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[Liverocknroll]

All of the fish within the tank are considered "Reef safe", atleast with caution, and the inhabitants are peaceful. The blue tangs semi aggressiveness is controlled with its diet, and for now at least it seems very happy and has plenty of room to roam, swim, and hide, I do not see a reason to move it until it has out grown its current habitat. The eel is not aggressive at all, I would like to know what in this tank you are considering too aggressive because I would like it to be a very active, diverse reef tank. The clowns did come with the tank by the way and any suggestions on what you think I should move/add to make this tank peaceful colorful would be much appreciated

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by Liverocknroll

All of the fish within the tank are considered "Reef safe", atleast with caution, and the inhabitants are peaceful. The blue tangs semi aggressiveness is controlled with its diet, and for now at least it seems very happy and has plenty of room to roam, swim, and hide, I do not see a reason to move it until it has out grown its current habitat. The eel is not aggressive at all, I would like to know what in this tank you are considering too aggressive because I would like it to be a very active, diverse reef tank. The clowns did come with the tank by the way and any suggestions on what you think I should move/add to make this tank peaceful colorful would be much appreciated

Snowflake Eels eat fish, or at least those that it can fit in its mouth. That is an aggressive fish. Hepatus tangs, as I mentioned, need an 8 foot 240 gallon tank. If you remove those two, I will be happy to analyze for compatibility. Failing that course of action, I am sure you can get suggestions in our Aggressive Fish Forum which is found here.

[Deberber]

Originally Posted by snorvich

no problems; you have space for another small compatible fish

Thank you so much. Neon Goby?

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by Deberber

Thank you so much. Neon Goby?

A neon goby would be fine, but remember that the life span of this fish is relatively short.

[Deberber]

Ohh I was unaware, thanks for letting me know.

[Jwey]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jwey
Hello Steve,
I have a 100 Gal tank 72" long with 30 Gal Sump and a 20 Gal FRAG Tank
Water flow is 28 turns with wavemakers.

The plan is to be more Coral based.


Current fish:
2-Ocellaris Clownfish
Diamond Watchman Goby
Six Line Wrasse - Move to FRAG Tank? yes

To be purchased:

TANG's: pick one
Chevron
Kole
Bristletooth Tomini


1 Dwarf Angel: Choices are-not reef safe
Bi Color
Flame
Coral Beauty

Wrasse:
McCoskers
Carpenters

Gobies: pick one
Orange Stripe Pawn
Orange Spotted
Sleeper Blue Dot

Others:
Blue Spot Jawfish requires cooler temperature for long term success
One Spot Foxface not with a tang and dwarf angel; if there is insufficient algae they will not be reef safe


Thanks for your time Steve.





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Can I put a Blue and Yellow Tang together if I put them in at the same time?

Can I also add another Goby with the one I have currently?
Thanks

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by Jwey

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jwey
Hello Steve,
I have a 100 Gal tank 72" long with 30 Gal Sump and a 20 Gal FRAG Tank
Water flow is 28 turns with wavemakers.

The plan is to be more Coral based.


Current fish:
2-Ocellaris Clownfish
Diamond Watchman Goby
Six Line Wrasse - Move to FRAG Tank? yes

To be purchased:

TANG's: pick one
Chevron
Kole
Bristletooth Tomini


1 Dwarf Angel: Choices are-not reef safe
Bi Color
Flame
Coral Beauty

Wrasse:
McCoskers
Carpenters

Gobies: pick one
Orange Stripe Pawn
Orange Spotted
Sleeper Blue Dot

Others:
Blue Spot Jawfish requires cooler temperature for long term success
One Spot Foxface not with a tang and dwarf angel; if there is insufficient algae they will not be reef safe


Thanks for your time Steve.





__________________
Warmest regards and best wishes,

~Steve~

Doing something the same way and expecting different results is irrational.




Can I put a Blue and Yellow Tang together if I put them in at the same time?

No, not really. There is insufficient grazing for two tangs

Can I also add another Goby with the one I have currently?
Thanks

there are various types of gobies. I would not put another commensal goby in this sized tank

[E46Twist]

Hey all, I am trying to decide what my stock is going to be. Tank dimensions are 8x2x1. I don't plan on keeping much in the way or coral just ZOA's and probably GSP. So far I have a false perc(will be two one came DOA,) Eibli angle, and lawnmower blenny(headbutting algea like a champ.) I do not plan on too many fish as I want to keep a low bioload and get the tank to where LR and fuge is all it needs. Really the only two fish I have in my head are a fox face and either powder blue/naso tang. I would only keep one bigger fish and it seems the tangs may grow to big. So what are recommendations on good fish for my set up? Also I have a CUC so no snail/shrimp eaters.

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by E46Twist

Hey all, I am trying to decide what my stock is going to be. Tank dimensions are 8x2x1. I don't plan on keeping much in the way or coral just ZOA's and probably GSP. So far I have a false perc(will be two one came DOA,) Eibli angle, and lawnmower blenny(headbutting algea like a champ.) I do not plan on too many fish as I want to keep a low bioload and get the tank to where LR and fuge is all it needs. Really the only two fish I have in my head are a fox face and either powder blue/naso tang. I would only keep one bigger fish and it seems the tangs may grow to big. So what are recommendations on good fish for my set up? Also I have a CUC so no snail/shrimp eaters.

This thread is different than most on Reef Central in that it is answered only by Reef Central Staff, in this case, me. I am always happy to analyze a stocking list as long as tank size, stocking plan, and maturity is provided, but as those who follow this thread know, I do not provide recommendations for a variety of reasons. The tank size you provided is very unusual; are you sure that it is correctd?

[droog]

Steve,

Thanks for the detailed response, much appreciated!

DT: 129g + 16g sump = 135g System Volume
Dimensions: 51"x28" (129cm x 70cm)
~120lb live rock (all supplied live, some growth and coralline on there)
Shallow aragonite substrate (2mm+ sized grains white color)
Skimmer is a Red Sea Max C-1800 (tank is Red Sea Max 500)


1] To keep a mixed reed, SPS dominated reef
2] I would like one medium sized school of small fish In this sized tank there is no fish that will school or even shoal. Anthias will aggregate and have social interaction but they must be fed multiple times per day which has its own issues

Oh... I see. That is a little sad. Think I might struggle to keep Anthias, so it looks like I need to shelve this plan. (Back to school for me.. haha).

Would a group of Damsels like the yellow tailed blue damsel interact in a tank this size? i guess that might be an option for me and easier to keep?

3] A pair of clowns, preferably tank bred and mated pair, with a host coal The good news is that getting a pair of clownfish is pretty easy. Just start out with two juveniles of the same species. The bad news is that if they associate with a coral, they may damage it. And the worse news is that you cannot choose what they will want to associate with.

I see. Thanks

4] As peaceful, docile behaviour as possible

The only "must have" is a pair of Ocellaris Clowns (my daughters would be devastated if memo doesn't come to live on the reef!) I understand that, and as I mentioned above you will have to understand the consequences.

After that I'm considering a school of like fish (hopefully 10 like fish) however many chromis you add will slowly wither down to one or at most two.
Sunshine/Olive Chromis
Royal Gramma or Brazilian Grammar
Longfin Cardinalfish will not school; will initially aggregate, then pair off; also note that cardinals are primarily nocturnal and don't do a lot during the day

I see. Don't want to torture the poor fish! Wow... you have saved me a ton of heartache here already. Thanks so much.


1x Dwarf angel (Flame or Potters) not LPS safe
1x Tang (Powder Blue or Chevron) chevron is easier

OK, one Chevron tang. Finally something that should work!

Read lots of people love their Gobies esp. Diamond Goby. That would work for me. Will the diamond goby live with a shrimp and if so which shrimp would I need to get? Mixed reviews on commensal shrimp + gobies as they tend to be messy with sand; the shrimp is alpheus randal

Got it, thanks Steve!

-Droog

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by droog

Steve,

Thanks for the detailed response, much appreciated!

DT: 129g + 16g sump = 135g System Volume
Dimensions: 51"x28" (129cm x 70cm)
~120lb live rock (all supplied live, some growth and coralline on there)
Shallow aragonite substrate (2mm+ sized grains white color)
Skimmer is a Red Sea Max C-1800 (tank is Red Sea Max 500)


1] To keep a mixed reed, SPS dominated reef
2] I would like one medium sized school of small fish In this sized tank there is no fish that will school or even shoal. Anthias will aggregate and have social interaction but they must be fed multiple times per day which has its own issues

Oh... I see. That is a little sad. Think I might struggle to keep Anthias, so it looks like I need to shelve this plan. (Back to school for me.. haha).

Would a group of Damsels like the yellow tailed blue damsel interact in a tank this size? i guess that might be an option for me and easier to keep?


3] A pair of clowns, preferably tank bred and mated pair, with a host coal The good news is that getting a pair of clownfish is pretty easy. Just start out with two juveniles of the same species. The bad news is that if they associate with a coral, they may damage it. And the worse news is that you cannot choose what they will want to associate with.

I see. Thanks

4] As peaceful, docile behaviour as possible

The only "must have" is a pair of Ocellaris Clowns (my daughters would be devastated if memo doesn't come to live on the reef!) I understand that, and as I mentioned above you will have to understand the consequences.

After that I'm considering a school of like fish (hopefully 10 like fish) however many chromis you add will slowly wither down to one or at most two.
Sunshine/Olive Chromis
Royal Gramma or Brazilian Grammar
Longfin Cardinalfish will not school; will initially aggregate, then pair off; also note that cardinals are primarily nocturnal and don't do a lot during the day

I see. Don't want to torture the poor fish! Wow... you have saved me a ton of heartache here already. Thanks so much.


1x Dwarf angel (Flame or Potters) not LPS safe
1x Tang (Powder Blue or Chevron) chevron is easier

OK, one Chevron tank. Finally something that should work!

Read lots of people love their Gobies esp. Diamond Goby. That would work for me. Will the diamond goby live with a shrimp and if so which shrimp would I need to get? Mixed reviews on commensal shrimp + gobies as they tend to be messy with sand; the shrimp is alpheus randal

Got it, thanks Steve!

-Droog

Please do not use color or change the color of my responses as I am color blind and especially cannot differentiate red. Bold works well, however. Damsels are pretty aggressive and would not interact with each other in a shoaling manner but they would preclude many other fish going forward.

[droog]

Originally Posted by snorvich

Please do not use color or change the color of my responses as I am color blind and especially cannot differentiate red. Bold works well, however. Damsels are pretty aggressive and would not interact with each other in a shoaling manner but they would preclude many other fish going forward.

Steve,

Would a group of Blue Asessors or Rayal Gramma (Fairy Basslet's) work instead of the damsels in this case?

Not a huge fan of the damsels anyway as they are a little agressive. I have a couple of yellow tail damsels in a 5g nano tank with a coral banded shrimp though, and they have learned to get along well over the past 6 months or so.

I was struggling with the interface... trying to make it easier since I see you respond to so many people. Sorry for the confusion!

-Droog

[E46Twist]

Originally Posted by snorvich

This thread is different than most on Reef Central in that it is answered only by Reef Central Staff, in this case, me. I am always happy to analyze a stocking list as long as tank size, stocking plan, and maturity is provided, but as those who follow this thread know, I do not provide recommendations for a variety of reasons. The tank size you provided is very unusual; are you sure that it is correctd?

Yep! Custom build 8x2x1!

[dukduk]

will my peppermint shrimp attack/kill a sea hare?

2 month old 56 gal, live rock, GFO, carbon, phosguard, bh90 HOB, BB

2 ocelarus, 3 peppermint shrimp, 2 sexy shrimp, 1 green anemone, 1 emerald crab, 2 trochus, 3 margaritas

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by droog

Steve,

Would a group of Blue Asessors or Rayal Gramma (Fairy Basslet's) work instead of the damsels in this case?

Not a huge fan of the damsels anyway as they are a little agressive. I have a couple of yellow tail damsels in a 5g nano tank with a coral banded shrimp though, and they have learned to get along well over the past 6 months or so.

I was struggling with the interface... trying to make it easier since I see you respond to so many people. Sorry for the confusion!

-Droog

You seem to be looking for fish that will, as a group, play together. In the size of tank you have, that is simply not going to happen. Marine fish do not like each other because of a need for territorial imperative. Anthias, in a large tank, will have a social structure, but they need flow and a large space. Basslets or Assessors will not play together.

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by E46Twist

Yep! Custom build 8x2x1!

Not ideal for tangs. Small fish will do fine.

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by dukduk

will my peppermint shrimp attack/kill a sea hare?

2 month old 56 gal, live rock, GFO, carbon, phosguard, bh90 HOB, BB

2 ocelarus, 3 peppermint shrimp, 2 sexy shrimp, 1 green anemone, 1 emerald crab, 2 trochus, 3 margaritas

This thread is only about marine fish compatibility. Start a thread in the Forum Other Invertebrates

[RedStangGA]

Hello, trying to get a handle on stocking a 60 cube. 24x24x24. 20-gal sump and refugium. Planning on 4-inch sand bed to accommodate the jaw fish.

2, and 2 more if possible, pearly jaw fish. I've read conflicting info on pearly's and their willingness to live peacefully together. If they're just going to kill each other I'll stick to 1 or 2.

Christmas Wrasse
or
Adorned Wrasse

Yellow Wrasse

Yellow Watchman Goby

Midas Blenny
or
Tailspot Blenny

Is there room for a peaceful Fairy Wrasse?

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by RedStangGA

Hello, trying to get a handle on stocking a 60 cube. 24x24x24. 20-gal sump and refugium. Planning on 4-inch sand bed to accommodate the jaw fish. best to increase it a bit to 5 inches; also include empty shells and rock rubble for the jawfish to use for structural integrity

2, and 2 more if possible, pearly jaw fish. I've read conflicting info on pearly's and their willingness to live peacefully together. If they're just going to kill each other I'll stick to 1 or 2. it is somewhat of a territorial issue but remember jawfish are prolific jumpers so your tank must be covered with mesh (not egg crate)

Christmas Wrasse
or
Adorned Wrasse preferred

Yellow Wrasse

Yellow Watchman Goby not with jawfish

Midas Blenny
or
Tailspot Blenny p[referred

Is there room for a peaceful Fairy Wrasse?

peaceful yes, but which species are you considering?

[aandfsoccr04]

220g (72" x 30" deep x 24" tall) tank with 70 gallon sump

5 Blue/Green Reef Chromis (Chromis viridis)
3 Firefish (Nemateleotris magnifica)
3 Carberryi Anthias (Nemanthias carberryi)
2 Percula Clownfish (Amphiprion percula)
1 Copperband Butterflyfish (Chelmon rostratus)
1 Potter's Angelfish (Centropyge potteri)
1 Flame Angelfish (Centropyge loricula)
1 Lineatus Fairy Wrasse (Cirrhilabrus lineatus)
1 Golden Rhomboidalis Wrasse (Cirrhilabrus rhomboidalis)
1 Eightline Flasher Wrasse (Paracheilinus octotaenia)
1 Chevron Tang (Ctenochaetus hawaiiensis)
1 Powder Brown Tang (Acanthurus japonicus)
1 Purple Tang (Zebrasoma xanthurum)
1 Blue Caribbean Tang (Acanthurus coeruleus)
1 Yellow Tang - Hawaii (Zebrasoma flavescens)
1 Achilles Tang (Acanthurus achilles)

I'll probably add some more random wrasses in there when ones pop up that I like.

Already have:
1 McCosker's Flasher Wrasse (Paracheilinus mccoskeri)
1 Splendid pintail wrasse (Cirrhilabrus cf. lanceolatus)
1 Earl’s Fairy Wrasse (Cirrhilabrus earlei)
1 Blue Star Leopard Wrasse (Macropharyngodon bipartitus)
1 Vrolik's Wrasse (Halichoeres chrysotaenia)
1 Cleaner Common Wrasse (Labroides dimidiatus)
1 Yellow Prawn Goby (Cryptocentrus cinctus)
1 Matted Filefish (Acreichthys tomentosus)

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by aandfsoccr04

220g (72" x 30" deep x 24" tall) tank with 70 gallon sump

5 Blue/Green Reef Chromis (Chromis viridis) chromis in the vast majority of tanks widdle down until there is only one left
3 Firefish (Nemateleotris magnifica) generally, in the long run only one firefish will survive unless two happen to be a bonded pair
3 Carberryi Anthias (Nemanthias carberryi)
2 Percula Clownfish (Amphiprion percula)
1 Copperband Butterflyfish (Chelmon rostratus) australian is best choice but not reef safe
1 Potter's Angelfish (Centropyge potteri)
1 Flame Angelfish (Centropyge loricula)
1 Lineatus Fairy Wrasse (Cirrhilabrus lineatus)
1 Golden Rhomboidalis Wrasse (Cirrhilabrus rhomboidalis)
1 Eightline Flasher Wrasse (Paracheilinus octotaenia) this flasher wrasse is aggressive and with C. earlei, I would not take the risk
1 Chevron Tang (Ctenochaetus hawaiiensis) I definitely would not do this number of tangs in a six foot tank
1 Powder Brown Tang (Acanthurus japonicus)
1 Purple Tang (Zebrasoma xanthurum)
1 Blue Caribbean Tang (Acanthurus coeruleus)
1 Yellow Tang - Hawaii (Zebrasoma flavescens)
1 Achilles Tang (Acanthurus achilles)

I'll probably add some more random wrasses in there when ones pop up that I like.

Already have:
1 McCosker's Flasher Wrasse (Paracheilinus mccoskeri)
1 Splendid pintail wrasse (Cirrhilabrus cf. lanceolatus) aggressive once established
1 Earl’s Fairy Wrasse (Cirrhilabrus earlei)
1 Blue Star Leopard Wrasse (Macropharyngodon bipartitus)
1 Vrolik's Wrasse (Halichoeres chrysotaenia)
1 Cleaner Common Wrasse (Labroides dimidiatus)
1 Yellow Prawn Goby (Cryptocentrus cinctus)
1 Matted Filefish (Acreichthys tomentosus)

[RedStangGA]

Originally Posted by snorvich

peaceful yes, but which species are you considering?

First, thank you for the reply. I will bump it up to 5" Put's corals an inch closer to the light right lol!

Second, should I avoid goby's altogether with the jaw fish? That's fine if so.

Third, Lubbock's, Exquisite, or Hooded. And if one of those don't fit the bill I'll consider others as well.

Thanks!

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by RedStangGA

First, thank you for the reply. I will bump it up to 5" Put's corals an inch closer to the light right lol!

Second, should I avoid goby's altogether with the jaw fish? That's fine if so. avoid sand dwelling gobies as they can be aggressive towards jawfish

Third, Lubbock's, Exquisite, or Hooded. And if one of those don't fit the bill I'll consider others as well. all are behaviorally similar and should be fine

Thanks!

[YME]

I have a 46 gallon bow front tank. I will have 60 lbs of live rock and 1-2 inch deep sand bed. No sump and no refugium. My intended fish are:

1 Coral Beauty Angelfish (Centropyge bispinosa)
1 Ocellaris Clownfish (Amphiprion ocellaris)
1 Black & White Ocellaris Clownfish - Tank-Bred (Amphiprion ocellaris var.)
2 Yellow Watchman Gobies (Cryptocentrus cinctus)

Also some snails and maybe a fire shrimp. I think that I may be pushing it with the coral beauty.

Thank for your help.

[Travish881]

36 gallon bow 2inch sand bed 45lbs LR no sump as of yet but a 10 gallon will be added soon. Not stock yet but wanted to get your opinion in my plan.
2 tank bread ocellaris
1 orange stripe prawn goby
Really want a flame angel but don't think tank size will allow
And was hoping to get a leopard Toby puffer?
Will only be keeping a few corals mainly soft. Thanks