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Unread 12/16/2013, 08:54 AM   #8376
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Revised list for 60g.

1x Royal gramma
1x Ocellris clown
1x starcki damsel
1x orange strip goby
1x Longfin fairy wrasse OR McCoskers Flasher wrasse
The flasher wrasse will be less aggressive but otherwise fine


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Unread 12/16/2013, 03:29 PM   #8377
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240 Gallon 6 foot tank, 90 Gallon Sump, Mixed Reef Tank.

Tank now contains:
a pair of skunk cleaner shrimp
A pair of blood red fire shrimp
6 pepermint shrimp
Assorted snails

Want to add:
1M 1F Nemarteleotris decora Purple Firefish
1 Ptereleotris heteroptera Blue Gudgeon Dartfish
1 Wetmorella tanakai Pygmy Wrasse
1 Wetmorella albofasciata White Banded Possum Wrasse
1 Wetmorella nigropinnata Yellow Banded Possum Wrasse
1 Gramma loreto Royal gramma
1M 4F Nemanthias carberryi Carberryi Anthias
5 Pseudanthias pulcherrimus Resplendent Anthias
1 Paracheilinus mccoskeri McCosker's Flasher Wrasse
1 Cirrhilabrus exquisitus Exquisite Fairy Wrasse
1 Cirrhilabrus aurantidorsalis Orange-Back Fairy Wrasse
5 Sphaeramia nematoptera Spotted Cardinalfish
1M 1F Pterapogon kauderni Banggai Cardinalfish
1M 1F Genicanthus bellus Bellus Angelfish
1 Ctenochaetus hawaiiensis Chevron Tang
1 Gobiodon atrangulatus Clown Goby, Green
1 Ophioblennius atlanticus Red-lipped Blenny
1 Ecsenius bicolor Bicolor Blenny
1 Cryptocentrus cinctus Yellow Prawn Goby paired with Pistol Shrimp
1 Ctenogobiops tangaroai Tangaroa Goby paired with Pistol Shrimp
1 Stonogobiops nematodes Hi Fin Red Banded Goby paired with Pistol Shrimp
1M 1F Synchiropus splendidus Spotted Mandarin
2 Alpheus soror Bullseye Snapping Shrimp

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Unread 12/16/2013, 03:39 PM   #8378
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240 Gallon 6 foot tank, 90 Gallon Sump, Mixed Reef Tank.

Tank now contains:
a pair of skunk cleaner shrimp
A pair of blood red fire shrimp
6 pepermint shrimp
Assorted snails

Want to add:
1M 1F Nemarteleotris decora Purple Firefish IF you can sex them, that is fine, otherwise you are likely to end up with only one
1 Ptereleotris heteroptera Blue Gudgeon Dartfish
1 Wetmorella tanakai Pygmy Wrasse
1 Wetmorella albofasciata White Banded Possum Wrasse
1 Wetmorella nigropinnata Yellow Banded Possum Wrasse
1 Gramma loreto Royal gramma
1M 4F Nemanthias carberryi Carberryi Anthias
5 Pseudanthias pulcherrimus Resplendent Anthias
1 Paracheilinus mccoskeri McCosker's Flasher Wrasse
1 Cirrhilabrus exquisitus Exquisite Fairy Wrasse
1 Cirrhilabrus aurantidorsalis Orange-Back Fairy Wrasse
5 Sphaeramia nematoptera Spotted Cardinalfish
1M 1F Pterapogon kauderni Banggai Cardinalfish
1M 1F Genicanthus bellus Bellus Angelfish males are difficult shippers and a pair must be added concurrently
1 Ctenochaetus hawaiiensis Chevron Tang
1 Gobiodon atrangulatus Clown Goby, Green
1 Ophioblennius atlanticus Red-lipped Blenny
1 Ecsenius bicolor Bicolor Blenny
1 Cryptocentrus cinctus Yellow Prawn Goby paired with Pistol Shrimp
1 Ctenogobiops tangaroai Tangaroa Goby paired with Pistol Shrimp
1 Stonogobiops nematodes Hi Fin Red Banded Goby paired with Pistol Shrimp two shrimp gobies may or may not work in a six foot tank
1M 1F Synchiropus splendidus Spotted Mandarin
2 Alpheus soror Bullseye Snapping Shrimp these are non-commensal

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Unread 12/17/2013, 02:19 AM   #8379
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I still have to start from scratch. My tank hasn't been delivered for a week now. Im waiting on it before buying fish. But thanks a lot for this useful reference.


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Unread 12/17/2013, 05:28 AM   #8380
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I still have to start from scratch. My tank hasn't been delivered for a week now. Im waiting on it before buying fish. But thanks a lot for this useful reference.
Whenever you are ready . . .


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Unread 12/17/2013, 04:28 PM   #8381
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Sorry if this is the wrong place to ask but how many fish can I put in a 55 gallon tank? I want to run a reef tank with live rock and sand. I will use a refugium(20 gal) with a protein skimmer and UV light.


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Unread 12/17/2013, 04:30 PM   #8382
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Sorry if this is the wrong place to ask but how many fish can I put in a 55 gallon tank? I want to run a reef tank with live rock and sand. I will use a refugium(20 gal) with a protein skimmer and UV light.
That question is unanswerable. Depends on the behavior and other characteristics of the fish.


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Unread 12/17/2013, 05:39 PM   #8383
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There must be some kinda guide line as to about how many and what size. I want to have peaceful fish if that helps. How would some know? What just add fish and hope for the best? There must be a better way then that. I could come up with a list of fish I like if that works better.


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Unread 12/17/2013, 07:13 PM   #8384
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There must be some kinda guide line as to about how many and what size.

Actually, there isn't. It is, however, a commonly asked question for folks who are new to the hobby. And is the reason I have answered more than ten thousand of these type questions. I never provide recommendations or suggestions because it is important that each person develop the skills to research what fits their environment. However, fish behavior and mutual compatibility is not easily researched, hence the popularity of this thread. I will always be happy to reanalyze assuming you provide tank size, and stocking plan in total.

I want to have peaceful fish if that helps. How would some know? What just add fish and hope for the best? There must be a better way then that. I could come up with a list of fish I like if that works better.
The purpose of this thread is to provide an analysis of the long term compatibility of fish with each other and with the environment you are providing. Many people go to an online vendor, such as Dr. Foster and Smith Live Aquaria (one of our sponsors) and use the Marine Fish catalog as a source of information. And some people just wing it, but that can get expensive if the fish are not compatible. I always analyze assuming a peaceful tank is the desired outcome.


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Unread 12/17/2013, 07:27 PM   #8385
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My tank size is 55 gal. Not sure what you mean by stocking plan in total. I'm more then willing to look up info on fish but at what point do I stop. Let's say I find 15 fish that work well together how do I if I to many? Is it best for me to make a list and see if you think I have to many fish or can add more?



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Unread 12/17/2013, 07:30 PM   #8386
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My tank size is 55 gal. Not sure what you mean by stocking plan in total.
That means I expect you to research what fish you are interested in and come up with what you feel is a reasonable stocking plan for your 55 gallon tank. Also indicate whether you plan on a FOWLR or reef type tank.


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Unread 12/17/2013, 08:51 PM   #8387
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Ok
I'll work on it.


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Unread 12/17/2013, 09:04 PM   #8388
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180g mixed reef
Blue Tang
Yellow Tang
Sailfin Tang
Firefish
2 Ocellaris Clowns
Foxface Lo (fed a lot with plenty of nori/caulerpa in tank)
Green Mandarin (55g and 10g reefs with plenty of pods if I really need to bring more in, 180pounds of rock)
4 of a schooling fish (green chromis?)
1 Diamond Watchman Goby
1 Pistol Shrimp
1 Flame Angelfish
1 Whip-Fin Fairy Wrasse
1 cleaner shrimp
2 peppermint shrimp
2 coral banded shrimp


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Ok
I'll work on it.
Great, I will look forward to seeing your plan.


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Unread 12/17/2013, 10:18 PM   #8390
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180g mixed reef
Blue Tang needs a larger tank
Yellow Tang
Sailfin Tang needs a larger tank

In a six foot tank, it is unlikely to mix four grazers including three tangs long term. Tank length is much more important than tank volume

Firefish introduce early
2 Ocellaris Clowns
Foxface Lo (fed a lot with plenty of nori/caulerpa in tank)
Green Mandarin (55g and 10g reefs with plenty of pods if I really need to bring more in, 180pounds of rock)
4 of a schooling fish (green chromis?) no fish will school in this size tank; anthias will shoal; chromis will reduce their number to one over time
1 Diamond Watchman Goby
1 Pistol Shrimp
1 Flame Angelfish
1 Whip-Fin Fairy Wrasse on the aggressive side
1 cleaner shrimp
2 peppermint shrimp
2 coral banded shrimp for two, must be a bonded pair; they can take fish



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Unread 12/18/2013, 02:10 PM   #8391
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Thank you...this is a great thread and your knowledge of species and their interaction is incredible. Keep up the good work!


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Thank you...this is a great thread and your knowledge of species and their interaction is incredible. Keep up the good work!
Thanks. Feel free to check back with any fish compatibility questions.


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Unread 12/18/2013, 11:45 PM   #8393
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Help For A Noob

Hey guys,
This is my first post here and I was wondering on what fish I should get.
My (future) setup:
75 g tank
Fluval 205 canister filter
Hydro wave maker
Marineland double led 48" lights


As you can see it is not very complete. I am planning on a fowler tank, with "lots" of small fish, but I am open to any suggestion or criticism. If you think you can help me pick out some fish, additions/omittions of equipment, that would be great. Thanks for the help!!!


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Hey guys,
This is my first post here and I was wondering on what fish I should get.
My (future) setup:
75 g tank
Fluval 205 canister filter
Hydro wave maker
Marineland double led 48" lights


As you can see it is not very complete. I am planning on a fowler tank, with "lots" of small fish, but I am open to any suggestion or criticism. If you think you can help me pick out some fish, additions/omittions of equipment, that would be great. Thanks for the help!!!
While this thread is about marine fish compatibility, I do not provide suggestions or recommendations for a variety of reasons, not the least of which is that you need to develop research skills. However, if you provide a stocking list as well as tank size and maturity, I will be happy to analyze your plan for compatibility with each other and with the environment you will be providing. One source would be the Marine fish section of one of our sponsors, Dr. Foster and Smith Live Aquaria. That can be found here.


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75g reef
bh90 skimmer
112lbs live rock
70lbs of live sand
20g sump

1 Kole Yellow Eye Tang
3 PJ Cardinal
3 Royal Gramma (not sure if they can be in groups)
1 Coral Hawkfish
1 Coral Beauty
1 Carpenters Flasher Wrasse


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75g reef
bh90 skimmer
112lbs live rock
70lbs of live sand
20g sump

1 Kole Yellow Eye Tang introduce last
3 PJ Cardinal will pair off rather than shoal
3 Royal Gramma (not sure if they can be in groups) I would not try a "group" in this sized tank as they are very protective of their "perceived territory"
1 Coral Hawkfish very aggressive; will eat small fish and harass tankmates. I do NOT recommend this fish
1 Coral Beauty
1 Carpenters Flasher Wrasse



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55 gallon reef tank with a refugium and protein skimmer. Live rock and sand. I'm trying to set up a peaceful tank. No fish are in the tank.

Ocellaris Clownfish

Royal Gramma

Clown Goby Yellow

Blue Reef Chromis

Green Mandarin

Whip Fin Fairy Wrasse

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55 gallon reef tank with a refugium and protein skimmer. Live rock and sand. I'm trying to set up a peaceful tank. No fish are in the tank.

Ocellaris Clownfish

Royal Gramma

Clown Goby Yellow

Blue Reef Chromis

Green Mandarin very marginal in this tank size even when it matures; with a hang on refugium, it would probably work

Whip Fin Fairy Wrasse aggressive and needs a larger tank

Comical Blenny
bioload will be fine


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What if I put in a Waitei Anthias and Fire Fish Purple instead of the Green Mandarin and Whip Fin Fairy Wrasse with the same fish and set up.


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What if I put in a Waitei Anthias and Fire Fish Purple instead of the Green Mandarin and Whip Fin Fairy Wrasse with the same fish and set up.
A purple firefish would be fine and should be introduced early on as they are relatively timid. Any anthias needs a larger tank and requires multiple feedings per day.


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