Bubble Master Skimmers more info wanted??? - Page 38

Hammercoral · 11/16/2006, 07:58 PM

Its with the one they sent me it wont restart, just makes the pump start shaking, my diy one has been fine for 6 days and its been turned on/off several times as I have been spending much time in the sump lately.

Paulairduck · 11/16/2006, 08:31 PM

I have the same problem with my skimmer, (ATI 200), it need's a blow start and it doesn't skim yet, I now have it a tub of saltwater in the garage, it will not go back in my sump until I see some NOG!

mavgi · 11/16/2006, 08:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Hammercoral
Its with the one they sent me it wont restart, just makes the pump start shaking, my diy one has been fine for 6 days and its been turned on/off several times as I have been spending much time in the sump lately.

there is to way first you can cut from the diameter of the mesh and it will start easy it's will not shake.

second if you want to keep the diameter of the mesh you need to restart the pump of the water and slowly into the water till the pump will flow water with the bubble and then to connect it to the skimmer body (little pain)

mavgi · 11/16/2006, 08:37 PM

mavgi · 11/16/2006, 08:37 PM

my K/b get crazy

mavgi · 11/16/2006, 08:37 PM

i am very sorry

mavgi · 11/16/2006, 08:37 PM

mavgi · 11/16/2006, 08:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Hammercoral
Its with the one they sent me it wont restart, just makes the pump start shaking, my diy one has been fine for 6 days and its been turned on/off several times as I have been spending much time in the sump lately.

there is 2 way first you can cut from the diameter of the mesh and it will start easy it's will not shake.

second if you want to keep the diameter of the mesh you need to restart the pump of the water and slowly into the water till the pump will flow water with the bubble and then to connect it to the skimmer body (little pain)

the problem with it's because the mesh diameter it's not correct and when you trim it the pump will run easy and start quick

mavgi · 11/16/2006, 08:37 PM

sorry the K/B

mavgi · 11/16/2006, 08:37 PM

again

Roland Jacques · 11/16/2006, 08:37 PM

I tried a restriction on a GG skimmer pump and had the same start issue. That's why I wanted to no the id of your restictor. what the difference in IDS of your DIY one and the one Greg sent you?

ON my GG skimmer It became a very grey area for me, wheel dia. vs venturi ID/restictorID. I just had to ditch the restictor. my goal was to minimize water flow and up my air to water ratio. it worked the start issue made me go back to no restiror. But is not the same as what you have because they are different pumps. all that and I don't have anything constructive to say oh well. I guess stick with your DIY one until it is good and broke in.

Roland Jacques · 11/16/2006, 08:41 PM

mavgi,
Are you trying to say something? or just trying to get the thread to spilt?

mavgi · 11/16/2006, 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Roland Jacques
mavgi,
Are you trying to say something? or just trying to get the thread to spilt?

i am very sorry i don't know what happen my "enter key" stuck and that was the result hope all foegive me

UCanDoIt · 11/16/2006, 08:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by mavgi
there is 2 way first you can cut from the diameter of the mesh and it will start easy it's will not shake.

second if you want to keep the diameter of the mesh you need to restart the pump of the water and slowly into the water till the pump will flow water with the bubble and then to connect it to the skimmer body (little pain)

the problem with it's because the mesh diameter it's not correct and when you trim it the pump will run easy and start quick

Measure your threads on the threadwheel before you do this. If it is the incorrect Euro version 47mm, then trim down to 45mm as the USA current is too strong and spins the impeller to strong. But if you already have the correct 45mm USA threaded impeller, I wouldn't trim too much or IMO, your water level within the skimmer will be too low and the amount of water flowing through the skimmer will slow down as well.

Maximus · 11/16/2006, 08:59 PM

Yes, the problem is definitely related to the threadwheel being too large. Before I had cut down my threadwheel, I would get the same rattling noise and the pump took a few minutes to restart when I had unplugged it. Ever since I trimmed the threadwheel, the pump has no problem restarting.

UCanDoIt · 11/16/2006, 09:02 PM

For those who has been following this BM150, I don't know if you've noticed that during this 2nd week, the amount of skimmate takes 1/2 the time to accumulate. During the 1st week, this much skimmate took 48 hours to accumulate. As fast as this is accumulating, one would need to empty out the collection cup every other day. Also, after the 1st week, there hasn't been any Kent Marine Essential Elements put into the tank to test if the theory was true that it causes the emerald green color in the skimmate. Guess it's true! Hope everyone has enjoyed the posts... now this skimmer will move on to Fliger...

mavgi · 11/16/2006, 09:03 PM

i change complete the mesh from my 2 pump my diameter it's the same as the wheel impeller even less , and i am able to skime wet and dry i pull more air then the original 47mm and 45mm
(checked all the size).

i think that all the first shippment come with 47mm .

Roland Jacques · 11/16/2006, 09:27 PM

Im going to mis that BM150, the skimmate looks just like what i want to get on my personal skimmer, skimmate a little on the wet side and fairly dark.

Chirstine, would you say thats a quart a day?

Micheal,
are you saying your trimed your mech Dia. down some? (less than 45?)

mavgi · 11/16/2006, 09:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Roland Jacques
Im going to mis that BM150, the skimmate looks just like what i want to get on my personal skimmer, skimmate a little on the wet side and fairly dark.

Chirstine, would you say thats a quart a day?

Micheal,
are you saying your trimed your mech Dia. down some? (less than 45?)

when i saw the mesh i couldn't catch my finger

and yes even less then the wheel impeller size. but i am waiting for other sample and when i will be able to get easy mod and best result i will post here all the info so everyone can try it to . meantime in this mod i can skim what ever i want .

UCanDoIt · 11/16/2006, 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Roland Jacques
Im going to mis that BM150, the skimmate looks just like what i want to get on my personal skimmer, skimmate a little on the wet side and fairly dark.

Chirstine, would you say thats a quart a day?

I just got the approximate liquid measurements. The BM150 collection cup will hold approximately 5 cups. During the 1st week, the skimmer was collecting 1-1.5 cups daily. Starting the 2nd week, it is definitely collecting at least 2 cups daily. I know the closeup of the collection cup makes it look big, but it isn't very big. I will post startup photos of the BM200 later tonight when I get some time.

UCanDoIt · 11/16/2006, 11:43 PM

Again, I am not doing the testing of this new Bubblemaster 200 skimmer. It is in the sump of my local dealer. I grab a few photos as he was setting it up this afternoon. I asked him to wait until I got there so that I could get some good photos of everything.

Tank Size: 180g fish only tank with several large Angelfishes and several medium Tangs and a handful of smaller fishes, feedings are twice daily with pellet food (spectrum & spirulina). No other dosing of additives have taken place in over a week.

Previous Skimmer on this tank: He just finished doing a 1 1/2 week test with the baby brother, BM150. This should be a good match for this 180g medium bioload tank.

Paulairduck · 11/17/2006, 01:38 AM

cant wait to see the results on the 200

Sharkboy97 · 11/17/2006, 08:11 AM

Out of curiousity how long can the BM200 go without emptying the cup on average? If its only a few days what does everyone do if they go on vacation?

steve the plumb · 11/17/2006, 08:53 AM

I would think if you have the space drill a drain plug with a container.If possible place the container outside the stand,depends on set up sometimes this is an eyesore.My wife hated this with my old stand so she bought me a small wooden box that looked nice (wrong stain) but was nicer looking than a jug in plain view.She didn't like the look of putride green nog

UCanDoIt · 11/17/2006, 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sharkboy97
Out of curiousity how long can the BM200 go without emptying the cup on average? If its only a few days what does everyone do if they go on vacation?

I'm of the opinion the manufacturers should make a collection cup as big as possible so that it will hold over a week of potential skimmate. Typically, if a skimmer isn't cleaned within a 7-10 day period, the skimmate production slows down because there is too much gunk built up in the riser tube.

On my big H&S skimmer that I had earlier on my 175g, I was gone 3 weeks for my honeymoon and when I got back, the collection cup wasn't filled, but the riser tube looked like doggy poop. Then again, I have a light bioload. As soon as I cleaned and empty the collection cup, skimmer kicked in immediately.

11/16/2006, 08:31 PM	#927
Paulairduck I LOVE FREE FRAGS!!! Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Chino Hills Posts: 2,909	restart issues also! I have the same problem with my skimmer, (ATI 200), it need's a blow start and it doesn't skim yet, I now have it a tub of saltwater in the garage, it will not go back in my sump until I see some NOG!

11/16/2006, 08:37 PM	#936
Roland Jacques Premium Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Atlanta GA Posts: 2,848	I tried a restriction on a GG skimmer pump and had the same start issue. That's why I wanted to no the id of your restictor. what the difference in IDS of your DIY one and the one Greg sent you? ON my GG skimmer It became a very grey area for me, wheel dia. vs venturi ID/restictorID. I just had to ditch the restictor. my goal was to minimize water flow and up my air to water ratio. it worked the start issue made me go back to no restiror. But is not the same as what you have because they are different pumps. all that and I don't have anything constructive to say oh well. I guess stick with your DIY one until it is good and broke in. __________________ Roland

11/16/2006, 08:41 PM	#937
Roland Jacques Premium Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Atlanta GA Posts: 2,848	mavgi, Are you trying to say something? or just trying to get the thread to spilt? __________________ Roland

11/16/2006, 08:59 PM	#940
Maximus Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Monterey County Posts: 6,442	Yes, the problem is definitely related to the threadwheel being too large. Before I had cut down my threadwheel, I would get the same rattling noise and the pump took a few minutes to restart when I had unplugged it. Ever since I trimmed the threadwheel, the pump has no problem restarting. __________________ This space for rent... Current Tank Info: 36x36x16 A.G.E. tank. Lighting: ATI Straton. Circulation: 2x Vortech MP40wQd's. Skimmer: Red Sea 300. Controller: Neptune Apex. Doser: Neptune Dos.

11/16/2006, 09:02 PM	#941
UCanDoIt Moved On Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Bay Area CA Posts: 1,684	Final Photo of the BM150 For those who has been following this BM150, I don't know if you've noticed that during this 2nd week, the amount of skimmate takes 1/2 the time to accumulate. During the 1st week, this much skimmate took 48 hours to accumulate. As fast as this is accumulating, one would need to empty out the collection cup every other day. Also, after the 1st week, there hasn't been any Kent Marine Essential Elements put into the tank to test if the theory was true that it causes the emerald green color in the skimmate. Guess it's true! Hope everyone has enjoyed the posts... now this skimmer will move on to Fliger...

11/16/2006, 07:58 PM	#926
Hammercoral Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Elmhurst Posts: 220	Its with the one they sent me it wont restart, just makes the pump start shaking, my diy one has been fine for 6 days and its been turned on/off several times as I have been spending much time in the sump lately.

11/16/2006, 08:37 PM	#929
mavgi Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: queens n.y Posts: 2,209

11/16/2006, 08:37 PM	#930
mavgi Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: queens n.y Posts: 2,209	my K/b get crazy

11/16/2006, 08:37 PM	#931
mavgi Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: queens n.y Posts: 2,209	i am very sorry

11/16/2006, 08:37 PM	#932
mavgi Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: queens n.y Posts: 2,209

11/16/2006, 08:37 PM	#934
mavgi Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: queens n.y Posts: 2,209	sorry the K/B

11/16/2006, 08:37 PM	#935
mavgi Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: queens n.y Posts: 2,209	again

11/16/2006, 09:03 PM	#942
mavgi Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: queens n.y Posts: 2,209	i change complete the mesh from my 2 pump my diameter it's the same as the wheel impeller even less , and i am able to skime wet and dry i pull more air then the original 47mm and 45mm (checked all the size). i think that all the first shippment come with 47mm .

11/16/2006, 09:27 PM	#943
Roland Jacques Premium Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Atlanta GA Posts: 2,848	Im going to mis that BM150, the skimmate looks just like what i want to get on my personal skimmer, skimmate a little on the wet side and fairly dark. Chirstine, would you say thats a quart a day? Micheal, are you saying your trimed your mech Dia. down some? (less than 45?) __________________ Roland

11/16/2006, 11:43 PM	#946
UCanDoIt Moved On Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Bay Area CA Posts: 1,684	BM200 setup at my local dealer's Again, I am not doing the testing of this new Bubblemaster 200 skimmer. It is in the sump of my local dealer. I grab a few photos as he was setting it up this afternoon. I asked him to wait until I got there so that I could get some good photos of everything. Tank Size: 180g fish only tank with several large Angelfishes and several medium Tangs and a handful of smaller fishes, feedings are twice daily with pellet food (spectrum & spirulina). No other dosing of additives have taken place in over a week. Previous Skimmer on this tank: He just finished doing a 1 1/2 week test with the baby brother, BM150. This should be a good match for this 180g medium bioload tank.

11/17/2006, 01:38 AM	#947
Paulairduck I LOVE FREE FRAGS!!! Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Chino Hills Posts: 2,909	now we are talking cant wait to see the results on the 200

11/17/2006, 08:11 AM	#948
Sharkboy97 Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: florida Posts: 43	Out of curiousity how long can the BM200 go without emptying the cup on average? If its only a few days what does everyone do if they go on vacation?

11/17/2006, 08:53 AM	#949
steve the plumb Moved On Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Montreal, Canada Posts: 3,664	I would think if you have the space drill a drain plug with a container.If possible place the container outside the stand,depends on set up sometimes this is an eyesore.My wife hated this with my old stand so she bought me a small wooden box that looked nice (wrong stain) but was nicer looking than a jug in plain view.She didn't like the look of putride green nog