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[snorvich]

Originally Posted by babyboi315

i have a 125 gallon, FOWLR. 2-90 HOB filters, 1- CPR backpak2 protein skimmer, 150*lbs live rock, 1" sand bed.

stocked currently i have:
5- cardinal fish (2")
1- ocellaris clown (3")
1- yellow tang (4")
4- damsels (1-2")
1- pseudo thing, yellow and pink (3")
1- snowflake morray eel (8-9")
1- anemone
1- watchman goby
crabs, snails various sizes and types
1- chocolate chip sea star (4")
1- skunk cleaner shrimp
1- serpent star fish

sorry, I do not provide analysis of aggressive fish tanks but we have a forum that can be found here.

i need to know about my additional stocking:
1- flame angel
1- coral beauty angel
1- blue hippo tang needs an 8 foot 240 gallon tank


would these do fine in my tank or is the bioload too much? is there too many fish? will the tangs fight with anything? please help, thank you in advance.

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by phantomg

Hi, I have a 55g with a 20g sump, about 40 pounds of live rock and an inch or so of live sand. I currently have 3 chromis, a pair of clowns, a few hermit crabs and snails. Right now I have no corals although I do want to add at some point. I have wanted to get a blue tang and yellow tang but from what I've read I believe my tank is too small. that is correct. The local people I've talked to say that the fish won't grow larger than aquarium will allow but I don't want to just stress them out. Is it really not advisable to get those types of fish? The Reef Central Recommendation for tank size for tangs can be found here.

Thanks

[phantomg]

Thanks, I appreciate it.

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by den75

I have a 150G tank(Running about 7 months) that currently houses an Orchid dottyback, Gold Midas Blenny and a pair of occelaris clowns. Have about 8 corals, mostly softies/LPS and one acro. Also have two Scarlet Skunk Cleaner Shrimp(Bonded Pair). Can I add a bonded pair of Blood Red Fire Shrimp?

From a fish perspective, which is what this thread is about, there is no problem. In general, the two pairs of shrimp should coexist. I have done it, albeit in larger tanks.

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by phantomg

Thanks, I appreciate it.

By the way, it is not fish size that is relevant, it is fish maturity and their current (at that level of maturity) needs for territory. Those folks that talk about fish size with regard to tank size as the determining factor need to understand a bit more about the dynamics of fish behavior.

[phantomg]

So the fish in question are territorial and I need to look for fish that are less so?

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by phantomg

So the fish in question are territorial and I need to look for fish that are less so?

Both P. hepatus and Zebrasoma flavescens are territorial. What is worse, is that once established, tangs which are highly territorial (such as zebrasoma tangs) will not allow introduction of many fish that they perceive as conspecific. Some of the larger tangs, while huge, are less territorial, but they would not do well in less than an 8 foot tank. Think about a 15-18 inch fish in a four foot or even six foot tank and you will realize that it would not look good nor be good for the fish.

[phantomg]

Again, I appreciate your help. Thanks.

[AussieReef400]

Thanks for that, do you think i'd be able to home a long nose butterfly fish? I think it would get too big wouldn't it? Thanks again.

[Erik2514]

I have a 36g bowfront with two black and white ocellaris... What would be other fish I could add that would give color to the tank but are reeef friendly and would not stress my clowns out....I also want a shrimp/ goby pair but don't know which pair would be good

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by AussieReef400

Thanks for that, do you think i'd be able to home a long nose butterfly fish? I think it would get too big wouldn't it? Thanks again.

Please provide tank size and stocking list. I do thousands of these and have a poor memory., Thanks.

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by Erik2514

I have a 36g bowfront with two black and white ocellaris... What would be other fish I could add that would give color to the tank but are reeef friendly and would not stress my clowns out....I also want a shrimp/ goby pair but don't know which pair would be good

A shrimp goby pair would do fine; pick a commensal goby based on what appeals to you and pair with an alpheus randal pistol shrimp. As those who follow this thread know, I do not provide suggestions for a variety of reasons. I would be happy to reevaluate any stocking list you provide however provided you also provide tank size.

[fisheater]

I guess this is the proper place to post this. I would like to add a urchin to my tank. I am open to type/species of urchin. I have hard and soft corals, 2 clowns, 2 kromis, 3 damsils, and a decorator crab. I have herd that urchins will bulldoze your liverock and coral. Most of my rock is pretty well fastened down with tubing running through it with the exception of a few pieces on the sand bed. I also plan on adding a tang (not sure what kind yet) and a dwarf angel.
Any particular urchin I should look for or avoid?

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by fisheater

I guess this is the proper place to post this. I would like to add a urchin to my tank. I am open to type/species of urchin. I have hard and soft corals, 2 clowns, 2 kromis, 3 damsils, and a decorator crab. I have herd that urchins will bulldoze your liverock and coral. Most of my rock is pretty well fastened down with tubing running through it with the exception of a few pieces on the sand bed. I also plan on adding a tang (not sure what kind yet) and a dwarf angel.
Any particular urchin I should look for or avoid?

This thread is about marine fish compatibility. For questions about urchins, try putting a thread in the invertebrate forum which can be found here. .

[Enki]

Hi, I am in the process of setting up a new 93 gallon tank. The tank is: bare bottom, will be stocked with sps corals 20 gallon sump 85 pounds live rock. I have some fish that are new and will be adding fish from a 7 year old display.

2 small Picasso Percula Clownfish (Amphiprion percula) -- in display tank 2 weeks
3 medium sized Bartlett's Anthias (Pseudanthias bartlettorum)-- in display tank 3 weeks
1 ORA® Randall's Assessor (Assessor randalli) less than 1 inch -- coming out of QT will be moved to display

I would like to add the following fish
2 or 3 Randall's Assessor (still need to purchase and will be less than 1 inch )
1 Yellow Tang - Hawaii (Zebrasoma flavescens) will be moved from old display
1 Sailfin Tang (Zebrasoma veliferum) will be moved from old display

1 Mystery wrasse he is in old display tank he did not bother the Picasso clownfish which were added a few years after mystery wrasse was established in old display tank. Mystery wrasse did go after small Bartlett Anthias added recently to old display. Small Bartlett were removed in less than 2 hours and given to a friend when Mystery showed aggression. Mystery wrasse was housed with the tangs and Picassos previously, they go along well. I am thinking he will be fine with the medium sized anthias which are closer to his size, 80% to 95% his size, and already in the new display tank. Planning to add tangs than assessors than Mystery wrasse last.
Will this work?
any issues?

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by Enki

Hi, I am in the process of setting up a new 93 gallon tank. The tank is: bare bottom, will be stocked with sps corals 20 gallon sump 85 pounds live rock. I have some fish that are new and will be adding fish from a 7 year old display.

2 small Picasso Percula Clownfish (Amphiprion percula) -- in display tank 2 weeks
3 medium sized Bartlett's Anthias (Pseudanthias bartlettorum)-- in display tank 3 weeks
1 ORA® Randall's Assessor (Assessor randalli) less than 1 inch -- coming out of QT will be moved to display

I would like to add the following fish
2 or 3 Randall's Assessor (still need to purchase and will be less than 1 inch ) more than one will not work
1 Yellow Tang - Hawaii (Zebrasoma flavescens) will be moved from old display needs a larger tank
1 Sailfin Tang (Zebrasoma veliferum) will be moved from old display needs a much larger tank

1 Mystery wrasse he is in old display tank he did not bother the Picasso clownfish which were added a few years after mystery wrasse was established in old display tank. Mystery wrasse did go after small Bartlett Anthias added recently to old display. If he did not like them, he will not like other anthias; mystery wrasses are on the aggressive side towards similars (or those perceived as similars)


Small Bartlett were removed in less than 2 hours and given to a friend when Mystery showed aggression. Mystery wrasse was housed with the tangs and Picassos previously, they go along well. I am thinking he will be fine with the medium sized anthias which are closer to his size, 80% to 95% his size, and already in the new display tank. Planning to add tangs than assessors than Mystery wrasse last.
Will this work? see comments above
any issues?

[Enki]

Thanks
regarding the Randall's Assessor I was looking at an article by advanced aquarist stating they can be kept singly or in groups if I tried to keep a group what do you think outcome would be?
regarding the tangs I have had them in my old 90 gallon display for 5-6 years what are possible issues in the new display?
if not a mystery wrasse would a lineatus wrasse work in this display?
what is the smallest size of tank for the mystery wrasse if I move him to other tank?

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by Enki

Thanks
regarding the Randall's Assessor I was looking at an article by advanced aquarist stating they can be kept singly or in groups if I tried to keep a group what do you think outcome would be?

If you know how to sex them you can keep a single male and multiple females if introduced concurrently. Two males will not coexist

regarding the tangs I have had them in my old 90 gallon display for 5-6 years what are possible issues in the new display? They mature, become aggressive, and start trying to reduce what they perceive to be a crowding situation. Reef Central provides a recommended tank size for tangs which you can use or not use at your discretion.
if not a mystery wrasse would a lineatus wrasse work in this display? C. lineatus is not aggressive in the slightest
what is the smallest size of tank for the mystery wrasse if I move him to other tank? Approximately 60 gallons; remember they hunt for live food so they cannot go with a conspecific in the same ecological niche.

[Erik2514]

Would you be able to house a spotted or green mandarin with a goby in a 36g bowfront?

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by Erik2514

Would you be able to house a spotted or green mandarin with a goby in a 36g bowfront?

No. Mandarins, while eating frozen, the vast majority of the time, eat constantly and are unable to compete for supplied food with tankmates.

[hkgar]

Current tank a 180 gallon with Yellow Tang, Kole Tang, Powder Blue Tang, Spot Breated Angel, Yellow Pyramid Butterfly, Bi Color Dottyback, Orchid Dottyback, Purple Dottyback and Lyretail Anthias.

Would love to add a female Bellus angel, but with the cost I need some reassurance. Every thing in the tank gets along, although periodically the Purple Dottyback likes to show she is the boss of the Bicolor and Orchid.

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by hkgar

Current tank a 180 gallon with Yellow Tang, Kole Tang, Powder Blue Tang, Spot Breated Angel, Yellow Pyramid Butterfly, Bi Color Dottyback, Orchid Dottyback, Purple Dottyback and Lyretail Anthias.

Would love to add a female Bellus angel, but with the cost I need some reassurance. Every thing in the tank gets along, although periodically the Purple Dottyback likes to show she is the boss of the Bicolor and Orchid.

The yellow tang and possibly the powder blue tang may not allow introduction of this fish. I would say the odds are at best 25% and that would assume introduction just before lights out.

[Deep Reef]

I have a 120g DT reef tank with 40g sump

Currently I have:
(1) Kole tang
(1) YWG
(1) Kaudern's cardinal
(1) Midas Blenny
(2) True Perc clowns

Currently in my QT (1 week old) I have:
(1) Black cap basslet
(1) One spot Foxface
(1) Leopard wrasse (Macropharyngodon meleagris) female

I was thinking of adding a male leopard wrasse of the same type and maybe 3 chromas.

Your thoughts?

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by Deep Reef

I have a 120g DT reef tank with 40g sump

Currently I have:
(1) Kole tang
(1) YWG
(1) Kaudern's cardinal
(1) Midas Blenny
(2) True Perc clowns

Currently in my QT (1 week old) I have:
(1) Black cap basslet
(1) One spot Foxface
(1) Leopard wrasse (Macropharyngodon meleagris) female

I was thinking of adding a male leopard wrasse of the same type and maybe 3 chromas.

How old is your display tank? First three chromis will become one over time. I would suggest that you get a few months experience with the existing leopard wrasse (they are expert level fish) and I would not try and pair it up as the males are difficult to find, and may or may not cause the female to turn to male. Also, do you have sand in your quarantine tank?

Your thoughts?

[Deep Reef]

My original display was 1 year old but I just transfered all into the new 120 with the exception of the sand. That is all new except for a couple of cups to seed.

didn't have sand in the QT but after reading I am adding today.

As always thanks for your advice