Melev's new 280g Starfire tank thread - Page 34

Electrobes · 08/03/2006, 12:53 AM

My God Melev.. is there something the Reef gods won't throw at you?

steve68 · 08/03/2006, 05:08 AM

so are they AEFW?

NexDog · 08/03/2006, 09:45 AM

Yea, I think that has been confirmed.

After reading what Travis (I think it was Travis) went through with AEFWs I ordered a few bottles of Tropic Marin Pro Coral Cure as it's one of the few dips known to kill these buggers. I dipped my last batch of coral in this stuff and will do with all new coral too.

clkwrk · 08/03/2006, 11:41 AM

I am glad to see I am not the only one who likes TMPCC . The trick is to continue treatments even after you havent seen them for a month .

raddogz · 08/03/2006, 02:16 PM

I am still doing dips every week. It's one good thing about not having a canopy is that I have to stand for about two hours to dip each and every frag and blow any flatworms off.

It's a good thing that at leasts Marc has a back room with and open top in which to access all his corals.

melev · 08/03/2006, 02:23 PM

Finally a GREAT reason not to have woodwork.

melev · 08/03/2006, 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by NexDog
Yea, I think that has been confirmed.

After reading what Travis (I think it was Travis) went through with AEFWs I ordered a few bottles of Tropic Marin Pro Coral Cure as it's one of the few dips known to kill these buggers. I dipped my last batch of coral in this stuff and will do with all new coral too.

I was going to add it to order with Marine Depot, but they didn't carry it. Where did you get yours?

clkwrk · 08/03/2006, 02:38 PM

********** usually has it and any TM dealer can get it for you .

raddogz · 08/03/2006, 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by melev
Finally a GREAT reason not to have woodwork.

Exactly!!!!

At least that's my excuse

Stile2 · 08/03/2006, 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by melev
Finally a GREAT reason not to have woodwork.

Because of Melev's advice I started to clean my skimmer daily. That's my excuse for not doing the woodwork!!

Keith

melev · 08/03/2006, 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Stile2
Because of Melev's advice I started to clean my skimmer daily. That's my excuse for not doing the woodwork!!

Keith

Join me, one and all.

jnarowe · 08/03/2006, 06:09 PM

NOOOOoooooooo!!!!!

Stile2 · 08/03/2006, 06:15 PM

Melev

steve68 · 08/03/2006, 07:35 PM

Marc u know can get a big door that just opens up, cuz if u think about ur walls are in the way anyway LMAO.
i'll say it takes u another year

NexDog · 08/03/2006, 10:43 PM

Yea, ********** for me too. I just dipped new corals once but I think it might be prudent to setup a QT tanks and dip a few times when first receiving corals. But I don't have teh space for another QT tank so maybe the frag section in the sump can contain any nasties.

melev · 08/03/2006, 11:39 PM

No, it really can't. Imagine putting them in the frag/prop section of your sump. Any "nasties" can fall off and travel into the rest of the system.

I'm starting to consider enlarging my fishroom a few more feet just so I can incorporate a new prop/quarantine tank and keep my life somewhat simple at the same time.

clkwrk · 08/03/2006, 11:45 PM

Marc 1 bottle of TMPCC can treat a lil 10g tank packed full of acros.

Until you get setup you can take em out use egg crate or whatever to get the most in the tank as you can . Then take them out and place in rubbermaids or something with tank water thats where you should blow them off before replacing them into the display . That should put a good dent in them . Oh don't forget to scape off any eggs that you see.

melev · 08/04/2006, 12:10 AM

I talked with Marine Depot today about getting some TMPCC, so hopefully that will get shipped out pretty soon.

In the meantime, I need to read more about how to treat that stuff. I think this weekend will be when I have time to study up on this.

Btw, I hate the idea of tearing my tank apart to remove the acros. Heck, now I want another VorTech for the separate system, if I go that route.

I'm even toying with the thought of moving the wall in the fish room so I can enlarge an area to hold the tank and keep the system reasonably stable and yet near the reef.

NexDog · 08/04/2006, 12:25 AM

To TMPCC users. As a preventative measure, how many dips are required over what timeframe? For eample, say you get an order of new acros but can't see any AEFWs but still want to be sure. How many dips over how many days is safe?

clkwrk · 08/04/2006, 12:27 AM

once a week for 4 weeks ......IMO is the safest way

NexDog · 08/04/2006, 12:58 AM

Yikes. (Looks around room to place new 50g tank)

melev · 08/04/2006, 01:09 AM

So here is a view of the fishroom wall I'm thinking I might move. As you can see, two years later and it still is unfinished.

Let's just assume I'm a pretty busy guy.

I think I could expand the wall more to the left after moving my stockpile of Kent buckets

leaving the door where it is. It would create an alcove somewhat.

The other wall isn't really an option, unless I expanded underneath the A/C unit. The lumber is probably a little misleading, but it's just leaning there.

The big question is how many square or cubic feet can an 8000 BTU a/c cool? The room is currently 7 x 7 x 8, or 392 cubic feet. If I added a new 4 x 2 x 8 section, it would increase the room by 64 cubic feet, creating some extra space for a couple of options. Would that end up over-taxing the a/c unit at 456 cubic feet?

I've recently considered adding a dehumidifier to the fishroom to lessen the burden on the a/c unit as well as the help protect the house from moisture damage (I see rust on the home A/C duct vents), but don't know how much power one of those units pulls. The last thing I want to do is add more to my power bill. I was hoping they'd kind of work in conjunction and level each other out.

Please ignore the mess.

steve68 · 08/04/2006, 03:39 AM

if i where u i would just move that whole wall with the door on it & get a bigger ac unit along with a dehumidifier, then i could see you not doing the wood work in front of ur tank for at least 2 years

jnarowe · 08/04/2006, 08:06 AM

That mess is ART!

Couple questions:

1. Where do you get your mag flake?
2. Is this side of the wall your garage?

If so, I would remove the wall and switch to an undergound cooling loop. That will cost a lot less in the long run and give you all the space you need.

melev · 08/04/2006, 01:29 PM

Steve - I can't remove the walls as the garage gets very hot.

Jonathan - The Mag Flake was part of a Group Buy DFWMAS did a few months ago. I just tested my Mg and it was 1380, so I still don't need to open the new bag quite yet. I don't even recall what I paid for it. Maybe $35 shipped for a 50# bag.

The fishroom is not against an exterior wall of the house. And the house is a slab foundation. The soil is not condusive to my digging up the yard for a cooling loop anyway, plus I enjoy that the fish room is pleasant when I enter it. It stays at a constant 78F all summer long.

All - any comments on increasing the room and having enough BTUs to cool it?

08/03/2006, 12:53 AM	#826
Electrobes Montipora type guy Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Fort Myers, FL Posts: 2,945	My God Melev.. is there something the Reef gods won't throw at you? __________________ Christian Current Tank Info: 100G Half Cylinder

08/03/2006, 05:08 AM	#827
steve68 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Piscataway,NJ Posts: 4,058	so are they AEFW? __________________ "Never Give Up Never Surrender" Current Tank Info: 50 Breeder with 250w MH 10k XM bulb & 2 24inch VHO atinic 03,210 gallon Reef tank. 3 250 W MH,MRC CR-2 Reactor & MR-2 Skimmer,150 gallon sump,125 gallon refugium,75 Gallon Frag Tank & adding more water volume every t

08/03/2006, 09:45 AM	#828
NexDog Snail Killer Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Kyushu, Japan Posts: 4,804	Yea, I think that has been confirmed. After reading what Travis (I think it was Travis) went through with AEFWs I ordered a few bottles of Tropic Marin Pro Coral Cure as it's one of the few dips known to kill these buggers. I dipped my last batch of coral in this stuff and will do with all new coral too. __________________ Laurence Flynn 340g In-Wall Envision Tank and 150g Sump. Current Tank Info: Deltec 902, PFO hood with 3x400w Radium 20k and 4x96w PC's. Hammerhead closed loop - and 2 x Tunze 6105 (and Vortech still sucks).

08/03/2006, 11:41 AM	#829
clkwrk Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Mesa ,Az Posts: 10,257	I am glad to see I am not the only one who likes TMPCC . The trick is to continue treatments even after you havent seen them for a month . __________________ ------- Feel free to use my photos for ONLY informative sites, education or enjoyment.All I ask is to include my Reef Central User id and where you got the photo ( RC).

08/03/2006, 02:16 PM	#830
raddogz Premium Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Bay Area Posts: 3,167	I am still doing dips every week. It's one good thing about not having a canopy is that I have to stand for about two hours to dip each and every frag and blow any flatworms off. It's a good thing that at leasts Marc has a back room with and open top in which to access all his corals. __________________ Eileen If at first you don't succeed, failure may be your style. - Quentin Crisp Current Tank Info: 180g Reef

08/03/2006, 02:23 PM	#831
melev Moved On Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Ft Worth, Tx Posts: 43,217	Finally a GREAT reason not to have woodwork.

08/03/2006, 02:38 PM	#833
clkwrk Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Mesa ,Az Posts: 10,257	********** usually has it and any TM dealer can get it for you . __________________ ------- Feel free to use my photos for ONLY informative sites, education or enjoyment.All I ask is to include my Reef Central User id and where you got the photo ( RC).

08/03/2006, 06:09 PM	#837
jnarowe Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Poulsbo, WA Posts: 14,710	NOOOOoooooooo!!!!! __________________ Jonathan--Recovering Tankaholic. Current Tank Info: 70g fresh planted

08/03/2006, 06:15 PM	#838
Stile2 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Yucaipa, California (some little town you've never heard of) Posts: 1,624	Melev __________________ If you have a college degree, you can be sure of one thing. You have a college degree! Superman owns Chuck Norris Pajamas!! Current Tank Info: 77 Gallon Custom peninsula 3 sides viewable, DIY Steel Stand, OM Squirt, 2 x 250 w MH, 2 x 95 w VHO, DIY Skimmer

08/03/2006, 07:35 PM	#839
steve68 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Piscataway,NJ Posts: 4,058	Marc u know can get a big door that just opens up, cuz if u think about ur walls are in the way anyway LMAO. i'll say it takes u another year __________________ "Never Give Up Never Surrender" Current Tank Info: 50 Breeder with 250w MH 10k XM bulb & 2 24inch VHO atinic 03,210 gallon Reef tank. 3 250 W MH,MRC CR-2 Reactor & MR-2 Skimmer,150 gallon sump,125 gallon refugium,75 Gallon Frag Tank & adding more water volume every t

08/03/2006, 10:43 PM	#840
NexDog Snail Killer Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Kyushu, Japan Posts: 4,804	Yea, ********** for me too. I just dipped new corals once but I think it might be prudent to setup a QT tanks and dip a few times when first receiving corals. But I don't have teh space for another QT tank so maybe the frag section in the sump can contain any nasties. __________________ Laurence Flynn 340g In-Wall Envision Tank and 150g Sump. Current Tank Info: Deltec 902, PFO hood with 3x400w Radium 20k and 4x96w PC's. Hammerhead closed loop - and 2 x Tunze 6105 (and Vortech still sucks).

08/03/2006, 11:39 PM	#841
melev Moved On Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Ft Worth, Tx Posts: 43,217	No, it really can't. Imagine putting them in the frag/prop section of your sump. Any "nasties" can fall off and travel into the rest of the system. I'm starting to consider enlarging my fishroom a few more feet just so I can incorporate a new prop/quarantine tank and keep my life somewhat simple at the same time.

08/03/2006, 11:45 PM	#842
clkwrk Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Mesa ,Az Posts: 10,257	Marc 1 bottle of TMPCC can treat a lil 10g tank packed full of acros. Until you get setup you can take em out use egg crate or whatever to get the most in the tank as you can . Then take them out and place in rubbermaids or something with tank water thats where you should blow them off before replacing them into the display . That should put a good dent in them . Oh don't forget to scape off any eggs that you see. __________________ ------- Feel free to use my photos for ONLY informative sites, education or enjoyment.All I ask is to include my Reef Central User id and where you got the photo ( RC).

08/04/2006, 12:10 AM	#843
melev Moved On Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Ft Worth, Tx Posts: 43,217	I talked with Marine Depot today about getting some TMPCC, so hopefully that will get shipped out pretty soon. In the meantime, I need to read more about how to treat that stuff. I think this weekend will be when I have time to study up on this. Btw, I hate the idea of tearing my tank apart to remove the acros. Heck, now I want another VorTech for the separate system, if I go that route. I'm even toying with the thought of moving the wall in the fish room so I can enlarge an area to hold the tank and keep the system reasonably stable and yet near the reef.

08/04/2006, 12:25 AM	#844
NexDog Snail Killer Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Kyushu, Japan Posts: 4,804	To TMPCC users. As a preventative measure, how many dips are required over what timeframe? For eample, say you get an order of new acros but can't see any AEFWs but still want to be sure. How many dips over how many days is safe? __________________ Laurence Flynn 340g In-Wall Envision Tank and 150g Sump. Current Tank Info: Deltec 902, PFO hood with 3x400w Radium 20k and 4x96w PC's. Hammerhead closed loop - and 2 x Tunze 6105 (and Vortech still sucks).

08/04/2006, 12:27 AM	#845
clkwrk Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Mesa ,Az Posts: 10,257	once a week for 4 weeks ......IMO is the safest way __________________ ------- Feel free to use my photos for ONLY informative sites, education or enjoyment.All I ask is to include my Reef Central User id and where you got the photo ( RC).

08/04/2006, 12:58 AM	#846
NexDog Snail Killer Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Kyushu, Japan Posts: 4,804	Yikes. (Looks around room to place new 50g tank) __________________ Laurence Flynn 340g In-Wall Envision Tank and 150g Sump. Current Tank Info: Deltec 902, PFO hood with 3x400w Radium 20k and 4x96w PC's. Hammerhead closed loop - and 2 x Tunze 6105 (and Vortech still sucks).

08/04/2006, 01:09 AM	#847
melev Moved On Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Ft Worth, Tx Posts: 43,217	So here is a view of the fishroom wall I'm thinking I might move. As you can see, two years later and it still is unfinished. Let's just assume I'm a pretty busy guy. I think I could expand the wall more to the left after moving my stockpile of Kent buckets leaving the door where it is. It would create an alcove somewhat. The other wall isn't really an option, unless I expanded underneath the A/C unit. The lumber is probably a little misleading, but it's just leaning there. The big question is how many square or cubic feet can an 8000 BTU a/c cool? The room is currently 7 x 7 x 8, or 392 cubic feet. If I added a new 4 x 2 x 8 section, it would increase the room by 64 cubic feet, creating some extra space for a couple of options. Would that end up over-taxing the a/c unit at 456 cubic feet? I've recently considered adding a dehumidifier to the fishroom to lessen the burden on the a/c unit as well as the help protect the house from moisture damage (I see rust on the home A/C duct vents), but don't know how much power one of those units pulls. The last thing I want to do is add more to my power bill. I was hoping they'd kind of work in conjunction and level each other out. Please ignore the mess.

08/04/2006, 03:39 AM	#848
steve68 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Piscataway,NJ Posts: 4,058	if i where u i would just move that whole wall with the door on it & get a bigger ac unit along with a dehumidifier, then i could see you not doing the wood work in front of ur tank for at least 2 years __________________ "Never Give Up Never Surrender" Current Tank Info: 50 Breeder with 250w MH 10k XM bulb & 2 24inch VHO atinic 03,210 gallon Reef tank. 3 250 W MH,MRC CR-2 Reactor & MR-2 Skimmer,150 gallon sump,125 gallon refugium,75 Gallon Frag Tank & adding more water volume every t

08/04/2006, 08:06 AM	#849
jnarowe Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Poulsbo, WA Posts: 14,710	That mess is ART! Couple questions: 1. Where do you get your mag flake? 2. Is this side of the wall your garage? If so, I would remove the wall and switch to an undergound cooling loop. That will cost a lot less in the long run and give you all the space you need. __________________ Jonathan--Recovering Tankaholic. Current Tank Info: 70g fresh planted

08/04/2006, 01:29 PM	#850
melev Moved On Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Ft Worth, Tx Posts: 43,217	Steve - I can't remove the walls as the garage gets very hot. Jonathan - The Mag Flake was part of a Group Buy DFWMAS did a few months ago. I just tested my Mg and it was 1380, so I still don't need to open the new bag quite yet. I don't even recall what I paid for it. Maybe $35 shipped for a 50# bag. The fishroom is not against an exterior wall of the house. And the house is a slab foundation. The soil is not condusive to my digging up the yard for a cooling loop anyway, plus I enjoy that the fish room is pleasant when I enter it. It stays at a constant 78F all summer long. All - any comments on increasing the room and having enough BTUs to cool it?