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snorvich · 12/17/2011, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by MHG

Sorry I work for the Government... And Reef Central is probably worse...

LM Goby...Lawn Mower

Ah, Lawn Mower Blenny. I would never have figured that out from LM Goby. The Sailfin/Algae Blenny is notable for its unique looks and winning personality. With a mottled tan color, oversized eyes, and typical body shape of the Blenniidae family, Salarias fasciatus adds visual appeal to any marine aquarium. But despite its tendency to grow to an impressive 5" in size in the home aquarium, the Sailfin/Algae Blenny remains peaceful, active and, therefore, fun to observe. If you have other herbivores, be sure to supplement with nori.

Also referred to as the Jewelled Rockskipper, Lawnmower, or Rock Blenny, the Sailfin/Algae Blenny is native to the reefs across the Indo-Pacific. Like other Blennies, the Sailfin/Algae Blenny will perch on live rock, hide in caves, hop across the substrate, and graze on microalgae. Therefore, it requires a larger system with a variety of live rock and rockwork. Minimum tank size is 30 gallons, if other herbivores, make it larger.

The Sailfin/Algae Blenny is peaceful towards other fish unless the tank mate is similar in shape or appearance to the blenny. It is best to house the Sailfin/Algae Blenny singly unless kept in a larger aquarium and the two are a mated pair. Beware of adding other fish that will be perceived to be in the same ecological niche. It is known to nip at small-polyped stony coral and clam mantles.

The Sailfin/Algae Blenny does best in well-established aquariums with large amounts of natural algae to feed on. The diet can be supplemented with vegetable matter, spirulina, and herbivore preparations.

windyridge · 12/18/2011, 12:22 PM

With your help I have chosen the Tomini Tang for my 92G corner and I would like to add a neon goby to help keep it clean. Will the neon goby have a problem with the yellow goby which is only about an inch long?

windyridge · 12/18/2011, 01:20 PM

Snorvich, my lawnmower blenny is going back to the LFs after eating my blue star polyp, and starting in on my Kenyan tree, favia and palys. They aren't all good reef additions. Mine is a pig and eats a lot of what I feed the fish, meaty stuff included and I always have algae on a clip for it. It still messes with my corals even with a fat stomach.

I Googled to see if anyone else was having this problem and sure enough there are people out there having problems with them. I think it's hit or miss for reef tanks.

snorvich · 12/18/2011, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by windyridge

With your help I have chosen the Tomini Tang for my 92G corner and I would like to add a neon goby to help keep it clean. Will the neon goby have a problem with the yellow goby which is only about an inch long?

Should not be a problem

snorvich · 12/18/2011, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by windyridge

Snorvich, my lawnmower blenny is going back to the LFs after eating my blue star polyp, and starting in on my Kenyan tree, favia and palys. They aren't all good reef additions. Mine is a pig and eats a lot of what I feed the fish, meaty stuff included and I always have algae on a clip for it. It still messes with my corals even with a fat stomach.

I Googled to see if anyone else was having this problem and sure enough there are people out there having problems with them. I think it's hit or miss for reef tanks.

Theoretically they are herbivores. They will eat microalgae off of any surface. Sorry you are having the problem.

jettex · 12/18/2011, 03:13 PM

What about a yellow tang and a blue hippo in a 110 gallon tank?

snorvich · 12/18/2011, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by jettex

What about a yellow tang and a blue hippo in a 110 gallon tank?

Reef Central's recommended tank size for P. hepatus is 240 gallons. They grow large quickly.

talwen · 12/18/2011, 11:53 PM

I have a 125 gal 6feet long tank with 100# live rock that currently houses 7fish flasher wrasse firefish 2clowns yellow tang bluespot goby and foxface. I am wanting to finish off my fish with another tang and an angel or 2. Intended fish kole tang and either a swallow tail or lemarks angel fish. Please help me make the conscience decision.

larrypoe · 12/19/2011, 12:07 AM

first saltwater venture here for me :/....starting with a 55g stock lighting biowheel type pump and live sand....using limestone instead of LR and hope to have a pair of false pec clowns, hadens carpet, urchin. later I would add a 125+ with the sick lights, LR, CUC, false pec clowns, yellow and blue damsels, and others. the 55 would then be kept strictly for CUC I cant keep with corals....starfish,urchin,hermits.. and the only CUC in the larger tank being snails. by lifting the 55g to the same hight as the 125+ I would use reverse biowheels. one coming from main to 55 w only the bio stuff and no filter, the one coming from the 55 to the main filtered like normal. idea being dirty from main/clean back to main. sort of a refuge type deal. this way I can have the livestock i want and not have to worry about them not getting along.

snorvich · 12/19/2011, 06:28 AM

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Originally Posted by talwen

I have a 125 gal 6feet long tank with 100# live rock that currently houses 7fish flasher wrasse firefish 2clowns yellow tang bluespot goby and foxface. I am wanting to finish off my fish with another tang and an angel or 2. Intended fish kole tang and either a swallow tail or lemarks angel fish. Please help me make the conscience decision.

The yellow will not be happy with the introduction of any other tang. He may or may not get over it. Your yellow and foxface are both grazers and may feel cramped with the addition of a third grazer The genicanthus angels get a bit largish and are swimmers; the first will not be pleased about introduction of the second. So, in summary, there may be difficulty with your additions.

snorvich · 12/19/2011, 06:34 AM

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Originally Posted by larrypoe

first saltwater venture here for me :/....starting with a 55g stock lighting biowheel type pump and live sand....using limestone instead of LR

I recommend live rock despite it costing more

and hope to have a pair of false pec clowns, hadens carpet,

Remember the carpet will eat fish. Be sure you match the anemone with your clownfish and remember the carpet really needs a mature tank with good lighting

urchin. later I would add a 125+ with the sick lights, LR, CUC, false pec clowns, yellow and blue damsels, and others. the 55 would then be kept strictly for CUC I cant keep with corals....starfish,urchin,hermits.. and the only CUC in the larger tank being snails. by lifting the 55g to the same hight as the 125+ I would use reverse biowheels. one coming from main to 55 w only the bio stuff and no filter, the one coming from the 55 to the main filtered like normal. idea being dirty from main/clean back to main. sort of a refuge type deal. this way I can have the livestock i want and not have to worry about them not getting along.

This thread is really about fish compatibility, so I am reluctant to wade in on your tank strategy. However, I would not do it, it is very difficult to properly manage water flow and it does not really buy you much other than additional water volume. Best to pose the tank strategy on the general New to the Hobby forum for discussion.

talwen · 12/19/2011, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by snorvich

The yellow will not be happy with the introduction of any other tang. He may or may not get over it. Your yellow and foxface are both grazers and may feel cramped with the addition of a third grazer The genicanthus angels get a bit largish and are swimmers; the first will not be pleased about introduction of the second. So, in summary, there may be difficulty with your additions.

So I noticed in your other posts you said absolutely not but in my you said it would be difficult. is this something you would try and just be prepared to remove the problem fish or would it be something you dont recommend at all?

snorvich · 12/19/2011, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by talwen

So I noticed in your other posts you said absolutely not but in my you said it would be difficult. is this something you would try and just be prepared to remove the problem fish or would it be something you dont recommend at all?

Since I have multiple large tanks, I have some option value. I have never had good luck with adding another tang or member of the same ecological niche (grazers) to an established yellow tang, even in a 350 gallon tank. But it seems as if I keep running into folks wanting to do so and hoping for the best and I hate to always be the one forced to advise against a combination. I would not do it; been there, done that, never again. The smaller the tank, the less probable a good outcome. I am not a fan of yellow tangs, but if I had to have one, it would always be the last fish added.

talwen · 12/19/2011, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by snorvich

Since I have multiple large tanks, I have some option value. I have never had good luck with adding another tang or member of the same ecological niche (grazers) to an established yellow tang, even in a 350 gallon tank. But it seems as if I keep running into folks wanting to do so and hoping for the best and I hate to always be the one forced to advise against a combination. I would not do it; been there, done that, never again. The smaller the tank, the less probable a good outcome. I am not a fan of yellow tangs, but if I had to have one, it would always be the last fish added.

Thanks for the input I appreciate it. I think the best plan of action would be to convince the wife I need to get rid of the yellow tang in order to add more fish with better personalities and possible down the road get a smaller one as the last fish.

snorvich · 12/19/2011, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by talwen

Thanks for the input I appreciate it. I think the best plan of action would be to convince the wife I need to get rid of the yellow tang in order to add more fish with better personalities and possible down the road get a smaller one as the last fish.

In my opinion that is a good plan. Have you looked at Chevron tangs?

mattmaddox573 · 12/19/2011, 06:00 PM

My tank is about nine months old. My sump with fuge is only about 1 month old. I also have a buiolt in sump tho which has a fuge as well. I want to get a mandarin but am not seeing copepods. I bought some and they were in the bottle and were alive when i added to the tank. Im highly confident my tank is healthy. All corals are bright and all fish seem happy. Why am i having trouble with pods. Also i put a pellet or two of new life spectrum in fuge every day or two

snorvich · 12/19/2011, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by mattmaddox573

My tank is about nine months old. My sump with fuge is only about 1 month old. I also have a buiolt in sump tho which has a fuge as well. I want to get a mandarin but am not seeing copepods. I bought some and they were in the bottle and were alive when i added to the tank. Im highly confident my tank is healthy. All corals are bright and all fish seem happy. Why am i having trouble with pods. Also i put a pellet or two of new life spectrum in fuge every day or two

Tank size? I do not recommend anything less than 75 gallons for a mandarin. Chaeto in refugium? Refugium size? Do you dose phyto to your refugium?

mattmaddox573 · 12/19/2011, 06:56 PM

its 70 gal display. 30 gallon sump. Maybe 15 gal fuge. Its seperated tho five gal with chateo live rock live sand. 10 gallon with rock sand. no chateo. i put roughly, supposedly a thousand in each fuge. dont give phyto just couple pellets of food

snorvich · 12/19/2011, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by mattmaddox573

its 70 gal display. 30 gallon sump. Maybe 15 gal fuge. Its seperated tho five gal with chateo live rock live sand. 10 gallon with rock sand. no chateo. i put roughly, supposedly a thousand in each fuge. dont give phyto just couple pellets of food

Give the refugium a couple of months. You should be fine.

Multiham · 12/19/2011, 09:22 PM

28 gallon nano cube
25lbs live rock
Currently have:
Bangaii Cardinal
Yellow Watchman Goby
Skunk cleaner shrimp

Would like to add 2 more fish. Could I add both a Yellow banded possum wrasse and a Filamented Flasher Wrasse. Believe they are both peaceful individually, but not sure how they respond together

Thanks!

csarkar001 · 12/19/2011, 09:38 PM

I have a 180 gal tank with a few chromis in it. Would they harrass or kill a small school of blue-eyed cardinals?

snorvich · 12/19/2011, 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Multiham

28 gallon nano cube
25lbs live rock
Currently have:
Bangaii Cardinal
Yellow Watchman Goby
Skunk cleaner shrimp

Would like to add 2 more fish. Could I add both a Yellow banded possum wrasse and a Filamented Flasher Wrasse. Believe they are both peaceful individually, but not sure how they respond together

Thanks!

There should be no interaction.

snorvich · 12/19/2011, 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by csarkar001

I have a 180 gal tank with a few chromis in it. Would they harrass or kill a small school of blue-eyed cardinals?

They should not interact. Cardinals are difficult shippers, by the way

Toddsteez · 12/19/2011, 10:16 PM

Hi everyone!

I have a 37 gallon, 30" x 12"x 23" tank with: custom canopy (adds 8" height), T-5 Lighting (2 bulbs, 28 in"), Canister filter (JBJ Reaction4 EFU-25, rated for 100gal), Remora Protein Skimmer (hang on the back style) + Maxi-Jet Submersible pump, small refugium (with chaeto), hood fan, live sand (4" deep), about 50lbs live rock, heater, and circulation pump (MN 606, 159gph).

I have Kenyan trees, about 10 green palys, a snowflake eel, and a fuzzy dwarf lionfish. What livestock, corals, and inverts would go well in this tank? I have some ideas but I would love some opinions!

talwen · 12/19/2011, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by snorvich

In my opinion that is a good plan. Have you looked at Chevron tangs?

I have looked at the chevron but was always turned off by the tank size recommendations. Can I ask why you recommended it?

12/18/2011, 12:22 PM	#827
windyridge Fish Mother Join Date: May 2011 Location: South Otselic, NY Posts: 1,403	With your help I have chosen the Tomini Tang for my 92G corner and I would like to add a neon goby to help keep it clean. Will the neon goby have a problem with the yellow goby which is only about an inch long? __________________ 92G Mixed reef, SCA-302 skimmer, 15g sump w/fuge & Eheim Compact Plus @650 gph, AI Sol Blue, Koralia 750 &Tunze Nanostream 6025, Apex Jr,Tomini, 6-Line, Brittle star, damsels, Gramma, RBTA/clown, PJ c Current Tank Info: 92G Corner Bowfront Mixed Reef

12/18/2011, 01:20 PM	#828
windyridge Fish Mother Join Date: May 2011 Location: South Otselic, NY Posts: 1,403	Snorvich, my lawnmower blenny is going back to the LFs after eating my blue star polyp, and starting in on my Kenyan tree, favia and palys. They aren't all good reef additions. Mine is a pig and eats a lot of what I feed the fish, meaty stuff included and I always have algae on a clip for it. It still messes with my corals even with a fat stomach. I Googled to see if anyone else was having this problem and sure enough there are people out there having problems with them. I think it's hit or miss for reef tanks. __________________ 92G Mixed reef, SCA-302 skimmer, 15g sump w/fuge & Eheim Compact Plus @650 gph, AI Sol Blue, Koralia 750 &Tunze Nanostream 6025, Apex Jr,Tomini, 6-Line, Brittle star, damsels, Gramma, RBTA/clown, PJ c Current Tank Info: 92G Corner Bowfront Mixed Reef

12/18/2011, 03:13 PM	#831
jettex Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Texas Posts: 4	tangs? What about a yellow tang and a blue hippo in a 110 gallon tank?

12/19/2011, 06:00 PM	#841
mattmaddox573 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 52	mandarins and copepods My tank is about nine months old. My sump with fuge is only about 1 month old. I also have a buiolt in sump tho which has a fuge as well. I want to get a mandarin but am not seeing copepods. I bought some and they were in the bottle and were alive when i added to the tank. Im highly confident my tank is healthy. All corals are bright and all fish seem happy. Why am i having trouble with pods. Also i put a pellet or two of new life spectrum in fuge every day or two

12/19/2011, 09:38 PM	#846
csarkar001 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: stamford, ct Posts: 345	Would Chromis attack blue-eyed cardinals I have a 180 gal tank with a few chromis in it. Would they harrass or kill a small school of blue-eyed cardinals?

12/18/2011, 11:53 PM	#833
talwen Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: avondale az Posts: 298	I have a 125 gal 6feet long tank with 100# live rock that currently houses 7fish flasher wrasse firefish 2clowns yellow tang bluespot goby and foxface. I am wanting to finish off my fish with another tang and an angel or 2. Intended fish kole tang and either a swallow tail or lemarks angel fish. Please help me make the conscience decision.

12/19/2011, 12:07 AM	#834
larrypoe Registered Member. Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 108	first saltwater venture here for me :/....starting with a 55g stock lighting biowheel type pump and live sand....using limestone instead of LR and hope to have a pair of false pec clowns, hadens carpet, urchin. later I would add a 125+ with the sick lights, LR, CUC, false pec clowns, yellow and blue damsels, and others. the 55 would then be kept strictly for CUC I cant keep with corals....starfish,urchin,hermits.. and the only CUC in the larger tank being snails. by lifting the 55g to the same hight as the 125+ I would use reverse biowheels. one coming from main to 55 w only the bio stuff and no filter, the one coming from the 55 to the main filtered like normal. idea being dirty from main/clean back to main. sort of a refuge type deal. this way I can have the livestock i want and not have to worry about them not getting along.

12/19/2011, 06:56 PM	#843
mattmaddox573 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 52	its 70 gal display. 30 gallon sump. Maybe 15 gal fuge. Its seperated tho five gal with chateo live rock live sand. 10 gallon with rock sand. no chateo. i put roughly, supposedly a thousand in each fuge. dont give phyto just couple pellets of food

12/19/2011, 09:22 PM	#845
Multiham Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Bucks County, PA Posts: 132	28 gallon nano cube 25lbs live rock Currently have: Bangaii Cardinal Yellow Watchman Goby Skunk cleaner shrimp Would like to add 2 more fish. Could I add both a Yellow banded possum wrasse and a Filamented Flasher Wrasse. Believe they are both peaceful individually, but not sure how they respond together Thanks!

12/19/2011, 10:16 PM	#849
Toddsteez Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Boulder, CO Posts: 7	Hi everyone! I have a 37 gallon, 30" x 12"x 23" tank with: custom canopy (adds 8" height), T-5 Lighting (2 bulbs, 28 in"), Canister filter (JBJ Reaction4 EFU-25, rated for 100gal), Remora Protein Skimmer (hang on the back style) + Maxi-Jet Submersible pump, small refugium (with chaeto), hood fan, live sand (4" deep), about 50lbs live rock, heater, and circulation pump (MN 606, 159gph). I have Kenyan trees, about 10 green palys, a snowflake eel, and a fuzzy dwarf lionfish. What livestock, corals, and inverts would go well in this tank? I have some ideas but I would love some opinions! __________________ 40gal(SW)-Snowflake Eel,Fuzzy Dwarf Lionfish / 30gal(FW)-Black Angel,African Clawed Frog,6 Green Tiger Barbs,Pearl Gourami,Silver Dollar / 10gal(FW Planted)-Dojo Loach,Red Tail Shark, 12 Ghost Shrimp

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