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[Rot26]

I have a 72 gallon bowfront that finished cycling a little over a month ago. It has about 100 lbs of rock and 80 lbs of sand. I do not have a sump yet, but may add one this fall. I've started putting in coral and will be adding my snails this week. After that, I plan on putting in 1-2 fish at a time every 2-4 weeks. Here are the fish in the order I intend to add them:

• Cleaner Shrimp
• Firefish
• Royal Gramma Basslet
• Kaurdern Cardinal (male and female if I can, if not, just one)
• Ocellaris Clownfish (mated pair)
• Orange Stripe Prawn Gobbie (or other gobbie that will pair with the pistol shrimp)
• Pistol Shrimp
• Blenny (sailfin or bicolor)
• Clam (1-2)
• Brittle Star Fish
• Wrasse (Carpenter and McCosker Flasher)
• Bubble tip Anemone
• Red Mandarin (in 9-12 months and after setting up a 'fuge)

Thanks again for this. Just reading through the ones you've already helped has gotten me to change my list quite a bit. It's also given me the knowledge to know when the LFS is giving ... let's call it, not quite the full truth, advice.

[enforcer8621]

The stand is finished for my biocube 29 and while it's setting there empty, I've had time to think what I want for livestock. I love fish with personalities and always liked seeing symbiotic relationships. My considerations are:

1 algae blenny, because they are cool and good cleaners

1 yellow watchman goby and pistol shrimp

After the tank has matured and settled well enough I want:

2 juvenile ocellaris clowns that will (hopefully) reside in an RBTA

I don't think this is too cramped for a 29 that will have plenty of LR and I believe they should all play nice with each other. If anyone has concerns, please inform me. I would like to see the ocellaris become a breeding pair, but it's not up to me.

29 gal biocube
35-40 lbs LR with a LR back wall
no skimmer (yet)
mechanical filtration via foam blocks in center partition. I'll be doing weekly water changes of about 10%
stock lighting with fan upgrades
softy and lps corals will come with time

[fermentedhiker]

Proposed build; 93gallon cube w/29 gallon sump(fuge section will be for pod and gracilaria production0. Also a second fuge(maybe a 20 extra high) fed of the return line and then dumping back into the sump, which will have a dsb, reef rubble, and caulerpa(for nutrient export) which be a sort of "duplex" fuge with the macro making the lower portions of the rubble a dark fuge section.

Cuc will be mostly snail based, with possible addtions such as lettuce nudi, brittle star, tiger cuke, fuzzy chiton, blood red cleaner shrimp,

Planning on a mixed reef with a couple rock flower nems(and some porcelain anemone crab) and either a Malu or RBTA.

Wish list which is too much I think is as follows and approximately listed in order of introduction.

1x Randalls Goby and pistol shrimp
1x Purple firefish
1x Yellowhead Jawfish
1x Starry Blenny
2x Green Mandarin(bonded pair)
2x Darwin Ocellaris
1x Flasher Wrasse(Carpenters or McCoskers)
1x Atlantic Longnose Butterflyfish
1x Blackcap Basslet
1x Fisher's Dwarf Angel
1x Tomini Tang

I know I need to trim this down so I'm looking for advice on which ones to give up on
My concerns at the moment are;
The firefish will be intimidated by the basslet perhaps to it's doom.
The Jawfish will stay in it's burrow because of the activity level from some of the other fish and so I won't be able to observe it's normal behavior.
The blenny, angel and tang make three grazers which could be too much?
The tank even with two fuge's won't be able to generate enough Pods for two Mandarins.

I appreciate any thoughts/suggestions you might have.

Thanks
Adam

[RedStangGA]

Wanted to run a revised stocking list by you. 60 gal cube, 24x24x24, 20h sump with small refuge built in of about 8gal, 5 inch sand bed, skimmer.

2 pearly jaw fish to be added first

1 Tailspot blenny

1 Adorned Wrasse

1 Yellow Wrasse

1 Lubbock's Fairy

1 Fathead Anthias

2 McCosker's Flasher wrasses, 1 male and 1 female

2 Ocellaris Clowns

I feel this is overstocked but want to be sure. If so the clowns might be the first to go.
Would I be better off dropping the Fathead?
Could I substitute an additional male flasher like a Filamented in place of the yellow wrasse to encourage flashing behavior?
Is getting a female too much of a risk of it turning male?
Any chance of substituting an anampses twistii for the adorned or yellow wrasse?

Thanks again for this service.

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by Rot26

I have a 72 gallon bowfront that finished cycling a little over a month ago. It has about 100 lbs of rock and 80 lbs of sand. I do not have a sump yet, but may add one this fall. I've started putting in coral and will be adding my snails this week. After that, I plan on putting in 1-2 fish at a time every 2-4 weeks. Here are the fish in the order I intend to add them:

• Cleaner Shrimp
• Firefish
• Royal Gramma Basslet
• Kaurdern Cardinal (male and female if I can, if not, just one) tank raised male plus female is fine
• Ocellaris Clownfish (mated pair)
• Orange Stripe Prawn Gobbie (or other gobbie that will pair with the pistol shrimp)
• Pistol Shrimp
• Blenny (sailfin or bicolor)
• Clam (1-2)
• Brittle Star Fish
• Wrasse (Carpenter and McCosker Flasher)
• Bubble tip Anemone
• Red Mandarin (in 9-12 months and after setting up a 'fuge)

looks good to me; order is fine as well. Clams depend on lighting.

Thanks again for this. Just reading through the ones you've already helped has gotten me to change my list quite a bit. It's also given me the knowledge to know when the LFS is giving ... let's call it, not quite the full truth, advice.

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by RedStangGA

Wanted to run a revised stocking list by you. 60 gal cube, 24x24x24, 20h sump with small refuge built in of about 8gal, 5 inch sand bed, skimmer.

2 pearly jaw fish to be added first

1 Tailspot blenny

1 Adorned Wrasse

1 Yellow Wrasse

1 Lubbock's Fairy

1 Fathead Anthias

2 McCosker's Flasher wrasses, 1 male and 1 female

2 Ocellaris Clowns

I feel this is overstocked but want to be sure. If so the clowns might be the first to go.
Would I be better off dropping the Fathead?
Could I substitute an additional male flasher like a Filamented in place of the yellow wrasse to encourage flashing behavior?
Is getting a female too much of a risk of it turning male?
Any chance of substituting an anampses twistii for the adorned or yellow wrasse?

Thanks again for this service.

not overstocked but be careful as you have some jumpers.

[thompson2224]

I am currently letting my 72 gallon tank cycle right now and I am planning my livestock out for it.

My current stock in a 20 gallon that will be moved into the 72 is:
2 clown fish
2 cleaner shrimp
snails
frogspawn
rose bud anenome
toadstool leather
green star polyp
rainbow acan
merry christmas scan
torch coral
rhodactis

In the 72 I am planning on adding a mandarin goby, coral beauty, diamond goby, neon goby, dragon face pipefish, and red scooter blenny, magnificent anenome, some more ricordea, and other corals that I find I like.

Any other suggestions of fish or corals would be great too.

As for my pod population in these two tanks they are crawling, literally everywhere all over the glass and rocks. And they have no natural predator in the tank right now so they will continue to populate.

With the 72 gallon, I am adding a 20 gallon sump onto it using the 20 gallon I currently have running for it, I will use chaeto and other algae in the refugium and add more pods into it so they continue to populate and make it into the tank.

For filtration I will have 90 lbs of rock in the tank and 80 lbs of sand. I also have a reef octopus skimmer for the sump, UV sterilizer, and two filters that will allow me to run carbon if needed.


Thanks

[RedStangGA]

Originally Posted by snorvich

not overstocked but be careful as you have some jumpers.

I have 1/4" mesh in a frame covering the top. Considering a "locking mechanism" to lock the frame in but it's a rimless cube so not much to work with.

Thanks again.

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by thompson2224

I am currently letting my 72 gallon tank cycle right now and I am planning my livestock out for it.

My current stock in a 20 gallon that will be moved into the 72 is:
2 clown fish
2 cleaner shrimp
snails
frogspawn
rose bud anenome
toadstool leather
green star polyp
rainbow acan
merry christmas scan
torch coral
rhodactis will eat fish

In the 72 I am planning on adding a mandarin goby, coral beauty, diamond goby, neon goby, dragon face pipefish, and red scooter blenny, magnificent anenome, some more ricordea, and other corals that I find I like.

a lot of copepod eaters for this sized tank

Any other suggestions of fish or corals would be great too.

As for my pod population in these two tanks they are crawling, literally everywhere all over the glass and rocks. And they have no natural predator in the tank right now so they will continue to populate.

With the 72 gallon, I am adding a 20 gallon sump onto it using the 20 gallon I currently have running for it, I will use chaeto and other algae in the refugium and add more pods into it so they continue to populate and make it into the tank.

For filtration I will have 90 lbs of rock in the tank and 80 lbs of sand. I also have a reef octopus skimmer for the sump, UV sterilizer, and two filters that will allow me to run carbon if needed.

However, you will need to solve your ich problem first. And I do not address those issues within this thread


Thanks

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by RedStangGA

I have 1/4" mesh in a frame covering the top. Considering a "locking mechanism" to lock the frame in but it's a rimless cube so not much to work with.

Thanks again.

1/4 inch mesh will work.

[Gashauler]

I have two yellow line chromis, two occ. clowns and a bangai cardinal in a 36 gal bow. also green star polyps and a green torch. 25 lbs of lr, 40 lbs of ls. ph=8.1, a=0, n02=0, no3=10ish. don't know alk, cal or mag. my question is can anyone tell me about the yellow line chromis??? cant really find much info on them. what I can find says the eat Algae and zooplankton. mine have been eating frozen Mysis as have the occ. clowns and bangai cardinal

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by Gashauler

I have two yellow line chromis, two occ. clowns and a bangai cardinal in a 36 gal bow. also green star polyps and a green torch. 25 lbs of lr, 40 lbs of ls. ph=8.1, a=0, n02=0, no3=10ish. don't know alk, cal or mag. my question is can anyone tell me about the yellow line chromis??? cant really find much info on them. what I can find says the eat Algae and zooplankton. mine have been eating frozen Mysis as have the occ. clowns and bangai cardinal

Best to post as a separate thread in Reef Fish. This thread is only about marine fish compatibility with behavioral analysis of stocking plans.

[Menace2Sobriety]

Originally Posted by snorvich

.......

Got it.... so I basically just bought me another Nano that ate a few too many big macs! *sigh*

Ahhh well.... back to the drawing board... better to learn BEFORE the fish get shoved into a proverbial shoe box!

Thx m8!

Menace

[Gashauler]

okie dokie

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by Menace2Sobriety

Got it.... so I basically just bought me another Nano that ate a few too many big macs! *sigh*

Ahhh well.... back to the drawing board... better to learn BEFORE the fish get shoved into a proverbial shoe box!

Thx m8!

Menace

Since I do thousands of these, I never remember prior questions and answers without refresh.

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by enforcer8621

The stand is finished for my biocube 29 and while it's setting there empty, I've had time to think what I want for livestock. I love fish with personalities and always liked seeing symbiotic relationships. My considerations are:

1 algae blenny, because they are cool and good cleaners

1 yellow watchman goby and pistol shrimp

After the tank has matured and settled well enough I want:

2 juvenile ocellaris clowns that will (hopefully) reside in an RBTA

I don't think this is too cramped for a 29 that will have plenty of LR and I believe they should all play nice with each other. If anyone has concerns, please inform me. I would like to see the ocellaris become a breeding pair, but it's not up to me.

29 gal biocube
35-40 lbs LR with a LR back wall
no skimmer (yet)
mechanical filtration via foam blocks in center partition. I'll be doing weekly water changes of about 10%
stock lighting with fan upgrades
softy and lps corals will come with time

that plan should be fine

[enforcer8621]

Tyvm

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by enforcer8621

Tyvm

always a pleasure. Be sure the clownfish are juveniles.

[luis510]

I have a 105 DSA tank. I have about 90-100 pounds of live rock, live sand and 30g sump. In the sump I have a reef octopus xs160.
In the tank I have
2 sml clowns
1 coral beauty
1 lamark angel

I have one 4 inch yellow tang in a different tank I want to put in main tank later on. It's going to be a mixed reef. Can I add a purple tang?
If not what other suggestions?
I also like anthias? Any ideas are highly appreciated.

[thompson2224]

Yeah im not adding anything to this tank until may because of the ich problem. Is there no real issues with the tank stock? Will I have enough pods in the tank if they continue to produce until may and then I have a refugium with chaeto and I will add a lot of pods to it

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by luis510

I have a 105 DSA tank. I have about 90-100 pounds of live rock, live sand and 30g sump. In the sump I have a reef octopus xs160.
In the tank I have
2 sml clowns
1 coral beauty
1 lamark angel

I have one 4 inch yellow tang in a different tank I want to put in main tank later on. It's going to be a mixed reef. Can I add a purple tang?
If not what other suggestions?
I also like anthias? Any ideas are highly appreciated.

Either tang requires a larger tank than you have; in any case, two zebrasoma tangs in this sized tank will be a problem.

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by thompson2224

Yeah im not adding anything to this tank until may because of the ich problem. Is there no real issues with the tank stock? Will I have enough pods in the tank if they continue to produce until may and then I have a refugium with chaeto and I will add a lot of pods to it

No, if you only had one copepod eater, the tank would be marginal; more than one will not work long term. But you need to solve the ich problem for existing fish and other contents

[thompson2224]

Originally Posted by snorvich

No, if you only had one copepod eater, the tank would be marginal; more than one will not work long term. But you need to solve the ich problem for existing fish and other contents

I already pulled all my fish out and I'm treating them and they won't go into the DT til may along with any new fish. So theres no way I could have more than one copepod eater in the tank?

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by thompson2224

I already pulled all my fish out and I'm treating them and they won't go into the DT til may along with any new fish. So theres no way I could have more than one copepod eater in the tank?

Do you want long term success? If so go with only one or get a larger tank

[grussell]

I have a 75 gallon that I am presently cycling. I have about 85-90 pds of live rock and 4 inches live sand. Bh-90 hob skimmer plus a carbon/gfo filter. 2 koralia 1150s for circulation. Going FOWLR first. No sump

Wish list

2 ocellaris clowns
Baggai cardinal
Firefish
Exquisite fairy wrasse
Flasher wrasse
Blue assessor
Flame angel

Probably in that order. I'd also love to pull off a coral beauty in the same tank but that is a long shot. Also considering pajama cardinal and maybe getting a refugium for pods and then getting a mandarin after a year or so...

Too ambitious?

Grussell.....