Reeflo/Sequence Skimmer Club - Page 32

GSMguy · 02/10/2008, 10:05 AM

lower turbulence and the RAW water mixes with air before injection....

NuReef · 02/10/2008, 10:06 AM

Doncha love a late post

GSMguy · 02/10/2008, 10:12 AM

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Originally posted by NuReef
Doncha love a late post

klasiksb · 02/10/2008, 10:20 AM

In regards to the upgraded neck/collection cup, wouldn't it be a heck of a lot cheaper to just have a neck extension made (7" or whatever the difference is) to just go between the skimmer body and the exsisting cup? $250 is a good chunk of change on top of the skimmer price. Just looking for a cheaper alternative to increase performance.

Also, no more actually reading of what the air draw is on the 250?

BreadmanMike · 02/10/2008, 11:04 AM

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Originally posted by klasiksb
In regards to the upgraded neck/collection cup, wouldn't it be a heck of a lot cheaper to just have a neck extension made (7" or whatever the difference is) to just go between the skimmer body and the exsisting cup? $250 is a good chunk of change on top of the skimmer price. Just looking for a cheaper alternative to increase performance.

I bet MRC could make this, but they would need to know exactly where to put the screw holes or it wouldn't match up.

Another alternative would be to see if Coralvue would have them made.

I'm sure there are others that could make them as well.

JRaquatics · 02/10/2008, 11:20 AM

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Originally posted by klasiksb
In regards to the upgraded neck/collection cup, wouldn't it be a heck of a lot cheaper to just have a neck extension made (7" or whatever the difference is) to just go between the skimmer body and the exsisting cup? $250 is a good chunk of change on top of the skimmer price. Just looking for a cheaper alternative to increase performance.

Also, no more actually reading of what the air draw is on the 250?

The upgraded cup is much more than a longer neck. The cup itself is much larger itself. The way it was designed is to allow the skimmate to form a natural head and colapse over, instead of pounding the head into the lid prematurly popping the bubbles and effecting performance and deposits collecting in the neck. Overall the cup itself is worth its price in acrylic and adds value to the overal skimmer, it really puts the reeflo stock cup to shame.

BreadmanMike · 02/10/2008, 11:22 AM

Isn't the cup made for the baldor motor upgrade though?

JRaquatics · 02/10/2008, 11:28 AM

Nope. Is was created before they decided to place the baldor pumps on the skimmer to allow the skimmer to work at full efficiency. Sure, now that the higher pressure/power baldor motor is now available it would indead handle better and offer more control with the use of the upgraded cup.

BreadmanMike · 02/10/2008, 11:31 AM

Does Mike have any pics of his 250 with the bigger cup? I'd like to see the foam and skimmate.

JRaquatics · 02/10/2008, 11:42 AM

BreadmanMike · 02/10/2008, 11:45 AM

Nice!

Is that with the standard Dart or the Baldor upgrade?

JRaquatics · 02/10/2008, 11:46 AM

Standard Dart. I think it also was one of the first Reeflo 250s running.

BreadmanMike · 02/10/2008, 11:56 AM

I'd like to check that out in person. You have to take me there one day.

JRaquatics · 02/10/2008, 12:00 PM

Here is the crap** video I took a while back at the wrong angle of the upgreaded cup. You can see were the water sits the rest is all air.

klasiksb · 02/10/2008, 12:08 PM

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Originally posted by JRaquatics
The upgraded cup is much more than a longer neck. The cup itself is much larger itself. The way it was designed is to allow the skimmate to form a natural head and colapse over, instead of pounding the head into the lid prematurly popping the bubbles and effecting performance and deposits collecting in the neck. Overall the cup itself is worth its price in acrylic and adds value to the overal skimmer, it really puts the reeflo stock cup to shame.

What would one expect to happen if just an extension riser was put in place with the original cup? Would hate to spend $250 more on top of the skimmer price.

klasiksb · 02/10/2008, 12:27 PM

Also, for those feeding there skimmer from an overflow, do you just run the drain right into the skimmer? Does the air coming down the line cause any problems feeding the skimmer this way?

JRaquatics · 02/10/2008, 12:34 PM

You would not gain the extra control you would expect on a longer neck. You sould end up with performance close to a low grade becket. In order for you to onany luck with just an extension you will need to nock the crown off epoxy the holes, cut down the top of the neck by1-2 inches. Ultimately you creating a smaller cheaper version of the upgraded cup.

FishTruck · 02/10/2008, 02:16 PM

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Originally posted by klasiksb
Also, for those feeding there skimmer from an overflow, do you just run the drain right into the skimmer? Does the air coming down the line cause any problems feeding the skimmer this way?

I had trouble with the air coming into the skimmer gravity feeding this way and gave it up. It was putting big bubbles into the reaction chamber that were breaking up the foam. Others have made it work however. If you try it, I would suggest using an overflow dedicated JUSt to feeding your skimmer. Those who were more successful than we with the gravity feed seem to have it set up this way from what I have read.

FishTruck · 02/10/2008, 02:17 PM

Regarding the upgraded cup, it also handles the foam head differently than the standard cup. It is open rather than having a "lid" at the top of the riser tube.

Also, the covering on the cup is also MUCH heavier with no holes in it. This was important for me. During the curing process, when I put live rock in the tank, the foam head would, literally, blow the lid right off the skimmer with the standard cup. The foam was also pouring out of the ventillation holes on the standard cup. Even with the outflow opened all the way.

The upgraded cup handles these episodes much better since it only vents out the bottom drain and the lid stays put. Also, with the higher riser, I can actually manage the extreme foam production that is going on with curing rock in my system.

Ryan.

Jetdrvr · 02/10/2008, 02:42 PM

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Originally posted by klasiksb
What would one expect to happen if just an extension riser was put in place with the original cup? Would hate to spend $250 more on top of the skimmer price.

What size tank are you running this on? You really have no need for the upgraded cup if it is on a 140. As far as the price goes on top of the skimmer, the price gives the most performance for the price of anytihng available and another $250 to increase it that much is well worth it.

Jetdrvr · 02/10/2008, 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by klasiksb
What would one expect to happen if just an extension riser was put in place with the original cup? Would hate to spend $250 more on top of the skimmer price.

What size tank are you running this on? You really have no need for the upgraded cup if it is on a 140. As far as the price goes on top of the skimmer, the price gives the most performance for the price of anytihng available and another $250 to increase it that much is well worth it.

klasiksb · 02/10/2008, 02:50 PM

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Originally posted by Jetdrvr
What size tank are you running this on? You really have no need for the upgraded cup if it is on a 140. As far as the price goes on top of the skimmer, the price gives the most performance for the price of anytihng available and another $250 to increase it that much is well worth it.

It will be going on a heavily stocked 220 gal. system, but we will be upgrading in a year or so to a roughly 400-450 gal. system which is the reason i'm buying this skimmer. My current Octopus NW200 ain't cuttin it.

I don't have the skimmer yet, but should have it in a couple of weeks.

Jetdrvr · 02/10/2008, 03:52 PM

This skimmer is awesome, for the price there is nothing that can touch it. Where are you going to order it from ? I got mine at Reef Specialty, Mike is the best guy to deal with, he knows these things better than anyone.

reefyguy · 02/10/2008, 04:20 PM

I agree. Call other places and they have no clue about the skimmer..trust me.......he has great prices and unbeatable customer support. You cant go wrong with him.

www.reefspecialty.com

klasiksb · 02/10/2008, 04:22 PM

I am picking up the one that Jeremy B. is selling that he was going to use on his prop system, but his plans changed.

02/10/2008, 10:05 AM	#776
GSMguy Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Northern New Mexico Posts: 17,420	lower turbulence and the RAW water mixes with air before injection.... __________________ Nick. Conehead. Shallow Reef club. Current Tank Info: 48"x27"x14" Envision Acrylic rimless, 6x39w ATi Sunpower, Custom ATB Deluxe Skimmer, 4x tunze nano stream,ATB flowstar 1500, ACJR, Tunze osmolator.

02/10/2008, 10:06 AM	#777
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02/10/2008, 10:20 AM	#779
klasiksb Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: wisconsin Posts: 1,281	Upgrading Collection Cup In regards to the upgraded neck/collection cup, wouldn't it be a heck of a lot cheaper to just have a neck extension made (7" or whatever the difference is) to just go between the skimmer body and the exsisting cup? $250 is a good chunk of change on top of the skimmer price. Just looking for a cheaper alternative to increase performance. Also, no more actually reading of what the air draw is on the 250? __________________ Just a girl looking to build a little piece of heaven on earth, without killing it!

02/10/2008, 12:27 PM	#791
klasiksb Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: wisconsin Posts: 1,281	Also, for those feeding there skimmer from an overflow, do you just run the drain right into the skimmer? Does the air coming down the line cause any problems feeding the skimmer this way? __________________ Just a girl looking to build a little piece of heaven on earth, without killing it!

02/10/2008, 02:17 PM	#794
FishTruck Premium Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Downers Grove, IL Posts: 805	Regarding the upgraded cup, it also handles the foam head differently than the standard cup. It is open rather than having a "lid" at the top of the riser tube. Also, the covering on the cup is also MUCH heavier with no holes in it. This was important for me. During the curing process, when I put live rock in the tank, the foam head would, literally, blow the lid right off the skimmer with the standard cup. The foam was also pouring out of the ventillation holes on the standard cup. Even with the outflow opened all the way. The upgraded cup handles these episodes much better since it only vents out the bottom drain and the lid stays put. Also, with the higher riser, I can actually manage the extreme foam production that is going on with curing rock in my system. Ryan. __________________ Department of Redundancy Department. Current Tank Info: Established 2009 - 300 gal acrylic mostly sps, radion LEDs

02/10/2008, 11:22 AM	#782
BreadmanMike Moved On Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Illinois Posts: 4,886	Isn't the cup made for the baldor motor upgrade though?

02/10/2008, 11:28 AM	#783
JRaquatics Awaiting Email Confirmation Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: On RC Posts: 3,609	Nope. Is was created before they decided to place the baldor pumps on the skimmer to allow the skimmer to work at full efficiency. Sure, now that the higher pressure/power baldor motor is now available it would indead handle better and offer more control with the use of the upgraded cup.

02/10/2008, 11:31 AM	#784
BreadmanMike Moved On Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Illinois Posts: 4,886	Does Mike have any pics of his 250 with the bigger cup? I'd like to see the foam and skimmate.

02/10/2008, 11:42 AM	#785
JRaquatics Awaiting Email Confirmation Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: On RC Posts: 3,609

02/10/2008, 11:45 AM	#786
BreadmanMike Moved On Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Illinois Posts: 4,886	Nice! Is that with the standard Dart or the Baldor upgrade?

02/10/2008, 11:46 AM	#787
JRaquatics Awaiting Email Confirmation Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: On RC Posts: 3,609	Standard Dart. I think it also was one of the first Reeflo 250s running.

02/10/2008, 11:56 AM	#788
BreadmanMike Moved On Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Illinois Posts: 4,886	I'd like to check that out in person. You have to take me there one day.

02/10/2008, 12:00 PM	#789
JRaquatics Awaiting Email Confirmation Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: On RC Posts: 3,609	Here is the crap** video I took a while back at the wrong angle of the upgreaded cup. You can see were the water sits the rest is all air.

02/10/2008, 12:34 PM	#792
JRaquatics Awaiting Email Confirmation Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: On RC Posts: 3,609	You would not gain the extra control you would expect on a longer neck. You sould end up with performance close to a low grade becket. In order for you to onany luck with just an extension you will need to nock the crown off epoxy the holes, cut down the top of the neck by1-2 inches. Ultimately you creating a smaller cheaper version of the upgraded cup.

02/10/2008, 03:52 PM	#798
Jetdrvr Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Howland OH Posts: 445	This skimmer is awesome, for the price there is nothing that can touch it. Where are you going to order it from ? I got mine at Reef Specialty, Mike is the best guy to deal with, he knows these things better than anyone.

02/10/2008, 04:20 PM	#799
reefyguy Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 393	I agree. Call other places and they have no clue about the skimmer..trust me.......he has great prices and unbeatable customer support. You cant go wrong with him. www.reefspecialty.com

02/10/2008, 04:22 PM	#800
klasiksb Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: wisconsin Posts: 1,281	I am picking up the one that Jeremy B. is selling that he was going to use on his prop system, but his plans changed. __________________ Just a girl looking to build a little piece of heaven on earth, without killing it!