PLEASE check out your intended fish purchases here first!

[Scrodes]

Originally Posted by snorvich

I am always happy to reanalyze as long as you provide total stocking plan and tank size

Perfect, I knew I had seen that chart kicking around here before. So no Naso - it's settled.

I did some research on the Copper Banded Angel last night and came to that conclusion, plus they're difficult to feed which is exactly what I don't need.

Thanks Snorvich.

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by justa210

210G:

yellow tang
naso tang
blue hippo tang
powder blue tang
(2) clowns
mandarin

need suggestions to complete this stock list with some active swimmers

You already have some very active swimmers in those tangs and your tank is not really long enough for the P. hepatus or any species of Naso tank. While I do not provide recommendations for a variety of reasons I will be happy to reanalyze any stocking list as long as the complete list and tank size is provided.

[formsix]

I found this thread after I posted my own (apologies for anyone reading this twice), but would love some feedback from a mod about my tank stocking plans.

Tank is most likely going to be a 36x12x12 (~27 gallon) tank, though possibly a 48x12x12 (~33 gallon), as we like the look of long and shallow. We're also leaning towards having a sump setup to increase the total volume of water and for all of the other benefits we've read about.

So... here are the fish we're considering. They wouldn't be added all at once, and obviously not until the tank is fully cycled, but I'd like to have a general game plan before we start buying equipment and everything. I only want to get captive bred fish so actual stocking might depend on availability, but I can be patient and flexible.

2 ocellaris clownfish
1 royal dottyback OR 1 royal gramma
1 canary blenny
1 tiger goby + shrimp
1 assesor

Do I have to rule out the dottyback for being too aggressive (or maybe just add it last)? And is 6 fish a few fish too many for the setup we're thinking about? Would the long and shallow tank be a good choice for most of these fish, or would some (like the clownfish?) prefer a higher tank? It's my understanding that the longer swimming space is generally better, but not sure if that's the case for the specific fish we're thinking about.

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by Scrodes

Perfect, I knew I had seen that chart kicking around here before. So no Naso - it's settled.

I did some research on the Copper Banded Angel last night and came to that conclusion, plus they're difficult to feed which is exactly what I don't need.

Thanks Snorvich.

check back when you are ready. About half of the non-australian sourced Copper banded butterflies do not eat prepared food.

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by formsix

I found this thread after I posted my own (apologies for anyone reading this twice), but would love some feedback from a mod about my tank stocking plans.

Tank is most likely going to be a 36x12x12 (~27 gallon) tank, though possibly a 48x12x12 (~33 gallon), as we like the look of long and shallow. We're also leaning towards having a sump setup to increase the total volume of water and for all of the other benefits we've read about.

So... here are the fish we're considering. They wouldn't be added all at once, and obviously not until the tank is fully cycled, but I'd like to have a general game plan before we start buying equipment and everything. I only want to get captive bred fish so actual stocking might depend on availability, but I can be patient and flexible.

2 ocellaris clownfish
1 royal dottyback OR 1 royal gramma the dottyback, while beautiful is really aggressive so I would opt for the royal gramma or at least go with P. fridmani which is less aggressive
1 canary blenny
1 tiger goby + shrimp
1 assesor

except as noted, should be fine

Do I have to rule out the dottyback for being too aggressive (or maybe just add it last)? And is 6 fish a few fish too many for the setup we're thinking about? Would the long and shallow tank be a good choice for most of these fish, or would some (like the clownfish?) prefer a higher tank?

a pair of clownfish (depending on species) will want to control about 25 gallons of tank space. Long and shallow would be fine for all fishes in the plan.

It's my understanding that the longer swimming space is generally better, but not sure if that's the case for the specific fish we're thinking about.

long is essential for tangs, and to some degree for anthias if more than one is desired

[justa210]

Originally Posted by snorvich

You already have some very active swimmers in those tangs and your tank is not really long enough for the P. hepatus or any species of Naso tank. While I do not provide recommendations for a variety of reasons I will be happy to reanalyze any stocking list as long as the complete list and tank size is provided.

Snorvich,

The Yellow tang and Naso are the only ones I have so far off my list. That is just a list I have as a 'wish list' for now. Please let me know what recommendations you have.

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by justa210

Snorvich,

The Yellow tang and Naso are the only ones I have so far off my list. That is just a list I have as a 'wish list' for now. Please let me know what recommendations you have.

As those who follow this thread know, I do not provide recommendations for a variety of reasons. One reason is I want you and all aquarists to develop some research skills in figuring out the planned population of their tank. Admittedly this can be difficult with fish behaviors not obvious until one keeps them, which is why I diligently answer this thread.

[caoder]

Hello All, I am cycling my 36G, 36x12x16, I have 40 lbs of Live Rock. It is skimmerless, with a 1g HOB Fuge with chaeto. It is about 3 weeks old now. Just stocked a small Mexican Turbo and a Nerite snail. Got a small pistol shrimp as a hitchhiker.

Hopeful eventual stock will be a lot of LPS and Zoas,

1 Goby (undecided)
1 Flame Angel
1 Flame Hawkfish
2 Ocellaris Clowns

I look forward to any criticism.

Thanks in advance!

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by caoder

Hello All, I am cycling my 36G, 36x12x16, I have 40 lbs of Live Rock. It is skimmerless, with a 1g HOB Fuge with chaeto. It is about 3 weeks old now. Just stocked a small Mexican Turbo and a Nerite snail. Got a small pistol shrimp as a hitchhiker.

Hopeful eventual stock will be a lot of LPS and Zoas,

1 Goby (undecided)
1 Flame Angel well a dwarf angel is not really reef safe and in any case needs a larger tank since it grazes on algae contantly
1 Flame Hawkfish no shrimp or small fish safe
2 Ocellaris Clowns

I look forward to any criticism.

Thanks in advance!

[ravenzme]

125 Gallon tank 72x18x24 deep

To begin with:

2 Green Chromis
1 Ignitus Anthias
1 Diamond Watchman Goby
2 bonded Ocellaris
1 Yellow Tang

Tank has been cycling about 2 months now, want to start with putting the Chromis in (after QT). Slowly adding in the list above in the order listed.

After a year, would like to add a Green Mandarin. I have a 12 gallon refugium with Chaeto, looking to plumb in another 20 gallon tank for additional DSB and refugium space.

Does this stocking plan appear to be on the right path?

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by ravenzme

125 Gallon tank 72x18x24 deep

To begin with:

2 Green Chromis will likely become on as the dominant one will kill the less aggressive one over time
1 Ignitus Anthias
1 Diamond Watchman Goby
2 bonded Ocellaris
1 Yellow Tang once established, this will greatly limit what can be added to your tank; so if you are fixed on this fish, be sure it is the last fish added

Tank has been cycling about 2 months now, want to start with putting the Chromis in (after QT). Slowly adding in the list above in the order listed.

After a year, would like to add a Green Mandarin. I have a 12 gallon refugium with Chaeto, looking to plumb in another 20 gallon tank for additional DSB and refugium space.

Does this stocking plan appear to be on the right path?

Fine with annotations above

[ravenzme]

Thank you Steve. Will be patient with adding the Yellow Tang until sure I have everything else in. If the Tang is established and I want to add a fish, would putting the Tang into a seperate QT tank for awhile and reintroducing him to the tank with the new fish lessen the risk?

I would hate to be "stuck", but my kids have their hearts set on a Tang.

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by ravenzme

Thank you Steve. Will be patient with adding the Yellow Tang until sure I have everything else in. If the Tang is established and I want to add a fish, would putting the Tang into a seperate QT tank for awhile and reintroducing him to the tank with the new fish lessen the risk?

It would and rearranging the rock would help

I would hate to be "stuck", but my kids have their hearts set on a Tang.

I understand.

[CamDAX]

I went to a LFS and talked to the owner about stocking my new 55 setup. I plan on it being a reef tank.

He said I could have the following
1 Purple Dottyback
4 Ocellaris Clowns
2 Tangs (Blue and yellow)
1 Emperor Angel

I already have the dottyback in my DT. I purchased him a little over a month ago. I know most people never have more than 2 clowns but I read that you can have more if you get them all together from the same hatch as juveniles, any fish other than the in-charge pair will stay as juveniles until one of the in charge pair dies. The guy at the store try's to get a big batch of clowns from the same hatch so people can have more than 2 in their tank. He has been around for 23 years so I am guessing he knows what hes talking about.

I am hoping to get a tang next.

Will this plan work?

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by CamDAX

I went to a LFS and talked to the owner about stocking my new 55 setup. I plan on it being a reef tank.

He said I could have the following
1 Purple Dottyback bad choice, very aggressive
4 Ocellaris Clowns two will be killed as they mature
2 Tangs (Blue and yellow) combining 2 zebrasoma in this sized tank will be World War III
1 Emperor Angel Large angels really need a minimum of a six foot 180 gallon tank

If the LFS asuggest the stocking list above, I would quickly change LFS. Either he does not know, or he knows and does not care.

I already have the dottyback in my DT. I purchased him a little over a month ago. I know most people never have more than 2 clowns but I read that you can have more if you get them all together from the same hatch as juveniles, any fish other than the in-charge pair will stay as juveniles until one of the in charge pair dies. The guy at the store try's to get a big batch of clowns from the same hatch so people can have more than 2 in their tank. He has been around for 23 years so I am guessing he knows what hes talking about. Not at all. My guess is that he has been around that long because he oversells his customers. He gave very bad advice.

I am hoping to get a tang next.

Will this plan work? No.

[CamDAX]

So what would work with the purple dottyback? Can I at lest have a blue tang?

[CamDAX]

How does this guy keep 27 clowns?
http://reefcentral.com/forums/showth...readid=1259398

[gbdrywall]

ok,i'm setting up a 120 gallon with a 50 gallon sump.i have 4 fish i really really want-

Volitan Lionfish
Snowflake Eel
Midnight Arothron Puffer
Yellow Angler

and if allowed maybe a trigger or tang or foxface.
so do you think these four will coincide with each other? will i be able to add one of the optional? thanks

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by CamDAX

So what would work with the purple dottyback? Can I at lest have a blue tang?

Reef Central's recommendation for this fish is found: here.

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by CamDAX

How does this guy keep 27 clowns?

You are most welcome to take the advice of your LFS or any other thread on Reef Central. I will not be offended in the slightest; on the other hand I don't really wish to try to explain why what other folks do or recommend is not best practice. Sexually undifferentiated clownfish can be kept together (20, 50, 100) but in your tank, they will sexually differentiate and kill two.

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by gbdrywall

ok,i'm setting up a 120 gallon with a 50 gallon sump.i have 4 fish i really really want-

Volitan Lionfish
Snowflake Eel
Midnight Arothron Puffer
Yellow Angler

and if allowed maybe a trigger or tang or foxface.
so do you think these four will coincide with each other? will i be able to add one of the optional? thanks

sorry I do not provide analysis on aggressive fish tanks. We do have a forum for Fish only and aggressive fish. That can be found here.

[Plainswalker]

Just want to run this by you as you gave really good advice for my current tank. Upgrading to a 90g 48x18x24.

Current fish:
2x ocellaris
yellow watchman
tailspot blenny
cleaner shrimp

Want to add:
tomini or kole tang
mimic tang
solon fairy wrasse
yellow coris wrasse
bartlett's anthias
3 spotted cardinals
yellowhead jawfish
cleaner shrimp (to make it a pair)

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by Plainswalker

Just want to run this by you as you gave really good advice for my current tank. Upgrading to a 90g 48x18x24.

Current fish:
2x ocellaris
yellow watchman
tailspot blenny
cleaner shrimp

Want to add:
tomini or kole tang I like either, but two push.es the available algae for grazing a bit
mimic tang one tang ideally but any of the three. If you must have two be sure to introduce them concurrently
solon fairy wrasse tends to lose coloration absent a female over time and is on the aggressive side
yellow coris wrasse
bartlett's anthias
3 spotted cardinals
yellowhead jawfish
cleaner shrimp (to make it a pair)

except as noted, fine

[mx51]

I have a 75 gallon reef ready tank 29 gallon sump with a fuge here is my intended stock list
Cleaner shrimp
Fire shrimp
Green mandarin
Pink spotted watchman goby
Ocellaris clownfish x2
Fire fish
Sailfin/algae Blenny
Blue velvet damselfish
Purple dottyback
Black axil chromis
Yellowstriped cardinafish
We plan on having soft coral and lps thank you for any advise guys

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by mx51

I have a 75 gallon reef ready tank 29 gallon sump with a fuge here is my intended stock list
Cleaner shrimp
Fire shrimp
Green mandarin after 9 months
Pink spotted watchman goby
Ocellaris clownfish x2
Fire fish
Sailfin/algae Blenny
Blue velvet damselfish
Purple dottyback aggressive, I would recommend against especially with firefish
Black axil chromis
Yellowstriped cardinafish
We plan on having soft coral and lps thank you for any advise guys

except as noted, should be fine