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weatherson · 06/14/2007, 02:08 PM

ebolii, Thank you very much. To get an idea of the electricity consumption, take a look at the following page on my site...

Specs page.

Scroll down to the Power Chart. There have been a few changes since that was published such as running both closed loops with Iwaki 55's and switching out two of the five 250-watt metal halides to 400-watt units. So to answer your question... too much.

For further information on the air injection system and its workings, take a look at the reply to tcmfish about six posts back. There are links there to where it is described further within this thread. If those don't provide enough detailed information, just let me know.

Joseph.

saxsan · 06/14/2007, 04:59 PM

Joseph...by far the cleanest and most impresive tank I have ever seen! You meantioned the Central Valley Heat....Do you mean the Fresno area? A cool 103 today.

george1098 · 06/14/2007, 05:00 PM

Hey Joseph
Your fron pain is starfire correct? do you think that makes a huge difference as far as macro-reef-photography is concerned? I am going to build myself a new tank soon, and I would love to go with starfire, but the cost is discouraging.

weatherson · 06/14/2007, 05:22 PM

saxsan, Thank you very much. I'm showing only 100 for Fresno Air Terminal right now. Where's my sweater?

george1098, Actually, no, my tank's glass is all of the green, non-Starfire type.

I have shot a tank with Starfire and without an exact one-to-one comparison, couldn't see a difference in the photographic results. Although, I do know that looking into a Starfire tank creates an illusion that objects are closer to the glass than they actually are. I would assume this is due to the clarity and an interesting side effect.

Joseph.

weatherson · 06/14/2007, 11:48 PM

While relaxing tonight watching some television, I look up at the tank and notice a "puff" of what I thought was sand being stirred up by one of the fish. I keep looking and there is another puff but this time from another area of the tank. Hmm, I think.

Then another. I get up to look closer and realize that the puffs are being emitted from my clams.

How cool is that? Yep. They are getting groovy in there. I run and get my camera and snap a few shots of the occasion. Here's a shot of one with a good plume going...

And an animated GIF of another...

And finally, a shot of my skimmer's neck full of... well... you know.

This spawning went on for about twenty minutes. Ten of the thirteen clams participated with both larger Tear Drops and the smaller Blue Squamosa sitting this event out. I'd had three clams spawn in my old 65-gallon tank many years ago but this was still extremely exciting... for me and the clams.

Joseph.

drummereef · 06/14/2007, 11:50 PM

Wow, simply amazing shots of the clam spawning. Amazing.

Hop · 06/14/2007, 11:52 PM

Very cool! I guess it really is a protein skimmer

tcmfish · 06/15/2007, 07:17 AM

I have read people post on other threads that the clams spawn like that because they are stressed and research has been done on it supposedly but it would be hard for me to believe they are stressed in your tank.

weatherson · 06/15/2007, 07:28 AM

Thanks everyone. I don't think it was stress induced either. If anything, I'd lean more towards it being related to the lunar solstice. As a side note, my wife had informed me about a week ago that when she was viewing the tank early one morning, she witnessed my oldest Birdsnest coral spawning also. Unfortunately, she rises before me and didn't wake me to get any photos.

I flushed the skimmer out multiple times and changed my filter sock as well but even after 10-hours, the skimmer is still not foaming as usual. I may do a water change today if it doesn't soon. Basically, the tank was fairly cloudy right after this event but is looking clear this morning. We'll see once the lights come up.

Joseph.

Absolute Reef · 06/15/2007, 10:19 PM

Nice puff!

Great pictures.

tfp · 06/16/2007, 11:30 AM

joe, inspiring stuff as usual from you! glad you pointed me to this thread.

whats really amazing is that your reef is absolutely thriving with the presence of aefw that have driven so many reefers out. do you think maybe you've got a different variant or strain of them? your sps don't look stressed at all

.

weatherson · 06/16/2007, 02:29 PM

Absolute Reef, Thank you very much.

tfp, Thanks. The reason the AEFW's seem to stay in check in my tank I would suggest is for a couple of reasons. First, I do weekly baster blasting's on the corals known to have a propensity for AEFW habitation, primarily only a couple. This breaks them free and sends them water bound where several of my fish dine on them with great ferocity. Good fish.

The other possibility would have to do with the fish in my tank. There are several that openly eat the AEFW's and include my Heniochus, the two Blue Devil Damsels and both the Choris and Sixline wrasses. Others contribute too but I think more-so in an eating-frenzy manner.

I do know for sure though that it has nothing to do with acro crabs as there are none remaining in my tank after the Red Bug treatments. I have yet to find a source for these to re-establish their population but am not sure whether these contribute to alleviating AEFW's on their hosted corals or not. I think it would be interesting to find if there is a greater instance for AEFW's in those tanks where the acro crabs have been eliminated. Maybe someone should do a poll?

Joseph.

Sparkss · 06/16/2007, 04:23 PM

Joseph,

There was a poll some time ago about acro crabs and AEFWs, and it came out that there was no correlation between not having acro crabs and haveing AEFWs, IIRC. Several people reported their worst infected colonies had acro crabs living in them, discounting the belief that acro crabs had held the AEFWs in check prior to the red bug treatments. But maybe that has changed ?

weatherson · 06/16/2007, 05:28 PM

That could very well be as there are many less than symbiotic acro crabs out there. A little selfish on their part beings they get life saving protection from the corals.

Joseph.

melev · 06/17/2007, 03:22 PM

Joe, I just wanted to thank you for your latest round of pictures. Stunning, image after image. You continue to be a huge inspiration for me, as well as for others.

jnarowe · 06/17/2007, 03:42 PM

I second that!

weatherson · 06/17/2007, 05:27 PM

You are very welcome and it pleases me greatly to be of service. As I've said before, it's simply my attempt to give back as I have learned much from many others. Thanks for the kind comments.

Joseph.

edwinn · 06/20/2007, 10:52 PM

everything are nic......................e thx 4 sharing

weatherson · 06/21/2007, 12:07 AM

You are welcome and thanks.

Joseph.

EBOLII · 06/24/2007, 07:28 PM

Man I wanna see more

token · 06/28/2007, 04:04 PM

Well, I am very sad; I came to the current date in this absolutely incredible thread. I will liken it to reading an enthralling novel, replete with fascinating characters, intrigue, and, to cap it all off, stunningly illustrated.

I read all 157 pages, including links, and "took" pictures, diagrams and links as I went. The folder containing that wealth of knowledge weighs in at 18.6 MB (excluding the SensaPhone mp3; I trashed that after listening...) and my bookmarks increased by over thirty entries!!

Thank you!

Like others, I am stunned by the quality of your passion for crafting. I am very fortunate to work in a very creative environment. Many of my very close RL friends are decidedly creative; a trainer for the world's largest upscale hair salon chain, a blacksmith, two chefs, an interior designer. When I say this, I speak not only from my heart but with a grounding in practical experience; your skill is absolutely, unequivocally top-notch.

I am humbled by the care you (and your wife) provide to these displaced denizens of the ocean. I realized that I can (and will) do more to care for my own.

... and that is the one thing I learned from this thread that will stay with me, informing a lot of decisions I have yet to make.

So, I will close with a question. Any updated thoughts/research pertaining to the Blue Carpet Anemones? A fellow recipient of TotM (Ding Ding Ding; GRATS!!), Steve Weast, listed one as a resident of his TotM (2002, iirc) and a lot has happened since. I wondered if the two of you have had any discussion about them.

weatherson · 06/29/2007, 01:24 AM

ebolii, Something in particular or is that a statement in general?

token, Thank you very much for the very kind words. It's good to know that others are able to take something away from this lengthy saga.

I've not spoken with Steve W. regarding blue carpets. I had kept a green and white striped carpet years ago for many years until a very unfortunate pump/Kalkwaser mishap. This was in my established, original 65-gallon tank. I truly believe that my blue carpet that perished in the 240 did so based on the fact that the tank wasn't mature long enough to sustain it when I added it. I was a little too anxious and fell victim to having found such a beautiful specimen. This is one of my greatest regrets to do with this current tank. I may consider adding another now that the tank is quite mature but it will take much thought prior to doing so. Most of that thought will pertain to how little room remains in my tank now, the double-edged sword of a mature tank.

Joseph.

EBOLII · 06/29/2007, 03:15 AM

Just a general statement I suppose. Your images are great quality of what I see is a perfect aquarium. So it leaves one wanting more. "Turning out the lights and going to bed now" syndrome I guess

weatherson · 06/30/2007, 01:25 AM

My tank is far from perfect, just as is the case with most other tanks. There are issues I deal with but I try to be very tenacious and keep them to a minimum.

Thanks though and I'm sure I'll have more "eye candy" available in the future.

Joseph.

The R/C Man · 06/30/2007, 06:53 AM

Joseph,

The tank looks fantastic. When I return from my deployment the first thing on my to do list is build the dividing wall for my 375. My goal is to copy your set up. It has given me some great ideas. Since all of my equipment has been built or purchased for the system, the wall and running the electrical will be all its waiting on...

I love your imigaging! What type of camera are you using and what lens?

Thanks!

06/14/2007, 05:00 PM	#928
george1098 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Halifax NS Canada Posts: 1,336	Hey Joseph Your fron pain is starfire correct? do you think that makes a huge difference as far as macro-reef-photography is concerned? I am going to build myself a new tank soon, and I would love to go with starfire, but the cost is discouraging. __________________ I'm not as think as you stupid i am Current Tank Info: None at the moment

06/14/2007, 11:50 PM	#931
drummereef Team RC Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: STL Posts: 14,754	Wow, simply amazing shots of the clam spawning. Amazing. __________________ -Brett 180g Marineland Starfire In-Wall 278 gallon system

06/14/2007, 11:52 PM	#932
Hop Carpe Noctem!!! Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Western Colorado Posts: 8,548	Very cool! I guess it really is a protein skimmer __________________ Hop Current Tank Info: 300-gallon in-wall system (mixed reef)

06/15/2007, 10:19 PM	#935
Absolute Reef Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Somewhere in the ocean. Posts: 215	Nice puff! Great pictures. __________________ Once a reefer, always a reefer. Current Tank Info: 420G in wall, 200G Prop system

06/16/2007, 11:30 AM	#936
tfp Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Folsom, CA Posts: 3,225	joe, inspiring stuff as usual from you! glad you pointed me to this thread. whats really amazing is that your reef is absolutely thriving with the presence of aefw that have driven so many reefers out. do you think maybe you've got a different variant or strain of them? your sps don't look stressed at all . __________________ Go with what works for you. Current Tank Info: Envisions 400g (96x32x30) online January 2012. 4-72" VHOs,7-OceanRevive T247,Aquamaxx Cone 6 Skimmer, Aquamaxx S3 CR,Aquariumplants CO2 regulator, Jebao SOW20's, 80w Emperor UV, tang dominated with anthias and longspine cards

06/14/2007, 02:08 PM	#926
weatherson Premium Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: California Posts: 2,022	ebolii, Thank you very much. To get an idea of the electricity consumption, take a look at the following page on my site... Specs page. Scroll down to the Power Chart. There have been a few changes since that was published such as running both closed loops with Iwaki 55's and switching out two of the five 250-watt metal halides to 400-watt units. So to answer your question... too much. For further information on the air injection system and its workings, take a look at the reply to tcmfish about six posts back. There are links there to where it is described further within this thread. If those don't provide enough detailed information, just let me know. Joseph.

06/14/2007, 04:59 PM	#927
saxsan Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Fresno, CA Posts: 5	Joseph...by far the cleanest and most impresive tank I have ever seen! You meantioned the Central Valley Heat....Do you mean the Fresno area? A cool 103 today.

06/14/2007, 05:22 PM	#929
weatherson Premium Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: California Posts: 2,022	saxsan, Thank you very much. I'm showing only 100 for Fresno Air Terminal right now. Where's my sweater? george1098, Actually, no, my tank's glass is all of the green, non-Starfire type. I have shot a tank with Starfire and without an exact one-to-one comparison, couldn't see a difference in the photographic results. Although, I do know that looking into a Starfire tank creates an illusion that objects are closer to the glass than they actually are. I would assume this is due to the clarity and an interesting side effect. Joseph.

06/14/2007, 11:48 PM	#930
weatherson Premium Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: California Posts: 2,022	While relaxing tonight watching some television, I look up at the tank and notice a "puff" of what I thought was sand being stirred up by one of the fish. I keep looking and there is another puff but this time from another area of the tank. Hmm, I think. Then another. I get up to look closer and realize that the puffs are being emitted from my clams. How cool is that? Yep. They are getting groovy in there. I run and get my camera and snap a few shots of the occasion. Here's a shot of one with a good plume going... And an animated GIF of another... And finally, a shot of my skimmer's neck full of... well... you know. This spawning went on for about twenty minutes. Ten of the thirteen clams participated with both larger Tear Drops and the smaller Blue Squamosa sitting this event out. I'd had three clams spawn in my old 65-gallon tank many years ago but this was still extremely exciting... for me and the clams. Joseph.

06/15/2007, 07:17 AM	#933
tcmfish Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 3,658	I have read people post on other threads that the clams spawn like that because they are stressed and research has been done on it supposedly but it would be hard for me to believe they are stressed in your tank.

06/15/2007, 07:28 AM	#934
weatherson Premium Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: California Posts: 2,022	Thanks everyone. I don't think it was stress induced either. If anything, I'd lean more towards it being related to the lunar solstice. As a side note, my wife had informed me about a week ago that when she was viewing the tank early one morning, she witnessed my oldest Birdsnest coral spawning also. Unfortunately, she rises before me and didn't wake me to get any photos. I flushed the skimmer out multiple times and changed my filter sock as well but even after 10-hours, the skimmer is still not foaming as usual. I may do a water change today if it doesn't soon. Basically, the tank was fairly cloudy right after this event but is looking clear this morning. We'll see once the lights come up. Joseph.

06/16/2007, 02:29 PM	#937
weatherson Premium Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: California Posts: 2,022	Absolute Reef, Thank you very much. tfp, Thanks. The reason the AEFW's seem to stay in check in my tank I would suggest is for a couple of reasons. First, I do weekly baster blasting's on the corals known to have a propensity for AEFW habitation, primarily only a couple. This breaks them free and sends them water bound where several of my fish dine on them with great ferocity. Good fish. The other possibility would have to do with the fish in my tank. There are several that openly eat the AEFW's and include my Heniochus, the two Blue Devil Damsels and both the Choris and Sixline wrasses. Others contribute too but I think more-so in an eating-frenzy manner. I do know for sure though that it has nothing to do with acro crabs as there are none remaining in my tank after the Red Bug treatments. I have yet to find a source for these to re-establish their population but am not sure whether these contribute to alleviating AEFW's on their hosted corals or not. I think it would be interesting to find if there is a greater instance for AEFW's in those tanks where the acro crabs have been eliminated. Maybe someone should do a poll? Joseph.

06/16/2007, 04:23 PM	#938
Sparkss Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Oakley (94561) Posts: 5,030	Joseph, There was a poll some time ago about acro crabs and AEFWs, and it came out that there was no correlation between not having acro crabs and haveing AEFWs, IIRC. Several people reported their worst infected colonies had acro crabs living in them, discounting the belief that acro crabs had held the AEFWs in check prior to the red bug treatments. But maybe that has changed ? __________________ - Tom Current Tank Info: 380 starfire inwall ,two 150g sump/fuge. Volcano Ca RX, ato, 6' Volcano skimmer. LAIIIs w/400w AquaConnect 14K on IC EBallasts

06/16/2007, 05:28 PM	#939
weatherson Premium Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: California Posts: 2,022	That could very well be as there are many less than symbiotic acro crabs out there. A little selfish on their part beings they get life saving protection from the corals. Joseph.

06/17/2007, 03:22 PM	#940
melev Moved On Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Ft Worth, Tx Posts: 43,217	Joe, I just wanted to thank you for your latest round of pictures. Stunning, image after image. You continue to be a huge inspiration for me, as well as for others.

06/17/2007, 03:42 PM	#941
jnarowe Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Poulsbo, WA Posts: 14,710	I second that! __________________ Jonathan--Recovering Tankaholic. Current Tank Info: 70g fresh planted

06/17/2007, 05:27 PM	#942
weatherson Premium Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: California Posts: 2,022	You are very welcome and it pleases me greatly to be of service. As I've said before, it's simply my attempt to give back as I have learned much from many others. Thanks for the kind comments. Joseph.

06/20/2007, 10:52 PM	#943
edwinn Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Chino Hills CALI Posts: 280	everything are nic......................e thx 4 sharing

06/21/2007, 12:07 AM	#944
weatherson Premium Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: California Posts: 2,022	You are welcome and thanks. Joseph.

06/24/2007, 07:28 PM	#945
EBOLII Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Deep within the uncharted Amazon Posts: 400	Man I wanna see more __________________ I am lost in every-way there is.............literally.............just plain LOST

06/28/2007, 04:04 PM	#946
token Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Texas Posts: 614	Well, I am very sad; I came to the current date in this absolutely incredible thread. I will liken it to reading an enthralling novel, replete with fascinating characters, intrigue, and, to cap it all off, stunningly illustrated. I read all 157 pages, including links, and "took" pictures, diagrams and links as I went. The folder containing that wealth of knowledge weighs in at 18.6 MB (excluding the SensaPhone mp3; I trashed that after listening...) and my bookmarks increased by over thirty entries!! Thank you! Like others, I am stunned by the quality of your passion for crafting. I am very fortunate to work in a very creative environment. Many of my very close RL friends are decidedly creative; a trainer for the world's largest upscale hair salon chain, a blacksmith, two chefs, an interior designer. When I say this, I speak not only from my heart but with a grounding in practical experience; your skill is absolutely, unequivocally top-notch. I am humbled by the care you (and your wife) provide to these displaced denizens of the ocean. I realized that I can (and will) do more to care for my own. ... and that is the one thing I learned from this thread that will stay with me, informing a lot of decisions I have yet to make. So, I will close with a question. Any updated thoughts/research pertaining to the Blue Carpet Anemones? A fellow recipient of TotM (Ding Ding Ding; GRATS!!), Steve Weast, listed one as a resident of his TotM (2002, iirc) and a lot has happened since. I wondered if the two of you have had any discussion about them. __________________ •Any intelligent fool can make things bigger, more complex, and more violent. It takes a touch of genius - and a lot of courage - to move in the opposite direction. --Albert Einstein Current Tank Info: 100g and 75g displays, both with 2 x 250w Iwasaki 14k DE, 100g sump, 55g growout, 55g refugium, 20g benthic

06/29/2007, 01:24 AM	#947
weatherson Premium Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: California Posts: 2,022	ebolii, Something in particular or is that a statement in general? token, Thank you very much for the very kind words. It's good to know that others are able to take something away from this lengthy saga. I've not spoken with Steve W. regarding blue carpets. I had kept a green and white striped carpet years ago for many years until a very unfortunate pump/Kalkwaser mishap. This was in my established, original 65-gallon tank. I truly believe that my blue carpet that perished in the 240 did so based on the fact that the tank wasn't mature long enough to sustain it when I added it. I was a little too anxious and fell victim to having found such a beautiful specimen. This is one of my greatest regrets to do with this current tank. I may consider adding another now that the tank is quite mature but it will take much thought prior to doing so. Most of that thought will pertain to how little room remains in my tank now, the double-edged sword of a mature tank. Joseph.

06/29/2007, 03:15 AM	#948
EBOLII Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Deep within the uncharted Amazon Posts: 400	Just a general statement I suppose. Your images are great quality of what I see is a perfect aquarium. So it leaves one wanting more. "Turning out the lights and going to bed now" syndrome I guess __________________ I am lost in every-way there is.............literally.............just plain LOST

06/30/2007, 01:25 AM	#949
weatherson Premium Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: California Posts: 2,022	My tank is far from perfect, just as is the case with most other tanks. There are issues I deal with but I try to be very tenacious and keep them to a minimum. Thanks though and I'm sure I'll have more "eye candy" available in the future. Joseph.

06/30/2007, 06:53 AM	#950
The R/C Man Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Spokane, WA Posts: 668	Joseph, The tank looks fantastic. When I return from my deployment the first thing on my to do list is build the dividing wall for my 375. My goal is to copy your set up. It has given me some great ideas. Since all of my equipment has been built or purchased for the system, the wall and running the electrical will be all its waiting on... I love your imigaging! What type of camera are you using and what lens? Thanks! __________________ Greg Over time science has shown that the simplest answers are usually the correct ones....... Current Tank Info: Took everything down except my 14gallon biocube. However, I do have a 680 gallon wood w/glass viewing window on the drawing board. :-)