New Lumen Bright Reflector. ... any info on them - Page 32

Fuzznutz · 10/17/2008, 07:24 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by klviper
I am not happy with my current T5 setup on my 375 and am planning on switching to halide. I have a line on two new dual PFO hqi ballasts and I was thinking of going with (4) Reeflux 12k bulbs and LumenBright reflectors. The tank is 96 x 30 x 30. The question is since PFO will no longer be selling halide is this a bad idea. Warranty issues? Also opinions on this setup is appreciated. I want to do this next setup right so I don't have to explain to the wife exactly what is wrong with the lights I already have.

Are you going to do DE pendants or are you just looking to overdrive the hell out of the bulbs? Maybe look into the Sunlight Supply Blue Wave ballasts (I have a dual blue wave 7 up for sale soon *shameless plug*) instead of PFO. Personally, I like the look of the Reeflux on the Coralvue electronic...nice color and the PAR #s are good, should beat your T5 setup for depth w/o any problem.

klviper · 10/17/2008, 07:41 AM

I was planning on the SE setup and overdrive the bulbs. I am also looking at the coralvue/reeflux setup. The price is about the same so I guess which is the better setup Coralvue elec vs PFO hqi. Sorry but not interested in sunlight supply. That is who made my T5 setup and one ballast went on it after two months of operation. Then trying to get a hold of them to get it replaced was a major chore. This is prob a isolated incident but I am done with them.

squin · 10/17/2008, 08:09 AM

From what I've read. You can't go wrong with the coralvue dimmable driving the 12k's. I have the 12k's in LB mini's now, love the color, and will be upgrading to the coralvue ballast soon.

klviper · 10/17/2008, 09:54 AM

on a 30" wide tank would the LB larges be better than the mini's

Fuzznutz · 10/17/2008, 10:05 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by klviper
I was planning on the SE setup and overdrive the bulbs. I am also looking at the coralvue/reeflux setup. The price is about the same so I guess which is the better setup Coralvue elec vs PFO hqi. Sorry but not interested in sunlight supply. That is who made my T5 setup and one ballast went on it after two months of operation. Then trying to get a hold of them to get it replaced was a major chore. This is prob a isolated incident but I am done with them.

Well, their T5 and MH setups are two different things...both PFO and SLS use the Advance M80 ballast, just an FYI. That sucks about the customer service though...I have yet to have a problem with them.
I like the look of the Coralvue Electronic personally...but everyone is different

melev · 10/17/2008, 10:41 AM

Coralvue will tell you to use their ballast on their bulbs, of course. I don't see the point of overdriving the bulbs since you'll have large Lumenbright reflectors that do an excellent job.

And if you can't get a warranty with the PFO ballasts, why bother buying them? I use IceCap e-ballasts because that is what I have.

bradw6860 · 10/17/2008, 04:57 PM

Hi

Is someone here able to weight a LB large pendent (black shell) as i need to know exactly how heavy this thing is.

Cheers
Brad

PLEASE

A sea K · 10/17/2008, 04:57 PM

klviper, FWIW I had originally planned to use HQI ballast and overdrive a 250watt SE bulb for max par vs using 400 watters for my 30" tank depth. When I found this thread I decided using the LB reflector with an electronic ballast would give the results I was looking for without the added electric consumption of HQI and frequent bulb changes normally associated with overdriving.
I guess what I'm trying to say is, if you feel you can acheive the results your looking for using these reflectors and electronic ballast why bother with HQI?

melev · 10/17/2008, 05:51 PM

Brad, they are roughly 20 lbs each.

bradw6860 · 10/19/2008, 10:00 PM

Ok last question hopefully....

Does anyone have a 30x30x30 inch tank with a lumen bright large over it??? Pics plz

I just want to know as a rough estimate what the par will be like at the bottom with the 250w given its around 16" off the water.

Any rough values would be good..

melev · 10/19/2008, 10:02 PM

A rough estimate would be over 200 PAR.

bradw6860 · 10/19/2008, 10:54 PM

That's just what i wanted to hear... but will this be what i would be getting with the 12k reeflux on the coralvue e-dimmable ballast?

melev · 10/19/2008, 11:04 PM

You are asking for an estimate. I've tested the 250w 12,000K Reeflux bulb in a Large Lumenbright reflector in my tank that is 30" tall and 30" deep. The only difference is I'm using an IceCap e-ballast, and my bulb is 18" off the water, not 16" off the water. I think 200 PAR is believable, but until you own a meter no-one can say for sure:

billbigsbe1 · 10/19/2008, 11:21 PM

any info on 1000watt lumenbrites please pm me!!!!

luan67 · 10/20/2008, 09:29 AM

I just want to add that after installing 3 of the reflectors, i can see a HUGE difference in brightness as compare to my mix of halides and 8VHOs. my current setup is with 3 250MH 12K reeflux bulbs. two of them are driven by the icecap ballasts and one of them is driven my the coralvue dimmable ballast. the coralvue has more blue in the bulb but i dont think it warrants a replacement if you have an icecap already.

this is money worth spent IMO and since it is now an open canopy instead of a close hood, i'm generating less heat and less electricity (no more VHO).

amstar · 10/20/2008, 11:52 AM

okay I recently upgraded to a 150 gallon tank (72"x 18 1/2" x 29" tall) I am interested in the new lumen bright reflectors. there is so many pages to read, but this is what I am thinking about:

3 ice-cap ballasts (250 watt) (like the idea of coralvue dimmable ballast...is it worth the extra money) (are galaxy ballasts any good)
3 lumen bright reflectors (mini)
12k reflux bulbs

is this good for a the size tank I have? sps, softies, zoas and stonies.

how high do these reflectors need to be mounted from the water (I think I heard/read 15" min) that should be no problem since the whole tank is being built in the wall with everything else being in a "fish room"

I need to get moving quick all i have on the tank now is 440 watts of vho and 2 x 175 watt 14k bulbs

JRaquatics · 10/20/2008, 12:18 PM

Your planned lighting set up sounds optimal. I would suggest however to go with the complete retro kit (bulb, ballast and reflector) and save some $ instead of buying them all separate.

http://www.reefspecialty.com/Lightin...duct_info.html

amstar · 10/20/2008, 01:05 PM

so the one is 110 dollars and the other is 135 dollars. the extra 25 dollars is for the black coating and the protective glass shield.

what is the benefits of the black coating if any. if the fixture is going to be 15" plus off the water is the protective glass shield that important? can you get the glass shield for the 110 dollar one?

melev · 10/20/2008, 01:08 PM

amstar, you don't have to read this whole thread. Here's the entire topic, in a nutshell:

LumenBright Reflectors - Enlighten Us! - June 2008 of Reefkeeping Magazine

melev · 10/20/2008, 01:09 PM

It isn't a black coating, it is an outer shell.

chad508 · 10/20/2008, 03:55 PM

what is everyone opinion on the de pendent. will you get same par numbers and spread as a se pendent.

chad508 · 10/20/2008, 04:31 PM

ive got another question. im looking at running 400 watt se. i already have the coralvue dimmable ballast. i am going to dim them all the way down and from my math it will run the bulbs at 260 watts. is this safe to assume and is it fine to run the bulbs at this setting forever. i would think i could get more life out of the bulbs, run cooler and still get good par by going with the lb reflectors. would there be in benefit to stay with what i have verse just getting new 250 ballast and bulbs. any info would be great thanks

chad508 · 10/26/2008, 09:26 PM

did this thread die are what

gary faulkner · 10/28/2008, 03:39 PM

are what

gary faulkner · 10/28/2008, 03:41 PM

are what

10/17/2008, 07:41 AM	#777
klviper Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Crystal Lake, IL Posts: 556	I was planning on the SE setup and overdrive the bulbs. I am also looking at the coralvue/reeflux setup. The price is about the same so I guess which is the better setup Coralvue elec vs PFO hqi. Sorry but not interested in sunlight supply. That is who made my T5 setup and one ballast went on it after two months of operation. Then trying to get a hold of them to get it replaced was a major chore. This is prob a isolated incident but I am done with them. __________________ 450 display - 1k gal setup

10/17/2008, 09:54 AM	#779
klviper Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Crystal Lake, IL Posts: 556	on a 30" wide tank would the LB larges be better than the mini's __________________ 450 display - 1k gal setup

10/17/2008, 04:57 PM	#782
bradw6860 Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 23	Hi Is someone here able to weight a LB large pendent (black shell) as i need to know exactly how heavy this thing is. Cheers Brad PLEASE Last edited by bradw6860; 10/17/2008 at 05:07 PM.

10/17/2008, 04:57 PM	#783
A sea K Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Branford Fl Posts: 3,024	klviper, FWIW I had originally planned to use HQI ballast and overdrive a 250watt SE bulb for max par vs using 400 watters for my 30" tank depth. When I found this thread I decided using the LB reflector with an electronic ballast would give the results I was looking for without the added electric consumption of HQI and frequent bulb changes normally associated with overdriving. I guess what I'm trying to say is, if you feel you can acheive the results your looking for using these reflectors and electronic ballast why bother with HQI? __________________ I am not a pro so excuse me if I'm wrong. Current Tank Info: 30gal Deep Blue rimless 9/10/2014, 80gal Deep Blue rimless 40gal sump/refugium 9/11/16 LPS reef, 2 x Kessil A160 with a single Maxspect Razor, RO Prime 150INT skimmer, Sicce 3 return pump, Vortech MP40 and MP10

10/28/2008, 03:39 PM	#799
gary faulkner Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: North Carolina Posts: 1,468	are what __________________ Gary Current Tank Info: 300G SPS

10/17/2008, 08:09 AM	#778
squin Premium Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: St. Petersburg, FL Posts: 143	From what I've read. You can't go wrong with the coralvue dimmable driving the 12k's. I have the 12k's in LB mini's now, love the color, and will be upgrading to the coralvue ballast soon.

10/17/2008, 10:41 AM	#781
melev Moved On Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Ft Worth, Tx Posts: 43,217	Coralvue will tell you to use their ballast on their bulbs, of course. I don't see the point of overdriving the bulbs since you'll have large Lumenbright reflectors that do an excellent job. And if you can't get a warranty with the PFO ballasts, why bother buying them? I use IceCap e-ballasts because that is what I have.

10/17/2008, 05:51 PM	#784
melev Moved On Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Ft Worth, Tx Posts: 43,217	Brad, they are roughly 20 lbs each.

10/19/2008, 10:00 PM	#785
bradw6860 Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 23	Ok last question hopefully.... Does anyone have a 30x30x30 inch tank with a lumen bright large over it??? Pics plz I just want to know as a rough estimate what the par will be like at the bottom with the 250w given its around 16" off the water. Any rough values would be good..

10/19/2008, 10:02 PM	#786
melev Moved On Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Ft Worth, Tx Posts: 43,217	A rough estimate would be over 200 PAR.

10/19/2008, 10:54 PM	#787
bradw6860 Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 23	That's just what i wanted to hear... but will this be what i would be getting with the 12k reeflux on the coralvue e-dimmable ballast?

10/19/2008, 11:04 PM	#788
melev Moved On Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Ft Worth, Tx Posts: 43,217	You are asking for an estimate. I've tested the 250w 12,000K Reeflux bulb in a Large Lumenbright reflector in my tank that is 30" tall and 30" deep. The only difference is I'm using an IceCap e-ballast, and my bulb is 18" off the water, not 16" off the water. I think 200 PAR is believable, but until you own a meter no-one can say for sure:

10/19/2008, 11:21 PM	#789
billbigsbe1 Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Des Moines Posts: 324	any info on 1000watt lumenbrites please pm me!!!!

10/20/2008, 09:29 AM	#790
luan67 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Virginia Posts: 86	I just want to add that after installing 3 of the reflectors, i can see a HUGE difference in brightness as compare to my mix of halides and 8VHOs. my current setup is with 3 250MH 12K reeflux bulbs. two of them are driven by the icecap ballasts and one of them is driven my the coralvue dimmable ballast. the coralvue has more blue in the bulb but i dont think it warrants a replacement if you have an icecap already. this is money worth spent IMO and since it is now an open canopy instead of a close hood, i'm generating less heat and less electricity (no more VHO).

10/20/2008, 11:52 AM	#791
amstar Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Dayton Ohio Posts: 745	okay I recently upgraded to a 150 gallon tank (72"x 18 1/2" x 29" tall) I am interested in the new lumen bright reflectors. there is so many pages to read, but this is what I am thinking about: 3 ice-cap ballasts (250 watt) (like the idea of coralvue dimmable ballast...is it worth the extra money) (are galaxy ballasts any good) 3 lumen bright reflectors (mini) 12k reflux bulbs is this good for a the size tank I have? sps, softies, zoas and stonies. how high do these reflectors need to be mounted from the water (I think I heard/read 15" min) that should be no problem since the whole tank is being built in the wall with everything else being in a "fish room" I need to get moving quick all i have on the tank now is 440 watts of vho and 2 x 175 watt 14k bulbs

10/20/2008, 12:18 PM	#792
JRaquatics Awaiting Email Confirmation Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: On RC Posts: 3,609	Your planned lighting set up sounds optimal. I would suggest however to go with the complete retro kit (bulb, ballast and reflector) and save some $ instead of buying them all separate. http://www.reefspecialty.com/Lightin...duct_info.html

10/20/2008, 01:05 PM	#793
amstar Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Dayton Ohio Posts: 745	so the one is 110 dollars and the other is 135 dollars. the extra 25 dollars is for the black coating and the protective glass shield. what is the benefits of the black coating if any. if the fixture is going to be 15" plus off the water is the protective glass shield that important? can you get the glass shield for the 110 dollar one?

10/20/2008, 01:08 PM	#794
melev Moved On Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Ft Worth, Tx Posts: 43,217	amstar, you don't have to read this whole thread. Here's the entire topic, in a nutshell: LumenBright Reflectors - Enlighten Us! - June 2008 of Reefkeeping Magazine

10/20/2008, 01:09 PM	#795
melev Moved On Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Ft Worth, Tx Posts: 43,217	It isn't a black coating, it is an outer shell.

10/20/2008, 03:55 PM	#796
chad508 Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: MB SC Posts: 1,402	what is everyone opinion on the de pendent. will you get same par numbers and spread as a se pendent.

10/20/2008, 04:31 PM	#797
chad508 Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: MB SC Posts: 1,402	ive got another question. im looking at running 400 watt se. i already have the coralvue dimmable ballast. i am going to dim them all the way down and from my math it will run the bulbs at 260 watts. is this safe to assume and is it fine to run the bulbs at this setting forever. i would think i could get more life out of the bulbs, run cooler and still get good par by going with the lb reflectors. would there be in benefit to stay with what i have verse just getting new 250 ballast and bulbs. any info would be great thanks

10/26/2008, 09:26 PM	#798
chad508 Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: MB SC Posts: 1,402	did this thread die are what

10/28/2008, 03:41 PM	#800
gary faulkner Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: North Carolina Posts: 1,468	are what __________________ Gary Current Tank Info: 300G SPS