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Unread 11/15/2009, 10:13 AM   #826
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I have a black Brittle Star in my DT that so far has not had a chance to bother anything since all I have is a couple of Clowns. I did at one time have a Peppermint shrimp and that was fine. Do you think this will be problem with the smaller fish and especially a Mandarin Goby?
"usually" its the green brittle stars that can be problems. I have a brown brittle star in my tank for three years so its huge. Has not been a problem to any thing


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No photos yet. The LR is from Tampa Bay Saltwater. The tank is still cycling and settling in.
look forward to seeing them at a later date.
Suggest you start your own build thread in the new to hobby forum. That way you can keep a chronological progression of your tank plus receive help from a lot more people.


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I have a 29 usg set up since March. Probably has about 30-35 lbs lr in it...maybe? around there??? Anyways, I want to start stocking with fish again probably after the 1st of the year (after I get my Bday and Christmas $$). I would like mostly reef safe or reef safe colorful fish. So what would you add to add some colorful movement?

Was thinking maybe b/w occelaris(for something different from the norm), and possibly a yellow assessor. A canary wrasse would also give a good splash of color swimming about the tank. What about a rainford's goby.


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[QUOTE=Korrine;16026052]I have a 29 usg set up since March. Probably has about 30-35 lbs lr in it...maybe? around there??? Anyways, I want to start stocking with fish again probably after the 1st of the year (after I get my Bday and Christmas $$). I would like mostly reef safe or reef safe colorful fish. So what would you add to add some colorful movement?

Was thinking maybe b/w occelaris(for something different from the norm), and possibly a yellow assessor. A canary wrasse would also give a good splash of color swimming about the tank. What about a rainford's goby.[/QUOTE

The yellow assessor has a good review:

"The Yellow Assessor Basslet, also known as the Golden Mini Grouper or Gold Assessor Basslet, is entirely yellow with red outlining the fins. It may often be seen swimming upside down.
For a single Yellow Assessor Basslet, provide at least a 30-gallon tank – larger for more individuals, and plenty of rock caves for hiding. It is best to keep only one male Yellow Assessor Basslet in a single aquarium since he can be aggressive and territorial. These fish are generally peaceful towards other species. The Yellow Assessor Basslet will not bother invertebrates making it an excellent choice for reef aquariums.

As a carnivore, the Yellow Assessor Basslet will thrive on a diet of meaty foods such as finely chopped fresh or frozen marine fish, squid, mysid shrimp, vitamin-enriched brine shrimp, and frozen carnivore preparations. Feed at least twice a day."
http://www.peteducation.com/article....+2179&aid=3154

and so does Rainford's goby

"This attractive fish has alternating orange and greenish stripes running down the body, and a spot on the base of the second dorsal fin and just before the tail. Do not keep it with pugnacious tankmates, as this is a peafeful fish. Rainford's goby can be very secretive, especially when first added to the tank and will remain hidden if it is picked on. This species is rarely aggressive towards other bottom-dwelling fishes, with the exception of closely related forms. It will do best in a tank that has some filamentous green algae, which it will graze upon"
http://www.themarinecenter.com/fish/...rainfordsgoby/


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Mandarin goby questions

Can you guys please explain why I have read one should wait 6 months to add a mandarin goby?


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Can you guys please explain why I have read one should wait 6 months to add a mandarin goby?
Mandarine gobies feed on live copopods. It is suggested that you setup a refugium to produce the live copopods for them. Otherwise they quickly deplete any copopods in your system and starve to death.

If you want to go the route of adding live copopods to your tank by purchasing them it can be very expensive.

The six months gives time for the system to generate there own. However copopods are eaten by most of the other fish very quickly and IMO this is not a definitive suggestion to follow either.

If you set up your refugium with cheato macro algae for the copopods to hide in you should be able to get a big enough population in two to three months.


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Unread 11/15/2009, 10:37 AM   #832
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Hockey. It takes a long time for the life in to stabilize. My tank has been set up since March and I just started seeing a HUGE increase in amphipods in the last month. For a long time it was the tiny dot sized ones on the glass. That's why it's best to wait awhile. There will be a spike in pods, some die off and then it's my understand the amphipods come along spike their population and then some die off. This will happen BEFORE there is a happy medium in the tank.


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oh oh capn beat me

As for my fish question, I wanted to know what others would add in my tank? Any other suggestions other than ones I've mentioned?


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Just based on your fish list in your sig, a single yellow watchman would be a good addition: he'll find a tunnel, and pop out onto his doorstep and supervise once he settles in. They're good at hiding, but once they get the idea they're safe, they're very front and center. Max size about 4".


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Was that for me Sk8r? I'd be concerned about the yasha and yellow watchman fighting? If they might be ok, then I'd be more inclined to add a jawfish since my sand bed is about 3-4".


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Just based on your fish list in your sig, a single yellow watchman would be a good addition: he'll find a tunnel, and pop out onto his doorstep and supervise once he settles in. They're good at hiding, but once they get the idea they're safe, they're very front and center. Max size about 4".

welcome back esteemed fellow reefer. Appreciate some input from others on this thread esp yours. However it has been an excellent learning experience for me too


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Was that for me Sk8r? I'd be concerned about the yasha and yellow watchman fighting? If they might be ok, then I'd be more inclined to add a jawfish since my sand bed is about 3-4".
Korrine, you have plenty of rock so I would not worry. They will each be able to have their own piece of rock to crawl under and defend.


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First, here is the look I am aiming for: I like a less cluttered tank --no overflowing, "busy" tanks. I hope to diminish how busy the tank looks by trying to coordinate just a few colors. I thought I would have one centerpiece fish (Kole Tang) and then two other basic colors for fish. I had originally thought about 3-5 Chromies and then a couple of another species, such as Anthias. I then crossed off the Anthias, because I wanted more character in the tank....enter the Midas Blenny. If I can manage to keep a few Blue Reef Chromis alive with one Midas and a Kole, I think this may look okay and still have plenty of character.

I also really dislike a messy sandbed...enter, the awesome Diamind Goby. Additonally, there's nothing like a freshly mowed rock...enter, the Tuxedo Urchin. (I am a huge fan of the clean-back-glass-look).

Near Final Fish List --the bold are the must haves (or at least the "really-want-haves"):
1 Kole Tang
3 Blue Reef Chromis vs. alternative of 3-5 Blue/Green Chromis
1 Midas Blenny vs. alternative of 2 Yellow Assesors(Assessor flavissimus) vs. Anthias
1 tuxedo urchin (add once coraline is established)
1 Diamond Goby (added once sandbed is established)
2 peppermint shrimp
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crimson hermits w/extra shells
snails
Crocea Clams

Concerns:
-No one seems to have a picture of a Blue Reef Chromis as an adult so I am not sure how quick they may out grow the tank. Some sources say they may reach FIVE inches; others say 3-4". I spoke with one person that had a 3-1/2" the same size for several years (though he always only had one Blue Reef mixed with his Blue/Green Chromies).
-Midas Blenny might attack Diamond Goby (similar body shapes). I like the idea of this yellow fish contrasting with the Blue Reef Chromis.


This is a great forum --thanks for everyone's input!
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You have been very helpful, to myself and lots of others. Thanks for taking the time to answer questions. Now that you got some strokes, help me with this. I currently have the following:
(2) clowns
(1) 6 Line
(1) Tail Spot
(1) Green Clown Goby
(1) Coral Beauty

I am thinking about adding the following:
(1) Mandarin Goby (the fuge is cooking but I may need to substitute pods for a while, I will have him in QT so maybe I will get lucky and make him like prepared foods).
(1) Midas Blenny
(2) Peppermint shrimp
(1) Cleaner shrimp
(3) Chromis

This is a 100g with plenty of LR is this too much or do I have room to spare?
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First, here is the look I am aiming for: I like a less cluttered tank --no overflowing, "busy" tanks. I hope to diminish how busy the tank looks by trying to coordinate just a few colors. I thought I would have one centerpiece fish (Kole Tang) and then two other basic colors for fish. I had originally thought about 3-5 Chromies and then a couple of another species, such as Anthias. I then crossed off the Anthias, because I wanted more character in the tank....enter the Midas Blenny. If I can manage to keep a few Blue Reef Chromis alive with one Midas and a Kole, I think this may look okay and still have plenty of character.

I also really dislike a messy sandbed...enter, the awesome Diamind Goby. Additonally, there's nothing like a freshly mowed rock...enter, the Tuxedo Urchin. (I am a huge fan of the clean-back-glass-look).

Near Final Fish List --the bold are the must haves (or at least the "really-want-haves"):
1 Kole Tang
3 Blue Reef Chromis vs. alternative of 3-5 Blue/Green Chromis
1 Midas Blenny vs. alternative of 2 Yellow Assesors(Assessor flavissimus) vs. Anthias
1 tuxedo urchin (add once coraline is established)
1 Diamond Goby (added once sandbed is established)
2 peppermint shrimp
1-2 skunk cleaner shrimp
1 scalet serpent star (may need to supplement diet with krill)
crimson hermits w/extra shells
snails
Crocea Clams

Concerns:
-No one seems to have a picture of a Blue Reef Chromis as an adult so I am not sure how quick they may out grow the tank. Some sources say they may reach FIVE inches; others say 3-4". I spoke with one person that had a 3-1/2" the same size for several years (though he always only had one Blue Reef mixed with his Blue/Green Chromies).
-Midas Blenny might attack Diamond Goby (similar body shapes). I like the idea of this yellow fish contrasting with the Blue Reef Chromis.


This is a great forum --thanks for everyone's input!
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You have been very helpful, to myself and lots of others. Thanks for taking the time to answer questions. Now that you got some strokes, help me with this. I currently have the following:
(2) clowns
(1) 6 Line
(1) Tail Spot
(1) Green Clown Goby
(1) Coral Beauty

I am thinking about adding the following:
(1) Mandarin Goby (the fuge is cooking but I may need to substitute pods for a while, I will have him in QT so maybe I will get lucky and make him like prepared foods).
(1) Midas Blenny
(2) Peppermint shrimp
(1) Cleaner shrimp
(3) Chromis

This is a 100g with plenty of LR is this too much or do I have room to spare?
John
Thanks JTL but the pleasure is mine too---I am also learning

You have alot of small fish so 11 is certainly not a great deal for a 100g. The other issue is compatability. Gobies and Blennies are fine together and don't need a large piece of turf on the reef to live. The six line is a busy fish and as long as there are lots of holes and spaces in the reef it usually won't bother the other fish. The chromies are more top or open water swimmers so they should not have to interact with the reef dwellers you have.
The mandarine goby is a bottom dweller so it will have its own space too.

You must feef the mandarine goby live copopods. If your refugium is just developing===ie you can't visibly see it teeming with life then you need to substitute it with live copopods. I would put it in the main tank and buy some live copopods---seed the refugium with them and also the tank. You should be fine then.


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I haven't started my tank yet, but I was looking to stock my tank with sps and lps eventually. I also want to do CUC with snails and shrimp. What do you think about the following fish:

1. Cherub Angel
2. Zoster Butterfly
3. Sailfin Tang
4. Basslet Royal Gamma
5. Sleeper Gold Head Goby

Will these be compatible? What issues should I be aware of? What order should I put them in the tank? I am thinking of 2-3 other fish and I am open to suggestions. Thanks in advance for all of your help.


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I haven't started my tank yet, but I was looking to stock my tank with sps and lps eventually. I also want to do CUC with snails and shrimp. What do you think about the following fish:

1. Cherub Angel
2. Zoster Butterfly
3. Sailfin Tang
4. Basslet Royal Gamma
5. Sleeper Gold Head Goby

Will these be compatible? What issues should I be aware of? What order should I put them in the tank? I am thinking of 2-3 other fish and I am open to suggestions. Thanks in advance for all of your help.
what size of tank are you considering?


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I haven't started my tank yet, but I was looking to stock my tank with sps and lps eventually. I also want to do CUC with snails and shrimp. What do you think about the following fish:

1. Cherub Angel
2. Zoster Butterfly
3. Sailfin Tang
4. Basslet Royal Gamma
5. Sleeper Gold Head Goby

Will these be compatible? What issues should I be aware of? What order should I put them in the tank? I am thinking of 2-3 other fish and I am open to suggestions. Thanks in advance for all of your help.
All those choices are "generally" reef safe and don't bother with each other. The royal gamma needs a cave of its own so it can retreat to it when stressed. Cherub angels and zoster butterfly fish might occasionally nip at corals.
The sailfin tang is two large of a tang as an adult for a 90 gal. You could get away with a yellow tang however but it should be added last
also the rule of thumb is one dwarf angel per tank


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All those choices are "generally" reef safe and don't bother with each other. The royal gamma needs a cave of its own so it can retreat to it when stressed. Cherub angels and zoster butterfly fish might occasionally nip at corals.
The sailfin tang is two large of a tang as an adult for a 90 gal. You could get away with a yellow tang however but it should be added last
also the rule of thumb is one dwarf angel per tank
Thanks, any other suggested fish. I am not too much of a fan of the yellow tang for some reason.


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Great thread.

I have a 12g jbj nanocube. LR/LS, no filter, no skimmer, nothing in the rear chamber, 5g water changes weekly. I have 2 false percs, can I add a flame hawkfish?


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Thanks, any other suggested fish. I am not too much of a fan of the yellow tang for some reason.
as listed above how about a Kole tang--adult size 7 inches.

http://www.reefcorner.com/SpecimenSheets/kole_tang.htm


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Great thread.

I have a 12g jbj nanocube. LR/LS, no filter, no skimmer, nothing in the rear chamber, 5g water changes weekly. I have 2 false percs, can I add a flame hawkfish?
suggestion--put some reef rock rubble in the back along with a bag of carbon--will really help on the filtration. I look after a number of cubes which i change the water weekly. The carbon stops the yellowing of the water

I personally like the flame hawk as they 'perch" on things--great for the cube.
I also like the yellow watchman goby. They will dig a hole under the front of the reef and stay half in and half out of it


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as listed above how about a Kole tang--adult size 7 inches.

http://www.reefcorner.com/SpecimenSheets/kole_tang.htm
Thanks. That's a great suggestion. Can I put more than the five fish in my tank? Any other fish that you can suggest?


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