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Unread 12/20/2013, 08:35 AM   #8401
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I am setting up a new 75 gallon reef using material from my existing 48 gallon reef that I have had for 15 years.

here is my stocking wish list: (I understand my tang will outgrow tank and I will be only his caretaker for a few years)

1. Yellow Tang OR Kole Tang
2. Foxface (How do I put my hand in the tank w/ him? I have kids?)
3. Fairy Wrasse
4/5 2 percula clowns
6 yellow goby
7 mandarin - (will wait to add him until new tank is established and will feed in addition to copods baby brine shrimp I will hatch for him)
8 blue spotted jawfish
9 Anthias - Ok this would be too many fish eh?

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Unread 12/20/2013, 09:10 AM   #8402
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My intended purchases

90 gallon with 30 gallon sump protein skimmer and refugium. 160 lbs live rock 2 inch sand bed. Fish only. Bought the tank used well established traded in previous livestock to afford myself some time to make changes to the setup. Live rock is being "stored" in heated saltwater cans with circulation pumps.

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Kole Tang

pair of OC Clowns

Yellow watchman goby and pistol shrimp

2 Benggai Cardinals

Bluespot butterfly

Perhaps a Wrasse if it can be supported not sure what kind.

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Unread 12/20/2013, 10:23 AM   #8403
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I have a Black & White Ocellaris Clownfish. only had for about a month.

Wanting to add more clown(s).

I would like to add 1 or 2 black Ice clowns or 1 or 2 Snowflake clowns.

Can I add 2 or will they become 2 if I have 3?

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Unread 12/20/2013, 11:16 AM   #8404
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New addition question

I have a 36g bowfront live rock sump with refugium skimmer and it's got LPS and zoa and 2 ocellaris right now... I want to add a court jester goby for looks and help with any algae that might arise. Will he be ok with the clowns and not bother them wen they become big enough to reproduce.


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Unread 12/20/2013, 03:28 PM   #8405
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I am setting up a new 75 gallon reef using material from my existing 48 gallon reef that I have had for 15 years.

here is my stocking wish list: (I understand my tang will outgrow tank and I will be only his caretaker for a few years)

1. Yellow Tang OR Kole Tang Reef Central Feels that you should buy only the fish you can keep. In this case the kole tang would work and the yellow would not
2. Foxface (How do I put my hand in the tank w/ him? I have kids?) they are not aggressive, but they are venomous
3. Fairy Wrasse which species?
4/5 2 percula clowns
6 yellow goby
7 mandarin - (will wait to add him until new tank is established and will feed in addition to copods baby brine shrimp I will hatch for him)
8 blue spotted jawfish needs lower temperatures for optimal results
9 Anthias - Ok this would be too many fish eh? one anthias would work, but they do best with multiple feedings per day. More than one requires a larger tank because of their social nature

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Unread 12/20/2013, 03:29 PM   #8406
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I have a Black & White Ocellaris Clownfish. only had for about a month.

Wanting to add more clown(s).

I would like to add 1 or 2 black Ice clowns or 1 or 2 Snowflake clowns. you get one pair of clownfish of the same species (not necessarily the same morphological appearance

Can I add 2 or will they become 2 if I have 3?

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Unread 12/20/2013, 03:30 PM   #8407
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I have a 36g bowfront live rock sump with refugium skimmer and it's got LPS and zoa and 2 ocellaris right now... I want to add a court jester goby for looks and help with any algae that might arise. Will he be ok with the clowns and not bother them wen they become big enough to reproduce.
Should be no problem at all


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Unread 12/20/2013, 10:06 PM   #8408
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New updated list with changes

75g
skimmer
live rock 112lbs
live sand 70lbs

Coral Angel
Kole Yellow Eye Tang
Ocellaris Clownfish
Royal Gramma
McCoskers Flasher Wrasse
Carpenters Flasher Wrasse
Fox Face
Blue Hermit Crab (dont know how many to start out with)
Peppermint Shrimp (unsure on how many also)
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Unread 12/21/2013, 05:49 AM   #8409
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75g
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live rock 112lbs
live sand 70lbs

Coral Angel you are not going to be able to adequately sustain three grazers in a 75 gallon tank
Kole Yellow Eye Tang you are not going to be able to adequately sustain three grazers in a 75 gallon tank
Ocellaris Clownfish
Royal Gramma
McCoskers Flasher Wrasse
Carpenters Flasher Wrasse
Fox Face you are not going to be able to adequately sustain three grazers in a 75 gallon tank
Blue Hermit Crab (dont know how many to start out with)
Peppermint Shrimp (unsure on how many also)
Mexican Turbo snail
also, pick either snails or hermit crabs; crabs will kill the snails for their shells


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Unread 12/21/2013, 09:56 AM   #8410
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also, pick either snails or hermit crabs; crabs will kill the snails for their shells
Ill take fox face off list will i be able to add female wrasses or would i have to choose one male then. Or could i add another clown


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Unread 12/21/2013, 10:17 AM   #8411
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Ill take fox face off list will i be able to add female wrasses or would i have to choose one male then. Or could i add another clown
Another clown of the same species is doable as long as it is smaller than the existing clownfish. Wrasses do not occupy the same ecological niche as "grazers" so eliminating the foxface does not impact that. If it were me, I would add a male and female of the same species of flasher wrasse rather than one each of two species.


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Unread 12/21/2013, 10:19 AM   #8412
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I want to add some blue and yellow to my tank. I am thinking about a chromis or a damsel for the blue and don't have any ideas for yellow. no tangs please! I know damsels can be a pita but am unsure in a tank this size. Also must be coral/invert safe. My dwarfs are the only exception. I'm also looking for suggestions for a wrasse or two. I'm thinking about a pair of cleaner wrasse but would like to know if there are any other good choices.

What I have
4 Lyritail anthias
4 dispar anthias
3 flame angels
3 multicolor angel
2 royal gramma
1 Midas blenny
1 yellowhead pearly jawfish
15 firefish slowly trying to remove them

Future list
Blotched anthias pair
Fathead sunburst anthias several
Kauderns cardinalfish pair
Diamond watchman goby

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Unread 12/21/2013, 10:30 AM   #8413
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I want to add some blue and yellow to my tank. I am thinking about a chromis or a damsel

for blue coloration, damsels cannot be beaten and in your sized tank, probably would not be a problem. Springer damsel or Blue Devil damsels probably have the color you are looking for. (Mildly aggressive but not terribly so)

for the blue and don't have any ideas for yellow. no tangs please! I know damsels can be a pita but am unsure in a tank this size. Also must be coral/invert safe. My dwarfs are the only exception. I'm also looking for suggestions for a wrasse or two. I'm thinking about a pair of cleaner wrasse but would like to know if there are any other good choices.

cleaner wrasses, except those from Africa have a poor record of survival and you to not have fish that would readily become "clients". Note that cleaner wrasses do not have any effect on parasite control.

What I have
4 Lyritail anthias
4 dispar anthias
3 flame angels
3 multicolor angel
2 royal gramma
1 Midas blenny
1 yellowhead pearly jawfish
15 firefish slowly trying to remove them Actually, over time they will "remove" themselves.

Future list
Blotched anthias pair
Fathead sunburst anthias several
Kauderns cardinalfish pair should be tank raised and male plus female only
Diamond watchman goby additional yellow head jawfish instead would be cool

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Unread 12/21/2013, 10:35 AM   #8414
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Any other wrasse that would be good candidates?


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Unread 12/21/2013, 10:38 AM   #8415
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Any other wrasse that would be good candidates?
Most flasher wrasses would work but they are prolific jumpers. With inverts such as shrimp, many wrasses will not work because they are not invert safe.


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Unread 12/21/2013, 10:53 AM   #8416
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Are Peppermint shrimp compatible with Clams???

Thanks in advance. ..


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Unread 12/21/2013, 10:56 AM   #8417
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Hi , several months ago i lost all but 2 of my fish due to what i believe was Marine Velvet. The remaining 2,( a six line and a Maroon Clown about 2.5 " long), went into OT for 93 days while the DT remained fish free. Since, 2 weeks ago the six line died from old age,(had it 5-6 years). SO, that being said, i now have just the one clown with it's host Anemone in a 175 BF, system total approx 410 gals, with corals and lightly stocked LR in a free standing Pinnacle formation.
Right now the coral mix is SPS/LPS and for the time being i will concentrate on adding more SPS over time BUT, if you could provide any suggestions for a peaceful and stress free non coral munching fish stocking list in some order of progression i would be thankful and seriously consider it.

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Are Peppermint shrimp compatible with Clams???

Thanks in advance. ..
This thread is only about marine fish compatibility. (However, shrimp, except some mantis shrimp, and clams are not a problem)


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Unread 12/21/2013, 11:01 AM   #8419
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Hi Steve, several months ago i lost all but 2 of my fish due to what i believe was Marine Velvet. The remaining 2,( a six line and a Maroon Clown about 2.5 " long), went into OT for 93 days while the DT remained fish free. Since, 2 weeks ago the six line died from old age,(had it 5-6 years). SO, that being said, i now have just the one clown with it's host Anemone in a 175 BF, system total approx 410 gals, with corals and lightly stocked LR in a free standing Pinnacle formation.
Right now the coral mix is SPS/LPS and for the time being i will concentrate on adding more SPS over time BUT, if you could provide any suggestions for a peaceful and stress free non coral munching fish stocking list in some order of progression i would be thankful and seriously consider it.

The DT is bare bottom and there is a cleaner shrimp as well
As those who follow this thread know, I do not provide recommendations for a variety of reasons. However I am always ready and willing to analyze any stocking list for compatibility. Sorry about your bout with velvet. I am concerned that this fish may have developed immunity to it and still may be a carrier. How was it treated in QT?


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It was treated first with the tank transfer method, then with Cupramine then with Prazipro. Each treatment in a separate QT.


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It was treated first with the tank transfer method, then with Cupramine then with Prazipro. Each treatment in a separate QT.
Should be ok. TT has no effect on velvet as you know. Cupramine, maintained at therapeutic dosage, should have killed the parasite in 4 weeks.


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Unread 12/21/2013, 03:09 PM   #8422
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I have a 65 gallon full of live rock with a sump. Right now there is a mandarin, a Flasher Wrasse and a Helfrichi. They've been there for months and the pod population is stable. I can see dozens of pods out in the day and after dark using a red flashlight I can't count them. About 2 months ago I added a Watchman for the Pistol Shrimp. I was wondering about adding some Barnacle Blennies? Maybe a jawfish? Would the pistol Shrimp shoot the jawfish? How long should they be Quarantined?

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I have a 65 gallon full of live rock with a sump. Right now there is a mandarin, a Flasher Wrasse and a Helfrichi. They've been there for months and the pod population is stable. I can see dozens of pods out in the day and after dark using a red flashlight I can't count them. About 2 months ago I added a Watchman for the Pistol Shrimp. I was wondering about adding some Barnacle Blennies? Maybe a jawfish? Would the pistol Shrimp shoot the jawfish? How long should they be Quarantined?

Thank you.
Quarantine protocol is beyond the scope of this thread. The pistol shrimp will not react to the jawfish but the the watchman goby may have issues with it. Barnacle blennies should be fine.


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Unread 12/22/2013, 02:34 AM   #8424
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Stocking Order

75G Reef tank is almost done cycling, so trying to develop a stocking plan.Assuming I quarantine each fish for a minimum of 30 days, the planned fishy additions over the next two years are:

- Ocellaris Clownfish
- Royal Gramma
- Helfrichi Firefish
- Yellow watchman goby and pistol shrimp
- Mckoskers flasher wrasse
- Yellow-eye Kole tang
- Blue-Green Reef Chromis
- Banggai Cardinal
- Yellowtail Damsel
- Neon Goby
- Solon Wrasse

Any suggestions on stocking order to maximize tank harmony & minimize stress on less aggressive inhabitants?


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Unread 12/22/2013, 02:48 AM   #8425
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Everything looks good just the two wrasse are most likely not going to get along and I am sure the damsel will eventually pick on one or two of the fish. Just go slow on adding everything since your tank is new.


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