anyone tried to using Jebo WP40? - Page 32

serpent · 03/09/2013, 04:16 PM

Got mine today. Now I just need to get off my butt and finish getting my tank setup.

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DavidinGA · 03/09/2013, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by takayan

When did u order? Mine has not shipped yet

3-1-2013

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WillM · 03/09/2013, 04:49 PM

Got mine today. Took out my 4 Korallia 1050s. I ordered a voltage regulator since I have a 75G tank, but I really don't need it. I have it on W1 and the knob cranked up and it doesn't come close to splashing out of the tank. If the knob is set to midways then it does get kind of splashy. I don't know that I'll use the voltage regulator. I will say that it has raised all kinds of mulm that the steady stream of the Korallias wasn't able to keep suspended. I put a filter sock on my overflow for the first time in a long time. I cleaned the Korallias, and may put one of them back in but it will be nice to only have two pumps in the tank.

Newbie Aquarist · 03/09/2013, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by SeedlessOne

http://youtu.be/kyjGzXI7YpU

Made this video for my stepdad showing him new pump so ignore my dorky commentary.

That looked powerful. Almost blew the water out of your tank.

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barry_keith · 03/09/2013, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by WillM

Got mine today. Took out my 4 Korallia 1050s. I ordered a voltage regulator since I have a 75G tank, but I really don't need it. I have it on W1 and the knob cranked up and it doesn't come close to splashing out of the tank. If the knob is set to midways then it does get kind of splashy. I don't know that I'll use the voltage regulator. I will say that it has raised all kinds of mulm that the steady stream of the Korallias wasn't able to keep suspended. I put a filter sock on my overflow for the first time in a long time. I cleaned the Korallias, and may put one of them back in but it will be nice to only have two pumps in the tank.

That's what I thought at first too, but too much sand was blowing around. I didnt notice it for the first week or so. I started getting little mounds all over tank. I find 20v is prefect for my tank.

ctlegacy · 03/09/2013, 06:28 PM

Do you think you could splice the wires to run 2 pumps off one controller?

DavidinGA · 03/09/2013, 06:41 PM

Wouldn't it also stand a good chance of making the pump last longer with a voltage regulator and a lower power setting?

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fltekdiver · 03/09/2013, 08:43 PM

I have a 120 gallon tank, 48" long 24" wide. 25" high

Should I order one or two of these?

Or should I order the 25's when they come out to go with the 40 ?

Skinnysloth · 03/09/2013, 08:50 PM

Another observation. The 120w variable power supply from Amazon linked earlier in this thread has a built in fan. The fan annoyingly ramps up and down in correlation to the pump's speed. For those of us who are more sensitive to noise, that power supply will be another, albeit small, source of noise.

I have since switched back to the original power supply. The flow in W2 mode with the wave interval set at the lowest setting does not over power my 48x20x20 tank. It all depends on the location of the pump and your aquascape.

fltekdiver · 03/09/2013, 08:54 PM

Do I need one pump or two? See post above

treetopflyn · 03/09/2013, 09:01 PM

Got mine today and started playing with it. DAMN this thing moved a LOT of water and is a LOT bigger than I expected. Might be too much for my 105 even with it dialed back. What mode are you all getting the back and forth motion with?

fltekdiver · 03/09/2013, 09:09 PM

Just pre ordered one !

Skinnysloth · 03/09/2013, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by fltekdiver

Do I need one pump or two? See post above

If the 25s were available right now, I would have gotten two of them for my tank. Two should work well in yours as well. Two pumps should allow better coverage and minimize dead spots in the tank.

As the 25s were not available and I didn't want to wait for something that did not have a definite release date, I bought one of the 40s. At this moment I don't feel the need to add another pump as it works just fine for me in my setup.

If you don't want to wait and aren't too concern about spending more money, you can get two 40s and run them at a lower voltage with two variable power supply.

If you want to get your new pump now, get one 40 with a way to decrease the voltage and you can add another 25 down the line. I don't believe there is any shipping discount if you buy more than one pump at the same time, so it's not like you'll waste money on shipping twice.

barry_keith · 03/09/2013, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by treetopflyn

Got mine today and started playing with it. DAMN this thing moved a LOT of water and is a LOT bigger than I expected. Might be too much for my 105 even with it dialed back. What mode are you all getting the back and forth motion with?

W1 is best for the back and forth motion. Play with the knob until you get it dialed in how you like it.

My tank has similar dimensions to yours. Dialing the knob just a little shy of the midpoint gives me a nice back and forth, wave like motion.

dartier · 03/09/2013, 11:05 PM

OK, Roberto from Reefangel has determined how this pump is being controlled. The VA line is using a 0 to +5V Analog signal to control the speed. Similar to the 0 to+10V method of control only limited to +5V.

So those of you with Analog dimming should be able to interface directly without the controller but you would have to make sure you did not exceed 5V.

Dennis

bhazard451 · 03/09/2013, 11:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dartier

OK, Roberto from Reefangel has determined how this pump is being controlled. The VA line is using a 0 to +5V Analog signal to control the speed. Similar to the 0 to+10V method of control only limited to +5V.

So those of you with Analog dimming should be able to interface directly without the controller but you would have to make sure you did not exceed 5V.

Dennis

That kind of screws everyone with PWM, an arduino, or an Apex with 0-10v. No wonder I couldn't get it working at all with pwm. Analog dimming usually requires a + and - wire, so I wonder how it could be hooked up.

I want to keep the wave modes on the controller working, so it seems that the 0-10v PWM module Floyd has is the only option.

dartier · 03/10/2013, 12:09 AM

Not really. You can generate an analog signal using a PWM output by using a low pass filter. In fact after hearing this news I went and looked at the photo of the controller board that Ron posted again and it is using a low pass filter to convert PWM to analog for the signal it is providing.

For the Apex, just do not exceed 50% (5V) and you will be fine.

For the Arduino, use a low pass filter.

For the Reefangel with a 10V PWM signal, both would apply, use a low pass filter and do not exceed 50% (5V).

However you should use a meter to double check what % the cut off (5V) actually is.

Dennis

jedidog1 · 03/10/2013, 12:15 AM

actually i think Arduino pwm is 5volt
http://arduino.cc/en/Tutorial/PWM

dartier · 03/10/2013, 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by jedidog1

actually i think Arduino pwm is 5volt
http://arduino.cc/en/Tutorial/PWM

Yep an Arduino is 5V. For that you can use http://provideyourown.com/2011/analo...wm-to-voltage/

The Reefangel uses a PWM that is boosted to 10V for compatibility with Meanwell and other drivers so you would have to take some care not to exceed 5V on the output.

Dennis

amutti · 03/10/2013, 08:22 AM

A video is coming....
My tank is a 30"x30"x31" cube and one pump is doing a fine job moving water. My only complaint is that it is a bit loud this morning. It was reasonably quiet yesterday. I hope mine quiets down like Ron's did over a week or two. Other than that no complaints.

juldelf · 03/10/2013, 09:45 AM

can it be drive by a profilux controller ?

SeedlessOne · 03/10/2013, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by juldelf

can it be drive by a profilux controller ?

Pretty sure that is 0-10v as well.

SeedlessOne · 03/10/2013, 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dartier

Yep an Arduino is 5V. For that you can use http://provideyourown.com/2011/analo...wm-to-voltage/

The Reefangel uses a PWM that is boosted to 10V for compatibility with Meanwell and other drivers so you would have to take some care not to exceed 5V on the output.

Dennis

Dennis where can I buy a low pass filter? Can't seem to find one.

Or it may just be easier to make one? Looks very straight forward.

treetopflyn · 03/10/2013, 10:14 AM

So far mine is SUPER quite and making a nice little wave action on W1. I am just not sure it providing enough "flow" in the tank. I have never had a Wave maker so I don't know how to compare the "wave action" to actual "flow".

Previously I had 2 Korilla 750's on each side in the rear facing at each of other meeting in the back middle of the tank on 24/7. In the back top corners I had 2 Korilla 1400s pointing across the surface of the water meeting at the top middle front of the tank randomly alternating.

Right not I have removed the 1400s and installed the WP40 (slowed down to 15v)at the top back side shooting across the top middle of the tank towards the other side. Like I said I love the wave action it looks so much more natural. I am just not sure there is enough "flow" now.

Any tips or thoughts appreciated.

wgraham · 03/10/2013, 10:31 AM

ardunio also has analog out put 0 to 5 volt

03/09/2013, 06:28 PM	#781
ctlegacy Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Ft Myers, FL Posts: 163	Do you think you could splice the wires to run 2 pumps off one controller? __________________ Bigger is ALWAYS better.. Current Tank Info: 240g Tank, 260g Sump, I don't over feed them, they looked hungry! Current Tank Info: Mixed reef. Lots of clowns.

03/09/2013, 06:41 PM	#782
DavidinGA Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 2,393	Wouldn't it also stand a good chance of making the pump last longer with a voltage regulator and a lower power setting? Sent by Samsung Galaxy Note 2 and Tapatalk 2 __________________ Giant money pit, but it's a happy pit ;) Current tank: 6ft 210gal SPS, 3~eBay led boxes, 4~80w T5's, sro3000int, RW20's, Reef Angel, reactors, pumps, rocks, sand, yadda yadda yadda...

03/09/2013, 09:01 PM	#786
treetopflyn Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 1,580	Got mine today and started playing with it. DAMN this thing moved a LOT of water and is a LOT bigger than I expected. Might be too much for my 105 even with it dialed back. What mode are you all getting the back and forth motion with? __________________ 105 Gallon Reef Savvy (48"x 24"X 21") Glass Holes overflow, 29G sump, Mag 12 return, Reef Octopus 150, 2- Jebo WP-25s, Phosoban reactor, 2 Ai Sol Blue's controlled by Reef Angle Controller.

03/09/2013, 11:05 PM	#790
dartier Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Brampton, ON, Canada Posts: 958	OK, Roberto from Reefangel has determined how this pump is being controlled. The VA line is using a 0 to +5V Analog signal to control the speed. Similar to the 0 to+10V method of control only limited to +5V. So those of you with Analog dimming should be able to interface directly without the controller but you would have to make sure you did not exceed 5V. Dennis Last edited by dartier; 03/09/2013 at 11:05 PM. Reason: typo

03/10/2013, 10:14 AM	#799
treetopflyn Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 1,580	So far mine is SUPER quite and making a nice little wave action on W1. I am just not sure it providing enough "flow" in the tank. I have never had a Wave maker so I don't know how to compare the "wave action" to actual "flow". Previously I had 2 Korilla 750's on each side in the rear facing at each of other meeting in the back middle of the tank on 24/7. In the back top corners I had 2 Korilla 1400s pointing across the surface of the water meeting at the top middle front of the tank randomly alternating. Right not I have removed the 1400s and installed the WP40 (slowed down to 15v)at the top back side shooting across the top middle of the tank towards the other side. Like I said I love the wave action it looks so much more natural. I am just not sure there is enough "flow" now. Any tips or thoughts appreciated. __________________ 105 Gallon Reef Savvy (48"x 24"X 21") Glass Holes overflow, 29G sump, Mag 12 return, Reef Octopus 150, 2- Jebo WP-25s, Phosoban reactor, 2 Ai Sol Blue's controlled by Reef Angle Controller. Last edited by treetopflyn; 03/10/2013 at 10:33 AM.

03/09/2013, 04:16 PM	#776
serpent Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: GA Posts: 78	Got mine today. Now I just need to get off my butt and finish getting my tank setup. Sent from a tiny virtual keyboard using Tapatalk

03/09/2013, 04:49 PM	#778
WillM Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Roanoke, VA Posts: 663	Got mine today. Took out my 4 Korallia 1050s. I ordered a voltage regulator since I have a 75G tank, but I really don't need it. I have it on W1 and the knob cranked up and it doesn't come close to splashing out of the tank. If the knob is set to midways then it does get kind of splashy. I don't know that I'll use the voltage regulator. I will say that it has raised all kinds of mulm that the steady stream of the Korallias wasn't able to keep suspended. I put a filter sock on my overflow for the first time in a long time. I cleaned the Korallias, and may put one of them back in but it will be nice to only have two pumps in the tank.

03/09/2013, 08:43 PM	#783
fltekdiver Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Posts: 1,533	I have a 120 gallon tank, 48" long 24" wide. 25" high Should I order one or two of these? Or should I order the 25's when they come out to go with the 40 ?

03/09/2013, 08:50 PM	#784
Skinnysloth Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: La Habra, CA Posts: 252	Another observation. The 120w variable power supply from Amazon linked earlier in this thread has a built in fan. The fan annoyingly ramps up and down in correlation to the pump's speed. For those of us who are more sensitive to noise, that power supply will be another, albeit small, source of noise. I have since switched back to the original power supply. The flow in W2 mode with the wave interval set at the lowest setting does not over power my 48x20x20 tank. It all depends on the location of the pump and your aquascape.

03/09/2013, 08:54 PM	#785
fltekdiver Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Posts: 1,533	Do I need one pump or two? See post above

03/09/2013, 09:09 PM	#787
fltekdiver Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Posts: 1,533	Just pre ordered one !

03/10/2013, 12:09 AM	#792
dartier Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Brampton, ON, Canada Posts: 958	Not really. You can generate an analog signal using a PWM output by using a low pass filter. In fact after hearing this news I went and looked at the photo of the controller board that Ron posted again and it is using a low pass filter to convert PWM to analog for the signal it is providing. For the Apex, just do not exceed 50% (5V) and you will be fine. For the Arduino, use a low pass filter. For the Reefangel with a 10V PWM signal, both would apply, use a low pass filter and do not exceed 50% (5V). However you should use a meter to double check what % the cut off (5V) actually is. Dennis

03/10/2013, 12:15 AM	#793
jedidog1 Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: celina, ohio Posts: 169	actually i think Arduino pwm is 5volt http://arduino.cc/en/Tutorial/PWM

03/10/2013, 08:22 AM	#795
amutti Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: MA Posts: 357	A video is coming.... My tank is a 30"x30"x31" cube and one pump is doing a fine job moving water. My only complaint is that it is a bit loud this morning. It was reasonably quiet yesterday. I hope mine quiets down like Ron's did over a week or two. Other than that no complaints.

03/10/2013, 09:45 AM	#796
juldelf Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: France Posts: 85	can it be drive by a profilux controller ?

03/10/2013, 10:31 AM	#800
wgraham Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 292	ardunio also has analog out put 0 to 5 volt