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Unread 01/02/2014, 11:57 AM   #8576
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Small changes to original plan

I have a 90 G with 30 G sump 130 LBS of live rock and 3" fine sand bed. This will be a FOWLR tank.

Pair of Ocellaris Clownfish
Pair of tank bred Banggai Cardinals
1 Coral Beauty
1 Kole Tang
1 Diamond Goby
1 Klein butterfly
1 Foxface Lo
1 Yellow tang

If anything I would consider removing the Foxface if compatability or bioload is an issue.

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Unread 01/02/2014, 12:00 PM   #8577
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I have a 90 G with 30 G sump 130 LBS of live rock and 3" fine sand bed. This will be a FOWLR tank.

Pair of Ocellaris Clownfish
Pair of tank bred Banggai Cardinals
1 Coral Beauty
1 Kole Tang
1 Diamond Goby
1 Klein butterfly
1 Foxface Lo
1 Yellow tang

If anything I would consider removing the Foxface if compatability or bioload is an issue.

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bioload and behavior is fine, I am, however, concerned about three large grazers in this sized tank. Be aware that a yellow tang, once established, will make it very, very difficult to add fish, so it must be the last fish added.


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Unread 01/02/2014, 01:31 PM   #8578
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Can multiple Pygmy Wrasses be kept together

or are they a bonded pair type of fish?

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Unread 01/02/2014, 01:33 PM   #8579
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or are they a bonded pair type of fish?

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I do not know. I suspect that they can be, especially in a longish (six feet or more) tank. There are three species and I also would guess they can be mixed.


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Unread 01/02/2014, 01:45 PM   #8580
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I do not know. I suspect that they can be, especially in a longish (six feet or more) tank. There are three species and I also would guess they can be mixed.
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Unread 01/02/2014, 06:44 PM   #8581
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thank you for your advice snorvich, i will remove the blonde naso tang from my list, if the tank was 7' long, i would most likely be able to do it. but being a 6' i can see how he would go from one end to the other in no time. ill most likely remove the yellow tail damsels from the list also. as far as the tangs i want to incorporate into the tank. i will research and plan a better approach. i like the yellow and powder blues. so i will check back here when i have a better idea of what i want..thanx again...


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thank you for your advice snorvich, i will remove the blonde naso tang from my list, if the tank was 7' long, i would most likely be able to do it. but being a 6' i can see how he would go from one end to the other in no time. ill most likely remove the yellow tail damsels from the list also. as far as the tangs i want to incorporate into the tank. i will research and plan a better approach. i like the yellow and powder blues. so i will check back here when i have a better idea of what i want..thanx again...
always a pleasure. Feel free to check back. I am always careful about tangs with regard to tank length since they have a tendency to "pace" on shorter tanks which makes most people crazy.


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Unread 01/02/2014, 06:56 PM   #8583
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Looking to put a yellow clown (coral) goby in a nano reef with a true perc. I've heard mixed reviews as to if it is a reef safe fish. Please advise.

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Looking to put a yellow clown (coral) goby in a nano reef with a true perc. I've heard mixed reviews as to if it is a reef safe fish. Please advise.

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While they perch, their bad rep comes from laying eggs on sps corals which can cause tissue recession. In a large tank, with many locations, that is not a long term problem. With a small tank, it may be more of an issue.


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Unread 01/03/2014, 10:08 AM   #8585
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I have 5 fish in my 120 right now that I plan to move over to my new 180, plus 1 in QT right now. They are:

1 Yellow tang
1 Kole tang (in QT)
1 royal gramma (mean)
1 blue/green chromis
2 Ocellaris Clownfish

I want to add a flame hawk and some type of blennie or dragonet. Would these two be a good addition to my group, and are the two comptable? LA's description on the flame hawk says: "Use caution when adding to an aquarium with small species of bottom dwelling gobies and blennies." So I was thinking maybe a starry blenny or a mandarin that are the same size or bigger than the flame hawk. I have a 25 gallon refugium with plenty of pods already running on the 180 system.


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Unread 01/03/2014, 10:35 AM   #8586
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First off, Snorvich thank you for all of the insight and help.

I currently have a standard 65 gallon. It is filled with a mix of soft corals and LPS.

Currently I have 2 occellaris clowns, 1 candy hogfish, 1 melanurus wrasse, 1 chromis, and 1 lawnmower blenny. All are doing quite well and are getting along.

I am interested in adding one blue mandarin and a flame angel (I am willing to risk some of the corals, I have always wanted one).

Would this be feasible?


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Unread 01/03/2014, 01:47 PM   #8587
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I got the tank filled after your insight and they are a happy family Steve. Thanks a ton.


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I have 5 fish in my 120 right now that I plan to move over to my new 180, plus 1 in QT right now. They are:

1 Yellow tang
1 Kole tang (in QT)
1 royal gramma (mean)
1 blue/green chromis
2 Ocellaris Clownfish

I want to add a flame hawk and some type of blennie or dragonet. Would these two be a good addition to my group, and are the two comptable? LA's description on the flame hawk says: "Use caution when adding to an aquarium with small species of bottom dwelling gobies and blennies." So I was thinking maybe a starry blenny or a mandarin that are the same size or bigger than the flame hawk. I have a 25 gallon refugium with plenty of pods already running on the 180 system.
Those fish should be fine. Flame Hawks will eat small fish and most shrimp. Your biggest problem with be the yellow tang once it is established.


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Unread 01/03/2014, 03:21 PM   #8589
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First off, Snorvich thank you for all of the insight and help.

I currently have a standard 65 gallon. It is filled with a mix of soft corals and LPS.

Currently I have 2 occellaris clowns, 1 candy hogfish, 1 melanurus wrasse, 1 chromis, and 1 lawnmower blenny. All are doing quite well and are getting along.

I am interested in adding one blue mandarin and a flame angel (I am willing to risk some of the corals, I have always wanted one).

Would this be feasible?
The flame angel really needs a larger tank especially with another algae eater. The mandarin is marginal for this tank size but with no other copepod eaters, may be ok.


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I got the tank filled after your insight and they are a happy family Steve. Thanks a ton.
Your success is my happiness. You are most welcome.


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Unread 01/03/2014, 04:16 PM   #8591
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Hi Steve,

I have decided to skip the jawfish after trying to keep 2 tanks going during the holidays at work.

Here's what I have so far: 40B w/ 20L sump
Astrea & Turbo Snails
Skunk & Fire Shrimp
Peppermint Shrimp
Randall Goby/Tiger Pistol Pair
LPS

Proposed additions:
Helfrichi Firefish - next kid in the pool
Gold Assessor
Tailspot Blenny
Possum Wrasse
Pink Streaked Wrasse
Cardinal - some type of peaceful one kept singly
Sexy Shrimp

Is there anything else I can look at fish wise that won't share the same niche as the fish listed above? Thank you again for all your help.


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Hi Steve,

I have decided to skip the jawfish after trying to keep 2 tanks going during the holidays at work.

Here's what I have so far: 40B w/ 20L sump
Astrea & Turbo Snails
Skunk & Fire Shrimp
Peppermint Shrimp
Randall Goby/Tiger Pistol Pair
LPS

Proposed additions:
Helfrichi Firefish - next kid in the pool
Gold Assessor
Tailspot Blenny
Possum Wrasse
Pink Streaked Wrasse
Cardinal - some type of peaceful one kept singly
Sexy Shrimp

Is there anything else I can look at fish wise that won't share the same niche as the fish listed above? Thank you again for all your help.
Excellent stocking plan. I am concerned about any cardinal fish with sexy shrimp


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Unread 01/03/2014, 05:40 PM   #8593
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Question Am I Ready for A Mandarin?

I have a 16-month old tank. 90 gallons, 20 gallon sump, 100+ pounds live rock, 1.5 inch sand bed. Lots of purple growing on rock, etc. Except for some cyano (periodic - solved with blackouts) and some algae that my Florida Turbos seem to be addressing, there's nothing wrong. Healthy colonies of Zoas, some mushrooms, a couple of rapidly growing Birdsnests, Monti,etc. Oh yeah, a green bubbletip, too.

Other fish & inverts:
2 Emerald Crabs
Cleaner Shrimp
Peppermint Shrimp
Bonded pair of Black O. Clowns
Long nosed hawk
5 Green Chromis
Yellow Tang (I know, but he's totally happy and will go back to LFS if he starts to act squirrelly.)
Bar Goby

Question: What are the odds of my successfully keeping a Mandarin? (The common Green variety.)

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I have a 16-month old tank. 90 gallons, 20 gallon sump, 100+ pounds live rock, 1.5 inch sand bed. Lots of purple growing on rock, etc. Except for some cyano (periodic - solved with blackouts) and some algae that my Florida Turbos seem to be addressing, there's nothing wrong. Healthy colonies of Zoas, some mushrooms, a couple of rapidly growing Birdsnests, Monti,etc. Oh yeah, a green bubbletip, too.

Other fish & inverts:
2 Emerald Crabs
Cleaner Shrimp
Peppermint Shrimp
Bonded pair of Black O. Clowns
Long nosed hawk
5 Green Chromis
Yellow Tang (I know, but he's totally happy and will go back to LFS if he starts to act squirrelly.)
Bar Goby

Question: What are the odds of my successfully keeping a Mandarin? (The common Green variety.)

Thanks to all!
I won't address the issues with your existing stocking since you obviously do not want to hear. A mandarin should be ok, but tank size is borderline.


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I won't address the issues with your existing stocking since you obviously do not want to hear. A mandarin should be ok, but tank size is borderline.



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Unread 01/03/2014, 07:51 PM   #8596
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75 gallons. Currently a FOWLR, but will eventually become a reef. I only have a skimmer and plenty of LR for now but will add a sump in a few months.

3 clearfin squirrelfish (already added)
1 maroon clown w/ bubble tip OR 2 clarkii w/carpet
1 one spot foxface
1 lyretail hog
1 female bellus angel
1 anthias (not sure which, please suggest!)
1 mandarin dragonet

I'd like to add the mandarin after I can set up a sump with plenty of pod piles, but tss presence is totally negotiable. I just want to have a good balance between warm and cool colors. Thanks


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75 gallons. Currently a FOWLR, but will eventually become a reef. I only have a skimmer and plenty of LR for now but will add a sump in a few months.

3 clearfin squirrelfish (already added) nocturnal, will not do much with lights on and not invert safe
1 maroon clown w/ bubble tip very aggressive


OR 2 clarkii w/carpet not compatible with mandarin and note that carpets eat fish; clarkii are also very aggressive
1 one spot foxface needs larger tank
1 lyretail hog
1 female bellus angel needs larger tank
1 anthias (not sure which, please suggest!) needs to be fed three times per day for success
1 mandarin dragonet tank size marginal for mandarin and will not coexist with carpet anemone

I'd like to add the mandarin after I can set up a sump with plenty of pod piles, but tss presence is totally negotiable. I just want to have a good balance between warm and cool colors. Thanks



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I can handle the thrice daily feedings for the anthias, since I don't have a busy schedule. LiveAquaria says the minimum tank size for a foxface is 70 gallons so how large a tank does it need? I can add the clown last to minimize aggression and get a safer anemone. Are long tentacles a better choice? I'd like to add a purple tilefish instead of the mandarin. Thanks for the fast reply.


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I can handle the thrice daily feedings for the anthias, since I don't have a busy schedule. LiveAquaria says the minimum tank size for a foxface is 70 gallons so how large a tank does it need?

The LA requirement is fine but if you add in a bellus angel with its high activity level, it is more of a problem. Note that the foxface is reef safe ONLY if well fed

I can add the clown last to minimize aggression and get a safer anemone. Are long tentacles a better choice?

bubble tips are fine, but either of the species of clownfish will want to control about 50 gallons of tank space after they are mature so adding them last, while good, is probably not sufficient. Especially so with a carpet anemone

I'd like to add a purple tilefish instead of the mandarin. a better choice

Thanks for the fast reply.



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I have a 90 LPs and softy tank ~120lbs of live rock 30gallon sump/refuge with 25lbs of live rock and lots of macro algae packed with pods tank has been setup for 2 years.

here's the current stock
1.scooter blenny
1.green coral goby
1.green chromis
1yellow eye kole tang
1.orange shoulder tang
2.firefighter gobies
2. True perc Picassos
3.damsels-sold to me as sunset chromis soon to be caught and sold
2.mollies that I converted

Here what I have In qt
3. Ora black cardinals---invert safe? I've heard mixed things
1. Tailspot blenny

Here's what im thinking about
3-flasher wrasses or anthias not positive on which kinds will work in my tank
1-2.red mandarins
1.ruby red dragonet
1. Japanese swallow tail angel
1. Lawnmower or starry blenny
1. Blue hippo tang

Any suggestions or tips welcome about bioload,compatibility,or anything else.


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