New EcoTech Marine Vectra Return Pump - Page 34

rjallen · 03/19/2016, 09:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrBB8

Anyone have accurate dimensions of the m1?

Can these pump be turned down to 2-3-4-5000lph if ever required?

Yes, you can turn down the pump until water just dribbles into the tank. Will take some trail and error to adjust to desired flow rate.

Dimensions: 6.0" H x 5" W x 7.5" L
Input Size: 1" (25mm)
OutputSize: .75" (19mm)

From BRS website. They usually have dimensions of equipment. Most vendors do and you can also find the information on almost all manufacturer's sites.

Good luck

mfinn · 03/19/2016, 09:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrBB8

Anyone have accurate dimensions of the m1?

Can these pump be turned down to 2-3-4-5000lph if ever required?

From the ETM website it says the pump is 6.25" long, 4.25" wide and 5.375" tall. But that is without any fittings on it.

I don't see anything on how much you can slow the flow.

ca1ore · 03/19/2016, 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrBB8

Anyone have accurate dimensions of the m1?

Can these pump be turned down to 2-3-4-5000lph if ever required?

They're variable flow pumps, so certainly you can dial it back. My M1 is running on a variable program, but maxes at 45%.

ca1ore · 03/19/2016, 10:13 AM

BTW, as an academic exercise, I tried using my Vectra as the main return. My sump is in the basement, so the main return pump has to push up about 12 feet and through 2 elbows and two barbed fittings. I estimate that l got about 500 net GPH at full speed. Big loss. I would need the L1 to get closer to the net GPH of 900 I'm getting out of my panworld. Maybe the L1 would do a bit better. I napkined the cost savings and figure it's not worth it. Something like a 20 year payback

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Works great as a CL, and I'd imagine as a main return for the sump-in-stand crowd.

davehead86 · 03/29/2016, 02:17 PM

Im thinking about biting the bullet and buy an M1 for my return pump. Close to 8 feet of head pressure. 65 gallon with durso that pulls 700 GPH down the drain. I know that ill be ok (read close to maximum speed and GPH i need at that height) with the GPH the pump can provide but as I read this thread IM noticing that the pretty blue fittings that are for quick connect reduce the pipe size. How much does this effect the head pressure / flow rate? Can I just glue into the pump with a union fitting to solve this problem and keep the listed flow rates?

dangros · 03/30/2016, 04:53 AM

For 10 bucks you can get the fitting which screws around the outside. I did this but then ended up coming down in size at the barb which connects to the silicone tubing anyhow. I only go up 4' to my 90g but I have it on the lowest setting and have more than enough flow. I suspect you'll be fine either either way.

davehead86 · 03/30/2016, 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dangros

For 10 bucks you can get the fitting which screws around the outside. I did this but then ended up coming down in size at the barb which connects to the silicone tubing anyhow. I only go up 4' to my 90g but I have it on the lowest setting and have more than enough flow. I suspect you'll be fine either either way.

Thanks for the info. I think ill be alright now that i dug into it a little more and the info here. I can always throttle my drain pipe down a little if needed.

Johnseye · 04/03/2016, 02:38 PM

Is the L1 a good return pump for a 260g DT with about 10 to 12 ft. of head?

Johnseye · 04/03/2016, 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johnseye

Is the L1 a good return pump for a 260g DT with about 10 to 12 ft. of head?

A little more detail. I would be running it external. Immediately from the pump is a wye to a gated manifold. Limited flow to the manifold as it will feed a calcium reactor and dual chamber gfo/gac. The run to the DT is 80" of horizontal with one 45 and a sweeping 90 at the bottom middle of the DT. It then hits a split 120 wye with an angled run with T to 2 Sea Swirls on top, and return bulkheads in the top left and right corners of the tank.

I'm not sure whether the run from the wye to bulkheads are horizontal of vertical. If they are horizontal do I consider both and add them up for total length? Each length is 45". That's how I got to the 10-12 ft. of head when running through the calculator. Not sure how exact that is.

I'm just getting this tank setup and have a HH Gold there now. That was intended to push water up to my first floor, which is no longer the case. The HH is a bit loud for my liking. I'd prefer the L1 if I can get enough flow. If not I'll be looking at the 230w RD3.

Thanks

Johnseye · 04/05/2016, 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johnseye

A little more detail. I would be running it external. Immediately from the pump is a wye to a gated manifold. Limited flow to the manifold as it will feed a calcium reactor and dual chamber gfo/gac. The run to the DT is 80" of horizontal with one 45 and a sweeping 90 at the bottom middle of the DT. It then hits a split 120 wye with an angled run with T to 2 Sea Swirls on top, and return bulkheads in the top left and right corners of the tank.

I'm not sure whether the run from the wye to bulkheads are horizontal of vertical. If they are horizontal do I consider both and add them up for total length? Each length is 45". That's how I got to the 10-12 ft. of head when running through the calculator. Not sure how exact that is.

I'm just getting this tank setup and have a HH Gold there now. That was intended to push water up to my first floor, which is no longer the case. The HH is a bit loud for my liking. I'd prefer the L1 if I can get enough flow. If not I'll be looking at the 230w RD3.

Thanks

No replies and I didn't want to install an L1 that couldn't provide enough flow so I pulled the trigger on a 230w RD3. More than double the cost but I know the RD3 can handle it.

I'll be putting my M1 with LifeReeef skimmer in line with this new tank. It will be interesting to see what kind of impact it has on the water temp. This tank is in the basement and a completely different setup from my 120g.

SPotter · 04/05/2016, 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johnseye

No replies and I didn't want to install an L1 that couldn't provide enough flow so I pulled the trigger on a 230w RD3. More than double the cost but I know the RD3 can handle it.

I'll be putting my M1 with LifeReeef skimmer in line with this new tank. It will be interesting to see what kind of impact it has on the water temp. This tank is in the basement and a completely different setup from my 120g.

I think you made a good choice. I don't think the Vectra would have handled it.

mfinn · 04/05/2016, 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johnseye

No replies and I didn't want to install an L1 that couldn't provide enough flow so I pulled the trigger on a 230w RD3. More than double the cost but I know the RD3 can handle it.

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I agree that you made a good choice.

I really like the Vectra, but they need to make 2 more models ( IMO ).
One of them needs to be able to push a lot more water, than the L1.

SPotter · 04/05/2016, 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blaujess

Soo are they reliable?

Extremely!

Cammunoz · 04/05/2016, 04:21 PM

I jus got one good quality only bummer is i can only use it as a return pump since i only have 1 but heres how i plumbed it

DNA · 04/13/2016, 05:46 PM

I have a simple question on the Vectra M1.

Can I connect 1.25" (32mm) pipe directly to the output with the optional slip adapter?

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This pumps 0.75" output size is the biggest design and marketing flop I've seen in 2016 and the confusion around it makes my head spin.

DNA · 05/06/2016, 02:35 PM

For Europe:

A 32mm endcap fits snugly into the outlet adapter.
Saw the end off the end-cap, minor sanding could help since it may fit too snugly for the glue.
Then clue a standard 32mm pipe into the now double open ended endcap.

mfinn · 05/06/2016, 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DNA

I have a simple question on the Vectra M1.

Can I connect 1.25" (32mm) pipe directly to the output with the optional slip adapter?

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This pumps 0.75" output size is the biggest design and marketing flop I've seen in 2016 and the confusion around it makes my head spin.

Since I had to use the optional fitting on my Vectra M1, I also had to use a 1-1/4 to 1" bushing to connect my 1" pvc return, I would say yes, that 1-1/4" pvc pipe would work.
As long as the pvc pipe sizes are the same in Iceland as they are in the USA.

davehead86 · 05/06/2016, 03:30 PM

Has anyone ordered the battery booster cable and recieved it? I want to know what the dimension are for the plug ends themselves both into the backup and then into the Driver. I want to make my own battery backup similarly to my homemade MP 10 backups and need those dimensions to order the parts from China.

mikeatjac · 05/06/2016, 07:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johnseye

Is the L1 a good return pump for a 260g DT with about 10 to 12 ft. of head?

Yes it is. I am using on with 12" head and it is working great.

Acrononomus · 05/07/2016, 05:07 PM

Just got mine today! Can't wait to get them installed I will be switching from 2 barracuda reef flo pumps, I am mostly doing this for sound, the hum of the reeflo had just become too much .....

dangros · 05/08/2016, 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Acrononomus

Just got mine today! Can't wait to get them installed I will be switching from 2 barracuda reef flo pumps, I am mostly doing this for sound, the hum of the reeflo had just become too much .....

I think you will be pleased w/the result.

EagleI · 05/08/2016, 08:24 PM

I'm on the verge of pulling the trigger on two L1 pumps. My set up is as follows: 240g DT, 60g sump.

I was thinking I would do (x1) L1 for return and (x1) L1 for closed loop. I need pumps that will be reliable and most importantly, QUIET. I will have the sump under the tank so there is very minimal head loss.

Are these my best option?

mfinn · 05/08/2016, 09:54 PM

My Vectras are very quiet.
I have a L1 and a M1.
IMO they are a very good option.

02tts · 05/10/2016, 07:12 PM

Having 2 L1 for return and one for a closed loop.

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EagleI · 05/16/2016, 12:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 02tts

Having 2 L1 for return and one for a closed loop.

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What size tank are you running those on? And who makes your sump?

03/19/2016, 10:13 AM	#829
ca1ore Grizzled & Cynical Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Stamford, CT Posts: 17,319	BTW, as an academic exercise, I tried using my Vectra as the main return. My sump is in the basement, so the main return pump has to push up about 12 feet and through 2 elbows and two barbed fittings. I estimate that l got about 500 net GPH at full speed. Big loss. I would need the L1 to get closer to the net GPH of 900 I'm getting out of my panworld. Maybe the L1 would do a bit better. I napkined the cost savings and figure it's not worth it. Something like a 20 year payback . Works great as a CL, and I'd imagine as a main return for the sump-in-stand crowd. __________________ Simon Got back into the hobby ..... planned to keep it simple ..... yeah, right ..... clearly I need a new plan! Pet peeve: anemones host clowns; clowns do not host anemones! Current Tank Info: 450 Reef; 120 refugium; 60 Frag Tank, 30 Introduction tank; multiple QTs

03/29/2016, 02:17 PM	#830
davehead86 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Monticello, IL Posts: 819	Im thinking about biting the bullet and buy an M1 for my return pump. Close to 8 feet of head pressure. 65 gallon with durso that pulls 700 GPH down the drain. I know that ill be ok (read close to maximum speed and GPH i need at that height) with the GPH the pump can provide but as I read this thread IM noticing that the pretty blue fittings that are for quick connect reduce the pipe size. How much does this effect the head pressure / flow rate? Can I just glue into the pump with a union fitting to solve this problem and keep the listed flow rates? __________________ My build thread http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?p=24225945#post24225945 Current Tank: 65 Gallon Mixed Reef\| 40B Sump\| 2 Radion Gen 3's\| 2 MP10wes\| Vectra M1 \| Reefkeeper Lite

04/03/2016, 02:38 PM	#833
Johnseye Reef Addict Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Naperville, IL. Posts: 1,196	Is the L1 a good return pump for a 260g DT with about 10 to 12 ft. of head? __________________ - John New 260g build thread: http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2557715 Current Tank Info: 260g reef, Giesemann Spectra MH/T5/Kessil A160, Dastaco CaRx, Vortechs, Lifereef skimmer, Red Dragon 3, Apex, Genesis, Angles, Tang, Trigger, Clowns, Anthias, Wrasses, Cardinals, SPS, LPS

05/06/2016, 03:30 PM	#843
davehead86 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Monticello, IL Posts: 819	Has anyone ordered the battery booster cable and recieved it? I want to know what the dimension are for the plug ends themselves both into the backup and then into the Driver. I want to make my own battery backup similarly to my homemade MP 10 backups and need those dimensions to order the parts from China. __________________ My build thread http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?p=24225945#post24225945 Current Tank: 65 Gallon Mixed Reef\| 40B Sump\| 2 Radion Gen 3's\| 2 MP10wes\| Vectra M1 \| Reefkeeper Lite

05/08/2016, 09:54 PM	#848
mfinn Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Olympia. WA. Posts: 8,648	My Vectras are very quiet. I have a L1 and a M1. IMO they are a very good option. __________________ 240 gallon soft coral tank 50 gallon lps tank

03/30/2016, 04:53 AM	#831
dangros Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Reston, VA Posts: 173	For 10 bucks you can get the fitting which screws around the outside. I did this but then ended up coming down in size at the barb which connects to the silicone tubing anyhow. I only go up 4' to my 90g but I have it on the lowest setting and have more than enough flow. I suspect you'll be fine either either way.

04/05/2016, 04:21 PM	#839
Cammunoz Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Posts: 547	I jus got one good quality only bummer is i can only use it as a return pump since i only have 1 but heres how i plumbed it

04/13/2016, 05:46 PM	#840
DNA Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Iceland Posts: 1,516	I have a simple question on the Vectra M1. Can I connect 1.25" (32mm) pipe directly to the output with the optional slip adapter? ---- This pumps 0.75" output size is the biggest design and marketing flop I've seen in 2016 and the confusion around it makes my head spin.

05/06/2016, 02:35 PM	#841
DNA Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Iceland Posts: 1,516	For Europe: A 32mm endcap fits snugly into the outlet adapter. Saw the end off the end-cap, minor sanding could help since it may fit too snugly for the glue. Then clue a standard 32mm pipe into the now double open ended endcap.

05/07/2016, 05:07 PM	#845
Acrononomus Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Posts: 173	Just got mine today! Can't wait to get them installed I will be switching from 2 barracuda reef flo pumps, I am mostly doing this for sound, the hum of the reeflo had just become too much .....

05/08/2016, 08:24 PM	#847
EagleI Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: So-Cal Posts: 54	I'm on the verge of pulling the trigger on two L1 pumps. My set up is as follows: 240g DT, 60g sump. I was thinking I would do (x1) L1 for return and (x1) L1 for closed loop. I need pumps that will be reliable and most importantly, QUIET. I will have the sump under the tank so there is very minimal head loss. Are these my best option?

05/10/2016, 07:12 PM	#849
02tts Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Palm Beaches Posts: 671	Having 2 L1 for return and one for a closed loop. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk