N/P reducing pellets (solid vodka dosing) - Page 33

dcforester1 · 02/26/2010, 11:12 PM

Do you have to rinse before using? how much do you use per gallon?

tntneon · 02/27/2010, 03:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dcforester1

Do you have to rinse before using? how much do you use per gallon?

I definitly rinse them , there is some powder polymer that sticks on the surface off the pellets.
500ml/100G recommended , but you can slowly increase that amount to almost doubble (1L / 100G ) but that would be more expensive.

greetingzz tntneon

tcollins · 02/28/2010, 07:21 AM

Getting ready to run these with a Little Fishey Reactor. Wondering what pump everyone is using? Read earlier that Mag 3's are being used, must be a large reactor as the pellets don't seem that heavy. Thanks!

Plato · 02/28/2010, 10:57 AM

I'm using a maxijet 1200. I have a 65 gallon tank skimmed by an old turbofloter 1000 ran by the pump, I just put the reactor in line. Running 250ml of pellets for now. I'll try to get a pic up soon.

euromomtx · 02/28/2010, 12:10 PM

Hm. I started out with a very small pump and I think it allowed the pellets to kind of cake together with the bacteria goop.
I now have the plastic canvas mesh and a Mag 3 in a MR1 Nextreef reactor. It lifts the pellet mass as a whole towards the top but I don't see any movement of the separate pellets.
I even stirred them up in case they were sticking together.
I am not sure what to expect. The Aquarium Specialty people posted a link to a reactor that has the pellets tumbling around pretty good as the ideal'.
When I contacted Jean Paul Klooster to see what flow was required he said 500l/h should be enough for most applications (that's a third of what I actually have with the mag 3!) and that they don't need to tumble.
Could somebody that's already been working with the pellets for awhile enlighten me about how this is supposed to look like?
Is the bacteria goop supposed to stick to the pellets or get washed off?

tcollins · 02/28/2010, 01:05 PM

Just picked up a Little Fishey's reactor and wondering what kind of flow that others are running through them. I saw on the previous page, others are running a Mag 3 and kind of figure they have a much larger reactor. The pellets don't seem so heavy that in the LF Reactor, I'm afraid I'd blow the output rubber fitting off. Looking for idea's, thanks!

kaskiles · 02/28/2010, 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by euromomtx

It lifts the pellet mass as a whole towards the top but I don't see any movement of the separate pellets.

I believe you have too much flow for that reactor diameter and media charge. Make sure your reactor has some empty space at the top before the outlet screen, maybe 1/4 of the total length. Then put a ball valve on the outlet of your pump and choke way back until everything falls to the bottom. Now gently open the valve until the top layer of media is just dancing around.

rutz81 · 03/01/2010, 06:08 AM

Any pictures of tanks running the pellets? Preferably SPS tank?

tcollins · 03/01/2010, 07:17 PM

I don't recall reading anywhere in this thread that skimmer production dropped immediately after starting the pellets, but I'm having fits keeping my skimmer foam level constant. Did anyone notice a reduced skimmer production the first few weeks of introducing the pellets?

NyReefNoob · 03/01/2010, 07:50 PM

ok i will ask again, any idea's how letting light on the pellets will effect the bacteria populations ?

DJREEF · 03/01/2010, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by NyReefNoob

ok i will ask again, any idea's how letting light on the pellets will effect the bacteria populations ?

You'd prob get alot of cyano and other mixed algaes growing in it.

DJ

Fieroguy19 · 03/02/2010, 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tcollins

I don't recall reading anywhere in this thread that skimmer production dropped immediately after starting the pellets, but I'm having fits keeping my skimmer foam level constant. Did anyone notice a reduced skimmer production the first few weeks of introducing the pellets?

When I first added them to my tank the skimmer production dropped for about two weeks. It is now back to normal.

frank40 · 03/03/2010, 01:30 PM

I just set up a Geo 420 media reactor with 2 liters of BP. I t'd off my return to feed the reactor but there is no info on regards to the amount of flow needed. i have roughly about 100gph running through it now and the BP are settled in the reactor. Do i need to bump up the flow?

stumpyid · 03/03/2010, 03:03 PM

After a couple of weeks of running the pellets is seems the skimmer nog is extra nasty.

coffeenut · 03/03/2010, 03:58 PM

I set up a MRC FMC-627
http://www.myreefcreations.com/image...627%2010x6.jpg
last night, i have A LOT of flow "T" ed off my return and no tumbling.. gonna add the bigger return pump in a while.. and we will see..

my skimmer has increased the ammount of output dramaticly over the last 3 weeks since i have been running the pellets.
BTW i have 4000 grams of pellets (4-1000 bags) in my reactor

coffeenut · 03/03/2010, 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by coffeenut

I set up a MRC FMC-627
http://www.myreefcreations.com/image...627%2010x6.jpg
last night, i have A LOT of flow "T" ed off my return and no tumbling.. gonna add the bigger return pump in a while.. and we will see..

my skimmer has increased the ammount of output dramaticly over the last 3 weeks since i have been running the pellets.
BTW i have 4000 grams of pellets (4-1000 bags) in my reactor

ok update.. i now have enough flow to make the 4000g tumble... with my new return pump http://www.premiumaquatics.com/Merch..._Code=Panworld ...( extra 500 gph and 100w more electricity..)

tcollins · 03/03/2010, 07:10 PM

Thanks for the responses on the skimmer production. I have a very very low nutrient load and between that and introducing the pellets, I was concerned.

tcollins · 03/04/2010, 07:30 PM

I'm pleased to say that after running the pellets for 4 days, my skimmer is producing. It may be that even though I rinsed the pellets as recommended, maybe the powder was enough to change the chemistry of the water, slowing the skimmer.

frank40 · 03/06/2010, 12:29 PM

my skimmer output slowed down a bit but after 5 days now, my filter socks are clogged every day.

daveonbass · 03/07/2010, 11:49 AM

I hate todo this so don't flame me, but I just CAN'T find the time to read all these past pages...(at work :P)

But are these pellets working for any/everyone. I'm really thinking of taking the plunge. But I just wanna know how long before results...and is it sustainable?

thanks in advance...

(p.s. simple "yes/no" is fine, but feel free to expalin if you feel like typing)

bobharley · 03/07/2010, 02:26 PM

So far good for me. Coral are on the mends....Do it It worked for me....

Oldude · 03/07/2010, 03:40 PM

I would love to see some before & after pictures from some of those using this product.

pfish · 03/07/2010, 09:00 PM

Can they just be placed in a trickle filter?

Frogmanx82 · 03/07/2010, 09:08 PM

I have been running the pellets in a 90 gallon mixed reef since December. Check my home thread for tank details.

I can't tell that they are doing anything only because my nitrates are zero and phosphates 0.01 or less. I had a phosphate problem and put in GFO at the same time as the pellets. GFO has been out of the tank for about a month and phosphates are still nearly zero.

Are these pellets dependent on skimmers like other carbon dosing. Would they do anything for a freshwater tank with no skimmer?

Luckylouse · 03/07/2010, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by rutz81

Any pictures of tanks running the pellets? Preferably SPS tank?

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Not sure if this really proves anything but here's a little info...

I just upgraded to this tank 5 days ago and I've been running NB Pellets for 5 weeks prior. Before using them I had Cyano issues. Just before I upgraded my system the Cyano was all but gone. 5 days into this tank and everything is looking good.
Here's a link to m y tank build.
http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1804039

02/28/2010, 10:57 AM	#804
Plato Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: NC Posts: 638	I'm using a maxijet 1200. I have a 65 gallon tank skimmed by an old turbofloter 1000 ran by the pump, I just put the reactor in line. Running 250ml of pellets for now. I'll try to get a pic up soon. __________________ Genesis 2:28 God blessed them and said to them,"Rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air and over every living creature that moves on the ground." Current Tank Info: 275 starphire, 3 x 400 watt MH + 4 x 80 watt T5's, 2 x MP 60 + 2 x MP 40, Orca 250 skimmer, CADS filter head (SeaVisions), ProCal Ca reactor, GHL controlled.

02/28/2010, 12:10 PM	#805
euromomtx Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 742 Blog Entries: 3	Hm. I started out with a very small pump and I think it allowed the pellets to kind of cake together with the bacteria goop. I now have the plastic canvas mesh and a Mag 3 in a MR1 Nextreef reactor. It lifts the pellet mass as a whole towards the top but I don't see any movement of the separate pellets. I even stirred them up in case they were sticking together. I am not sure what to expect. The Aquarium Specialty people posted a link to a reactor that has the pellets tumbling around pretty good as the ideal'. When I contacted Jean Paul Klooster to see what flow was required he said 500l/h should be enough for most applications (that's a third of what I actually have with the mag 3!) and that they don't need to tumble. Could somebody that's already been working with the pellets for awhile enlighten me about how this is supposed to look like? Is the bacteria goop supposed to stick to the pellets or get washed off? __________________ Karin Current Tank Info: 215g Caribbean Inspired Reef with Shadowbox

03/01/2010, 07:50 PM	#810
NyReefNoob skimmer freak Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: peekskill, ny Posts: 1,209	ok i will ask again, any idea's how letting light on the pellets will effect the bacteria populations ? __________________ custom 45g cube all in one, ai hydra 26, 2 mp10w, ac jr. ,bubble magnus triple doser, bm nac5 hob skimmer My dad always said the only stupid questions are the ones not asked Current Tank Info: custom 45g cube AIO

03/03/2010, 03:03 PM	#814
stumpyid Premium Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Boise, Idaho Posts: 87	After a couple of weeks of running the pellets is seems the skimmer nog is extra nasty. __________________ 250g braceless Starphire, custom cherry stand, 400w Radiums x 3, LumenMax 2 w/Galaxy ballast, Cree actenics, Super Dart Gold pump, APEX Gold & WAV, Bubble King SM250, Deltec PF601 Ca, Precision Marine

03/07/2010, 11:49 AM	#820
daveonbass Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: texarkana, TX Posts: 1,364	I hate todo this so don't flame me, but I just CAN'T find the time to read all these past pages...(at work :P) But are these pellets working for any/everyone. I'm really thinking of taking the plunge. But I just wanna know how long before results...and is it sustainable? thanks in advance... (p.s. simple "yes/no" is fine, but feel free to expalin if you feel like typing) __________________ dave Current Tank Info: 58g reef, 60 total gallons including rocks and sand, 36" 6 bulb ATI Powermodule, DAS skimmer, Bio pellets, 2 MP10 vortechs

02/26/2010, 11:12 PM	#801
dcforester1 Registered Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Boston Posts: 468	Do you have to rinse before using? how much do you use per gallon?

02/28/2010, 07:21 AM	#803
tcollins Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Lansdale, PA Posts: 250	Getting ready to run these with a Little Fishey Reactor. Wondering what pump everyone is using? Read earlier that Mag 3's are being used, must be a large reactor as the pellets don't seem that heavy. Thanks!

02/28/2010, 01:05 PM	#806
tcollins Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Lansdale, PA Posts: 250	Just picked up a Little Fishey's reactor and wondering what kind of flow that others are running through them. I saw on the previous page, others are running a Mag 3 and kind of figure they have a much larger reactor. The pellets don't seem so heavy that in the LF Reactor, I'm afraid I'd blow the output rubber fitting off. Looking for idea's, thanks!

03/01/2010, 06:08 AM	#808
rutz81 Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: New Jersey Posts: 1,779	Any pictures of tanks running the pellets? Preferably SPS tank?

03/01/2010, 07:17 PM	#809
tcollins Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Lansdale, PA Posts: 250	I don't recall reading anywhere in this thread that skimmer production dropped immediately after starting the pellets, but I'm having fits keeping my skimmer foam level constant. Did anyone notice a reduced skimmer production the first few weeks of introducing the pellets?

03/03/2010, 01:30 PM	#813
frank40 Premium Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: nyc Posts: 125	I just set up a Geo 420 media reactor with 2 liters of BP. I t'd off my return to feed the reactor but there is no info on regards to the amount of flow needed. i have roughly about 100gph running through it now and the BP are settled in the reactor. Do i need to bump up the flow?

03/03/2010, 03:58 PM	#815
coffeenut Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Schaumburg, Il Posts: 209	I set up a MRC FMC-627 http://www.myreefcreations.com/image...627%2010x6.jpg last night, i have A LOT of flow "T" ed off my return and no tumbling.. gonna add the bigger return pump in a while.. and we will see.. my skimmer has increased the ammount of output dramaticly over the last 3 weeks since i have been running the pellets. BTW i have 4000 grams of pellets (4-1000 bags) in my reactor

03/03/2010, 07:10 PM	#817
tcollins Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Lansdale, PA Posts: 250	Thanks for the responses on the skimmer production. I have a very very low nutrient load and between that and introducing the pellets, I was concerned.

03/04/2010, 07:30 PM	#818
tcollins Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Lansdale, PA Posts: 250	I'm pleased to say that after running the pellets for 4 days, my skimmer is producing. It may be that even though I rinsed the pellets as recommended, maybe the powder was enough to change the chemistry of the water, slowing the skimmer.

03/06/2010, 12:29 PM	#819
frank40 Premium Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: nyc Posts: 125	my skimmer output slowed down a bit but after 5 days now, my filter socks are clogged every day.

03/07/2010, 02:26 PM	#821
bobharley Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Lafayette,LA Posts: 13	So far good for me. Coral are on the mends....Do it It worked for me....

03/07/2010, 03:40 PM	#822
Oldude Premium Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Calgary, Canada Posts: 4,479	I would love to see some before & after pictures from some of those using this product. __________________ ______________________ Greg ~ June 2015 TOTM ~ ~ April 2010 TOTM ~

03/07/2010, 09:00 PM	#823
pfish Premium Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Seattle Posts: 289	Can they just be placed in a trickle filter?

03/07/2010, 09:08 PM	#824
Frogmanx82 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 1,515	I have been running the pellets in a 90 gallon mixed reef since December. Check my home thread for tank details. I can't tell that they are doing anything only because my nitrates are zero and phosphates 0.01 or less. I had a phosphate problem and put in GFO at the same time as the pellets. GFO has been out of the tank for about a month and phosphates are still nearly zero. Are these pellets dependent on skimmers like other carbon dosing. Would they do anything for a freshwater tank with no skimmer? __________________ Exodus 8:2 Check my homepage for tank pics and details. Current Tank Info: 90 gallon, 2x maxspect R420R LED, 4 Ocellaris Clowns, Yellow Eye Kole Tang, Flame Angel, Foxface Rabbitfish, Banggai Cardinals, Azure Damsel, rock flower anemone, cleaner shrimp, serpent star