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Unread 02/21/2014, 09:13 AM   #9326
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A local place has captive raised orchid dottybacks (Pseudochromis fridmani). Will this fish likely harrass my firefish as they have similair body shapes? Thanks again.
Pseudochromis, even if tank bred, are genetically the same. Your firefish is very shy and the results will not be what you are hoping for.


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Unread 02/21/2014, 10:09 AM   #9327
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coral question

Im new to Saltwater. I recently added a Zoa and the first 2 days it looked great. Now half of it is closed up and will not open. I have a Biocube 29 with stock lighting. I have 2 clowns, a yellow clown golby, 22 lbs of rock. Can anybody help me out with this issue. Thanks!!!


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OK Im gonna try to do this the right way this time...

46g bowfront, 70lbs of rock(50new/20 live), 2-3" sand bed, HOB Filter/Skimmer/fuge with some cheato and feather culerpa in it.
Inverts are rose Emerald crab, 2x peppermint, array of snails.
Coral: ZOa/Palys/Shrooms and 2 tiny acans right now.
Light are 4x 36" T5HO right now but will be going LED in the next month or two.
Tank cycled for 3 weeks with just rock and sand and has been another 3-4 weeks since I started adding coral. so it is 2-3 months old now.

No fish as of right now, plan is...

Firefish 1-2
Ocellaris or Mocha Clowns x2
Blenny(green canary, forktail or tailspot) x1

These are the first 4-5 I want to add over the next month or two, I figure start with the firefish since they are the most docile? Is it preferred to have an anenome or other special coral for the clowns to bond with?

Ok let me have it =)



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Unread 02/21/2014, 10:52 AM   #9329
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Hey Snorvich,
I have a 75 gallon (48 x 18 x 21) on its way sometime next week. I was planning on making a sump out of a 30 gallon tank and adding a good amount of live rock and sand. Will be getting a good skimmer.
My intended purchases are going to be:

2 Ocellaris Clownfish
1 Starry Blenny (Salarias ramosus)
1 Sleeper Gold Head Goby (Valenciennea strigata)
1 Engineer Goby (Pholidichthys leucotaenia)
1 Flame Angelfish (Centropyge loricula)
1 Kole Yellow Eye Tang (Ctenochaetus strigosus)
1 Spotband Butterflyfish (Chaetodon punctatofasciatus)
1 Christmas Wrasse (Halichoeres claudia)
1 Hoeven's Wrasse (Halichoeres melanurus)
1 Radiant Wrasse (Halichoeres iridis)

Not sure if this is too many fish, but I would like to get 1 Leopard Wrasse(Macropharyngodon meleagris) eventually, but need to do more research and have more experience. Also, not sure if the Leopard would do well if added after all the fish or would have to be one of the first in the tank.


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Im new to Saltwater. I recently added a Zoa and the first 2 days it looked great. Now half of it is closed up and will not open. I have a Biocube 29 with stock lighting. I have 2 clowns, a yellow clown golby, 22 lbs of rock. Can anybody help me out with this issue. Thanks!!!
This thread is only about Marine Fish Compatibility and is answered only by Reef Central Staff. If you create your own thread in New to the Hobby, you will get lots of help.


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Unread 02/21/2014, 11:37 AM   #9331
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OK Im gonna try to do this the right way this time...

46g bowfront, 70lbs of rock(50new/20 live), 2-3" sand bed, HOB Filter/Skimmer/fuge with some cheato and feather culerpa in it.
Inverts are rose Emerald crab, 2x peppermint, array of snails.
Coral: ZOa/Palys/Shrooms and 2 tiny acans right now.
Light are 4x 36" T5HO right now but will be going LED in the next month or two.
Tank cycled for 3 weeks with just rock and sand and has been another 3-4 weeks since I started adding coral. so it is 2-3 months old now.

No fish as of right now, plan is...

Firefish 1-2 one would be fine, two is not long term stable; introduce early
Ocellaris or Mocha Clowns x2
Blenny(green canary, forktail or tailspot) x1 any of the three would work, but only one

These are the first 4-5 I want to add over the next month or two, I figure start with the firefish since they are the most docile? Is it preferred to have an anenome or other special coral for the clowns to bond with? The clowns may or may not bond (associate) with the anemone; if you do, check my blog for anemones that would work

Ok let me have it =) I am always gentle . . ..




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Unread 02/21/2014, 11:44 AM   #9332
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Hey Snorvich,
I have a 75 gallon (48 x 18 x 21) on its way sometime next week. I was planning on making a sump out of a 30 gallon tank and adding a good amount of live rock and sand. Will be getting a good skimmer.
My intended purchases are going to be:

2 Ocellaris Clownfish
1 Starry Blenny (Salarias ramosus)
1 Sleeper Gold Head Goby (Valenciennea strigata) will create sand storms and then starve
1 Engineer Goby (Pholidichthys leucotaenia) you will not be happy as this fish will rearrange your tank
1 Flame Angelfish (Centropyge loricula)
1 Kole Yellow Eye Tang (Ctenochaetus strigosus)
1 Spotband Butterflyfish (Chaetodon punctatofasciatus) not invert safe
1 Christmas Wrasse (Halichoeres claudia)
1 Hoeven's Wrasse (Halichoeres melanurus)
1 Radiant Wrasse (Halichoeres iridis)

I would be less than sure about 3 Halichoeres wrasses in this sized tank; even one is not invert safe for sure, however.

Not sure if this is too many fish, but I would like to get 1 Leopard Wrasse(Macropharyngodon meleagris) eventually, but need to do more research and have more experience. Also, not sure if the Leopard would do well if added after all the fish or would have to be one of the first in the tank.
I would definitely not introduce a leopard until your tank is mature, and would not do so in conjunction with Halichoeres wrasses


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Unread 02/21/2014, 01:55 PM   #9333
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When you say not invert safe, do you mean shrimp are at risk of being eaten also? Or just corals?

When you say your not sure about the 3 Halichoeres, do you mean their eventually full grown size will be too much for my tank or is it aggression among them?

I don't want to try corals just yet, but I've always liked different kinds of shrimp. If I were to replace the Halichoeres' with fairy or flasher wrasses do you think it would be a better situation for the fish and the tank as a whole?

Would Leopard wrasse be a problem with fairy or flasher wrasses (the generally peaceful kind)?


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Currently cycling a 10gallon Nano.

11 lbs. Fiji Live Rock
1" - 1 1/2" Live sand
HOB Filter
Koralia 425 Powerhead

Considering stocking....

1 Yellow Watchman Goby
1 Pistol Shrimp
1 Emerald Crab
2 Narcissus Snails


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What do you think of this combination of fish in 70 gallon fowlr...

orchid dottyback
mystery wrasse
flame angel
saddle valentini puffer
2 ocellaris clowns


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Unread 02/21/2014, 02:47 PM   #9336
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Is it possible my Kleini Butterlfy is bothering my clam. Is there an issue with Butterflies and clams?


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Unread 02/21/2014, 03:16 PM   #9337
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My 65 gallon (36x20x21) with Eschopps rs-75 sump and Reef Octopus Diablo xs160 skimmer is almost built. Once it's cycled I will keep my current firefish, mated pair of true percs, watchman goby with pistol and two cleaner shrimp.

I'd like to add 1 male McCoskers Wrasse with 1 or 2 females. Will this be too much? Any thoughts on keeping male and female wrasses?


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When you say not invert safe, do you mean shrimp are at risk of being eaten also? Or just corals? they are coral safe but not feather dusters, wild shrimp, tubeworms, and flatworms

When you say your not sure about the 3 Halichoeres, do you mean their eventually full grown size will be too much for my tank or is it aggression among them? since they will compete for the same food source, and your tank is not large, generally fish occupying the same ecological niche can become ornery to similars

I don't want to try corals just yet, but I've always liked different kinds of shrimp. If I were to replace the Halichoeres' with fairy or flasher wrasses do you think it would be a better situation for the fish and the tank as a whole? fairy and flasher wrasses are invert safe

Would Leopard wrasse be a problem with fairy or flasher wrasses (the generally peaceful kind)?
once the tank is mature, should be fine


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Currently cycling a 10gallon Nano.

11 lbs. Fiji Live Rock
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HOB Filter
Koralia 425 Powerhead

Considering stocking....

1 Yellow Watchman Goby
1 Pistol Shrimp
1 Emerald Crab
2 Narcissus Snails
should be fine;


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What do you think of this combination of fish in 70 gallon fowlr...

orchid dottyback
mystery wrasse mystery wrasse and the dottyback are likely to be an issue; mystery wrasses will preclude many other tank mates
flame angel
saddle valentini puffer
2 ocellaris clowns
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Is it possible my Kleini Butterlfy is bothering my clam. Is there an issue with Butterflies and clams?
The Orange Butterflyfish may be kept in a reef aquarium, but will eat leather corals and some of the soft corals. Clams may be a problem with some butterfly fish, but perhaps not the Kleini


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My 65 gallon (36x20x21) with Eschopps rs-75 sump and Reef Octopus Diablo xs160 skimmer is almost built. Once it's cycled I will keep my current firefish, mated pair of true percs, watchman goby with pistol and two cleaner shrimp.

I'd like to add 1 male McCoskers Wrasse with 1 or 2 females. Will this be too much? Any thoughts on keeping male and female wrasses?
should be fine; note that the firefish may be intimidated by the flasher wrasses


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Thanks I had a 6 line that bothered it a few years ago. After the flat worms were gone the 6 line went to another home. Are there better choices for flasher wrasses than the McCoskers or will any flasher bother firefish?


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Thanks I had a 6 line that bothered it a few years ago. After the flat worms were gone the 6 line went to another home. Are there better choices for flasher wrasses than the McCoskers or will any flasher bother firefish?
All flasher wrasses except the Red Sea Eight line (which is more aggressive) exhibit the same behavior. I am not sure that the flashers will bother the firefish, but I have seen it happen because of their activity level.


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55 gallon with 10 gallon refuge holding chaeto and pods.

Current inhabitants

2x Amphiprion ocellaris
1x Sphaeramia nemanoptera
1x Pterapogon kauderni
1x Ecsenius stigmatura
1x Stonogobiops yasha paired with a Alpheus bellulus

I have LPS and SPS corals, and a Tubestrea.

Snails and hermits....I know I need to get the crabs out. But the wifey like them. When one takes out a nassarius snail she'll change her mind.

I have a Cleaner shrimp and sexy shrimp in the DT now.

This is in QT.

1 Nemateleotris helfrichi

Can I add either a Bodianus bimaculatus or Luzonichthys waitei? I got rid of the algae blenny once in QT


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55 gallon with 10 gallon refuge holding chaeto and pods.

Current inhabitants

2x Amphiprion ocellaris
1x Sphaeramia nemanoptera
1x Pterapogon kauderni
1x Ecsenius stigmatura
1x Stonogobiops yasha paired with a Alpheus bellulus

I have LPS and SPS corals, and a Tubestrea.

Snails and hermits....I know I need to get the crabs out. But the wifey like them. When one takes out a nassarius snail she'll change her mind.

I have a Cleaner shrimp and sexy shrimp in the DT now.

This is in QT.

1 Nemateleotris helfrichi

Can I add either a Bodianus bimaculatus or Luzonichthys waitei? I got rid of the algae blenny once in QT
either should work but with Bodianus bimaculatus I would be concerned with the sexy shrimp


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Good evening Steve. It's with a heavy heart I report this.
I tried to PM. Post #76 is the loss list.
http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/sh....php?t=2382656


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Good evening Steve. It's with a heavy heart I report this.
I tried to PM.
http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/sh....php?t=2382656
Because of fish disease consults, I had to stop accepting PM except from mods and friends. I will check the thread.


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OK, Here is a repeat of my current stocking which you have already addressed. "I have a 65 gallon display tank with around 70lbs of live rock.

30 gallon capacity sump with about 20 gallons of actual water. 6 inch deep sand bed in second chamber with around 5 lbs of live rock rubble plus cheato.

CUC consists of 6 blue leg hermits, one nassarius snail, 3 or 4 turbo snails, 3 mexican turbos, a few astreas.

My current coral list contains zoanthids/palythoas, hammer corals, goniaporas, mushrooms, ricordias, green star polyps, pulsing xenias, favia, acan lord, and a pipe organ coral

Current fish are percula clown, one ocellaris clown, one firefish, one midas blenny, one lawnmower blenny, and a Lubbock's fairy wrasse.

Am I at my bioload or is it possible to add any more fish. I really am open to suggestions as to what fish to add if anything. I know that I dont have the space for a tang, do not want damsels or chromis, and think I should stay away from angels because of the corals. I am also assuming that a mandarin is out of the question due to pod production not being enough to sustain it in this size of a set up. Any recomendations?"

I am considering setting up a 10 to 20 gallon tank strictly for pod production to supplement feeding for a mandarin. I am not sure if this would be sufficient though especially due to the fairy wrasse that is a current inhabitant. If it will not sustain the mandarin I will not get one as I definately don't want it to suffer andf slowly starve. Thanks again.



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Good morning Steve.
Tell me about your beloved Possum Wrasses please.

Can one get away with pairs/multiples?
Or, would one of each of the three be alright in a large tank with other non aggressive tankmates?

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