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Unread 01/21/2009, 06:56 AM   #826
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The LFS that recently went out of buisness near me used to sell those in ther saltwater section. It'll be interesting to see how long he lives. I've done mollies in my tank before, they do fine. The large reef tank at the local hospital has a couple of mollies that reproduce all the time.


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Unread 01/21/2009, 07:02 AM   #827
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Sugar, thanks for the reply, yes I have kept mollies for years in salt but I hope these bumblebees last,. They are very cheap and good looking. Most brackish fish can tolerate full salt fo9r a while but I would like it to last at least a few years. I doubt their lifespan is much longer than that.
He seems fine, now I have to see if I can feed it in a reef full of much faster fish.


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Unread 01/21/2009, 09:23 AM   #828
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I was going to collect some amphipods and mud today but I thought it would not be prudent at this time.
Thats not really a pic from your area is it?


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Unread 01/21/2009, 09:35 AM   #830
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Interesting little fish that Bumblebee. I have kept them before in a brackish setup. I hope you keep us up to date on it's status.


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Unread 01/21/2009, 09:43 AM   #831
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Thats not really a pic from your area is it?
No, it's not my area, it's also my background.
So far the bumble bee looks fine but it has only been one day. Today I will see if I can get him to eat some live worms. If he eats, he should be fine


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Unread 01/21/2009, 02:17 PM   #832
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I was getting worried with the bumblebee because i couldn't find him all day but the tank is 6' long and he is about a half an inch.
I did locate him and shot some live blackworms at him expecting him to run for cover but he went out and battled the Bangai cardinal for them and the cardinal is many times his size. I think he will do fine.


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Unread 01/21/2009, 02:18 PM   #833
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Your tank is older than I am . Just comes to show what patience and dedication can result into.


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Unread 01/21/2009, 02:31 PM   #834
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It also goes to show what getting old can do


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Unread 01/22/2009, 12:42 AM   #835
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very cool, thanks for the pictures.


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Unread 01/22/2009, 08:30 AM   #836
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Too Cool Paul! I've been toying making my 150 tank into a seahorse, pipefish tank. I wonder how gobies would do with them? Any idea?


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Unread 01/22/2009, 10:43 AM   #837
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Gobies would do well with seahorses as I have pipefish in my reef with a load of gobies. The smaller gobies eat live baby brine as do small pipefish


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Unread 01/22/2009, 10:43 AM   #838
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Gobies would do wekk with seahorses as I have pipefish in my reef with a load of gobies. The smaller gobies eat live baby brine as do small pipefish


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Unread 01/22/2009, 10:46 AM   #839
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Re: almost 35 year old reef pictures

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My reef will be 35 years old in a few weeks
wow.. talk about established!!

good job on the tank, looks great!


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Unread 01/22/2009, 10:53 AM   #840
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Re: Re: almost 35 year old reef pictures

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wow.. talk about established!!

good job on the tank, looks great!
I believe that post was dated in 2005. It's going on 39 years old now!!!


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Unread 01/22/2009, 10:54 AM   #841
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Gobies would do well with seahorses as I have pipefish in my reef with a load of gobies. The smaller gobies eat live baby brine as do small pipefish
Hmmmmm, makes me want to consider this even more!


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Unread 01/22/2009, 01:35 PM   #842
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Hmmmmm, makes me want to consider this even more!
No, don't do that. I think all of you people should stick with DSBs. I like having the oldest tank

My goal is to live at least 21 more years, then the tank will be 60 years old. I think thats when Old Tank Syndrome kicks in.


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Unread 01/22/2009, 01:38 PM   #843
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No, don't do that. I think all of you people should stick with DSBs. I like having the oldest tank

My goal is to live at least 21 more years, then the tank will be 60 years old. I think thats when Old Tank Syndrome kicks in.
I don't have a DSB!

I hope you make your goal and then some!


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Unread 01/22/2009, 06:41 PM   #844
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Hello Paul--I have a about 2"SB in my DT. In my sump I have a section with 6-8" DSB. What exactly is wrong with DSB. I am a little confussed(which doesn't take much)----Jerry


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Unread 01/22/2009, 07:09 PM   #845
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Ok then, Your tank should last forever.

Jerry, there is nothing wrong with DSBs, I just don't like them or feel they do anything beneficial but don't forget, there are
11,000 people on here who will disagree with me. If I were you, I would probably listen to them.
I have my own reasons. I don't want to get into a DSB discussion.
Too many people on here could beat me up


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Unread 01/24/2009, 11:37 AM   #846
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Hello Paul--I have a about 2"SB in my DT. In my sump I have a section with 6-8" DSB. What exactly is wrong with DSB. I am a little confussed(which doesn't take much)----Jerry

There is nothing wrong with running a dsb remotely as in a fuge or in your sump/fuge. This way you can service it properly without concern for your main tank and the inhabitants in it.
Although dsb's can effectively reduce nitrates--so can cheato macro and at the same time reduce phosphates too.
A chaeto macro fuge doesn't seem to become problematic after 3 or 4 years like a DSB can possibly come.

Dsb's are discussed on this thread (with some of Paul's expertise too
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http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/sh...&pagenumber=23


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Unread 01/24/2009, 12:39 PM   #847
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Yesterday I acclimated a bumblebee gobi to the tank. Yes I know they are a brackish fish but it is just a test. So far he is doing well and if he lookes stressed or does not eat I will try to remove him. My last brackish fish, a figure eight puffer lived 12 years in full saltwater. These bumble bee gobies are about $3.00 and I would like to see if I can get the same longivity from them. If they can acclimate well, they would be great for a nano as they are under an inch, are captive bred and very cheap.
http://www.aquahobby.com/gallery/e_bumble.php
Keep us posted on how the bumblebees work out in the long term!

Did you have any problems with your figure 8 puffer trying to eat snails or hermits when it was in your tank? I know they stay small, but when I had one, it sure loved snails.

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Unread 01/24/2009, 01:17 PM   #848
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That's awesome that your tank is that old!


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Unread 01/24/2009, 01:31 PM   #849
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Eric, it is only four years older than you

That figure 8 puffer was not in a tank with snails. I used to feed it snails sometimes that I would crush.
I also removed a large tumor from his belly but he lived 12 years after that. Those things will eat anything and I really like them but of course not in a reef. When they get old, they tend to lay around a lot, just like people. He was full grown when I got him so I would imagine he lived a good long life.
The bumblebee is still doing fine and he eats well. I can rarely find him as he likes to stay in a cave and always a different cave.
Most of the caves I can't see far enough into to locate him but as of today he is still fine. I doubt he will find enough food on his own so I need to target feed him in my tank so if he wants to eat, he needs to let me know where he is.


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Unread 01/24/2009, 04:35 PM   #850
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When they get old, they tend to lay around a lot, just like people.


Paul,


I'll have you know, that I resemble that remark.




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