the Lunar Cycle's period. This doesn't seem like a very good implementation. This is what's confusing me, which is leading me to thinking I'm missing something.

Help? :-)

[theReefKing]

Originally Posted by ReeferGil

That was awesome! Very cool video. Now you have to come out with more videos explaining what you have

Here is a spontainious video my wife took today, one of our turbo snails went for a ride and she captured it for me while I was out. It is of our 62 gal red sea.

[reef bloke]

The easiest thing to do is set the lunar to come on as the night timer starts and just before it ends. If you want a period of no light at all between the night and day just set a timer in between your night and your day timer at set it to 0 on a channels. Your Lunar can still be run through the night and 0 timer but will dim to 0.


You could also set a few timers during the night with different intensities of blue light and as the Lunar cycles through them the moon lights will increase and decrease through the night.

[theReefKing]

Originally Posted by ukguy

thats interesting, what the AWL from the vega to the surface of the water? in my 4x2x2 I'm planning to mount 2, around 5" from the surface, what was the depth of that diy mount, from rail to the lowest edge of the vega ?

From the underside of the canopy to the surface of the water is 10 1/4"

The surface of the water to the bottom of the VEGAs is 4 3/4", so from the bottom of the VEGA to the bottom of the canopy is 5 1/2"

[bezlar]

I've come to the conclusion that the implementation of the lunar cycle sucks. I have mine set to start the same time my day lights end, and the last five nights my lights have been off until midnight? I have mine set at 2%, 5%' and 3% on the blues. I turned it off and set blue night back to 1%. At least I don't have to wake up to pee to enjoy my night lights. I'm sure they will fix this, or come up with better program. Till then I'm running 1% so I can enjoy my moon lights while I'm awake. Maybe I'm just not setting it right? Shouldn't be this confusing.

[theReefKing]

Originally Posted by qfrisco

Ok, I thought I had the Lunar Cycle down, but I'm co
So what happens when I am in "Nite" mode, but outside of the Lunar Cycle's "Start Hour" and "End Hour"? It seems the logic would say that the lights would go to "full moon" intensity while outside the Lunar Cycle's period, then assume the proper lunar cycle's intensities inside the Lunar Cycle's period. This doesn't seem like a very good implementation. This is what's confusing me, which is leading me to thinking I'm missing something.

Help? :-)

Your last paragraph is exactly right, but I think the implementation is awesome.

Think of the VEGAs in terms of how you would set up a T5 VHO unit:

Daytime Intensity *= white 14,000k t5s
Night time intensity = blue atinic t5s
Lunar Cycle = lunar night time LEDs

With a T5 set up, I would have my atinic on in the morning hours, then the whites for 8 hours, then the atinics on in the evenings, and just the lunar LED overnight.

With the VEGA you have these same three light options, but the transitions are smooth and more complex (and awesome I think)

Here is how I set my lights: this is in AUTO mode.

Daytime intensity from 11AM to 7PM, 2 hour ramp time,
Lunar cycle from 12:01AM to 7AM, 1 hour ramp time

I have the daytime intensity set to how I like the lights to be during the day (obvious), the night time intensity how I want the tank to look in the morning and evening viewing hours, and then I let the lunar cycle control when the tank is going to get darker (or black) overnight.*

A full day on my tank with no moon would look like this:

Noon - full daytime intensity, 7pm - full daytime start ramp to night time intensity, 9pm - full nighttime intensity, 11:01pm - start ramp to no moon, 12:01am - no moon (dark tank), 7am - dark tank start ramp to nighttime intensity, 8am - full nighttime intensity, 9am - start ramp to daytime, 11am - full daytime intensity

If you like your evening look to be different than your morning look, and you want your "full moon" to be less bright than your evening look, then just add more time blocks in manual mode. *
Just be sure that you have a time block extending overnight that is longer than the time you allot for the lunar cycle AND the ramping in and out of the lunar cycle. *This is key because if your lunar cycle is longer than the overnight lighting block you will cause your daytime (or morning) lighting to be "lunar cycled"

[theReefKing]

Originally Posted by theReefKing

Here is a spontainious video my wife took today, one of our turbo snails went for a ride and she captured it for me while I was out. It is of our 62 gal red sea.

I forgot the link

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlQbD...e_gdata_player

[theReefKing]

Originally Posted by bezlar

I've come to the conclusion that the implementation of the lunar cycle sucks. I have mine set to start the same time my day lights end, and the last five nights my lights have been off until midnight? I have mine set at 2%, 5%' and 3% on the blues. I turned it off and set blue night back to 1%. At least I don't have to wake up to pee to enjoy my night lights. I'm sure they will fix this, or come up with better program. Till then I'm running 1% so I can enjoy my moon lights while I'm awake. Maybe I'm just not setting it right? Shouldn't be this confusing.

By having your lunar cycle start when your daytime ends you are "lunar cycling" your daytime lights during their ramp down period, and cutting out your night time lighting all together.

Only start your lunar cycle after midnight, this should fix the issue, and let you enjoy your lights in the evenings.

[kajung2k]

This makes sense now. Thanks for the info!

Originally Posted by theReefKing

By having your lunar cycle start when your daytime ends you are "lunar cycling" your daytime lights during their ramp down period, and cutting out your night time lighting all together.

Only start your lunar cycle after midnight, this should fix the issue, and let you enjoy your lights in the evenings.

[stpatrick]

tagging alone

[ukguy]

just heard from Premium Aquatics, they still have units in stock and will be shipping me 2 vega's today!

[sgammon1]

Anyone know an online re-seller that has the Vega Color's in stock?

[qfrisco]

Originally Posted by sgammon1

Anyone know an online re-seller that has the Vega Color's in stock?

In the post right before yours, @ukguy says that Premium Aquatics has Vegas in stock. Not sure if they're Colors, but you could check with them!

[owenspackman]

Originally Posted by sgammon1

Anyone know an online re-seller that has the Vega Color's in stock?

amazon, got 2 last night

[bezlar]

Originally Posted by theReefKing

By having your lunar cycle start when your daytime ends you are "lunar cycling" your daytime lights during their ramp down period, and cutting out your night time lighting all together.

Only start your lunar cycle after midnight, this should fix the issue, and let you enjoy your lights in the evenings.

I have my lunar starting after my ramp down. My lights set 7am to 7pm ramp 2 hours. Lunar set 9pm to 7am. Intensity at 5,3,1 for blues. The last five night from 9 pm till midnight all lights off? So what am I doing wrong?

Thanks

[mcjlance]

Originally Posted by qfrisco

So with the pictures just posted, I don't see controls on the light other than the on/off switch. I had read somewhere that the lights are dimmable even without a controller. Anyone know how that works?

They are dimable. There are six degrees of intensity. You simply press the button multiple times to get the varying intensities.

[zmoose]

I have a 240 gallon (60" Long x 36" Wide x 24" Tall) FOWLR setup. I'd like to replace my current lighting setup with AI Vega's so I can start adding corals to make it a reef tank. How many Vega's would I need to do this? Thanks

[sgammon1]

Originally Posted by owenspackman

amazon, got 2 last night

Since CA has to pay taxes on Amazon now, that's not an option. And top of that a shipping for $9

[theReefKing]

Originally Posted by bezlar

I have my lunar starting after my ramp down. My lights set 7am to 7pm ramp 2 hours. Lunar set 9pm to 7am. Intensity at 5,3,1 for blues. The last five night from 9 pm till midnight all lights off? So what am I doing wrong?

Thanks

Move lunar back to 12:01am, this will have your lights at the full 5,3,1 until midnight, at which point the 5,3,1 will be cut down based on the phases of the moon.

With your morning time set to 7am your daytime lights will start to ramp on at 5am. So on days with no moon your tank will be dark till 7am and then flash to fullintensity. move your morning time back to 9am, to allow for the 2 hour "sunrise" to happen after the lunar cycle times.