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Mael · 03/10/2014, 10:59 AM

Snorvich, have you heard of different chromis being more peaceful than others. I am curious as to why places like LA list ones like Chromis atripectoralis, Chromis cyaneus and Chromis opercularis as "Peaceful" compared to all the others listed as "semi Agrssive" which makes me wonder if they can live together without numbers winnowing over time like the chromis we are used to.

sorry if this is the wrong place for this.

Plainswalker · 03/10/2014, 11:33 AM

Just checking in - 90g 48x18x24, SPS-centric.

Current inhabitants:
2x Ocellaris
Tailspot blenny
2x cleaner shrimp
Yellow watchman
Yellow Coris wrasse

Would these additions be compatible (in order of addition):
Lubbock's Fairy Wrasse
McCosker's Flasher Wrasse
Yellowhead Jawfish
Blue Reef Chromis
Kole Yellow Eye or Tomini Tang

snorvich · 03/10/2014, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Mael

Snorvich, have you heard of different chromis being more peaceful than others. I am curious as to why places like LA list ones like Chromis atripectoralis, Chromis cyaneus and Chromis opercularis as "Peaceful" compared to all the others listed as "semi Agrssive" which makes me wonder if they can live together without numbers winnowing over time like the chromis we are used to.

sorry if this is the wrong place for this.

this describes behavior towards other fish as opposed to their own kind. As far as I know, all chromis, except in large tanks with a large amount of flow will winnow down their numbers to one or at most a pair

snorvich · 03/10/2014, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Plainswalker

Just checking in - 90g 48x18x24, SPS-centric.

Current inhabitants:
2x Ocellaris
Tailspot blenny
2x cleaner shrimp
Yellow watchman
Yellow Coris wrasse

Would these additions be compatible (in order of addition):
Lubbock's Fairy Wrasse
McCosker's Flasher Wrasse
Yellowhead Jawfish
Blue Reef Chromis
Kole Yellow Eye or Tomini Tang

Yes, they should be fine but you may have negative interaction with the jawfish and the watchman goby in this sized tank

lukie13 · 03/10/2014, 12:08 PM

Thanks very much for your reply! All the best.

Plainswalker · 03/10/2014, 12:09 PM

Thanks Snorvich!

snorvich · 03/10/2014, 12:11 PM

Always a pleasure; check back if you have changes.

killeraggie · 03/10/2014, 03:44 PM

Hi guys. New to the forum and new to saltwater. Have had freshwater for 10 or so years. Recently got a 44g fresh tank and turning my old 10g into a nano. Setup so far is 10lbs live sand, 12lbs live Fiji rock. Tank should cycle in the next week or so. Have a QT set up and ready to pick up some livestock. Will this tank hold a pair of clowns? What about a clean up crew? Running a HOB filter and small power head. The guys at the LFS assure me 3 fish, a few snails and a hermit or two will be fine. Any thoughts?

snorvich · 03/10/2014, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by killeraggie

Hi guys. New to the forum and new to saltwater. Have had freshwater for 10 or so years. Recently got a 44g fresh tank and turning my old 10g into a nano. Setup so far is 10lbs live sand, 12lbs live Fiji rock. Tank should cycle in the next week or so. Have a QT set up and ready to pick up some livestock. Will this tank hold a pair of clowns? What about a clean up crew? Running a HOB filter and small power head. The guys at the LFS assure me 3 fish, a few snails and a hermit or two will be fine. Any thoughts?

a ten gallon tank is not sufficient for a pair of clowns. Depending on species, proper sizing would be 25 gallons to 50 gallons.

killeraggie · 03/10/2014, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by snorvich

a ten gallon tank is not sufficient for a pair of clowns. Depending on species, proper sizing would be 25 gallons to 50 gallons.

What would your recommendation be for a tank this size?

molassito · 03/10/2014, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by snorvich

I doubt that you can add any fish to that tank with those established fish.

Thanks for quick response.

What about an anemone?

snorvich · 03/10/2014, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by killeraggie

What would your recommendation be for a tank this size?

As those who follow this thread know, I do not provide recommendations for a variety of reasons. If you check Dr. Foster and Smith Live Aquaria under Marine Fish, nano fish, they will give you an idea of what can work in this sized tank.

snorvich · 03/10/2014, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by molassito

Thanks for quick response.

What about an anemone?

Anemones require good lighting and an established tank. Since this thread is only about marine fish compatibility, I don't really answer questions about anemones.

Pigpen17 · 03/11/2014, 10:59 PM

OK!

So I am about ready to start QTing my first fish, and I think I have a stock list. It's small, but big for my tank at the same time.

Agile Chromis (add first? Aggressiveness vs. hardiness?)
Midas Blenny
Bristle tooth Tang (A bit big for my tank on the long end, but probably ok for a few years)

And yes, I am going to start and finish with one Chromis.

snorvich · 03/12/2014, 04:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Pigpen17

OK!

So I am about ready to start QTing my first fish, and I think I have a stock list. It's small, but big for my tank at the same time.

Agile Chromis (add first? Aggressiveness vs. hardiness?)
Midas Blenny
Bristle tooth Tang (A bit big for my tank on the long end, but probably ok for a few years)

And yes, I am going to start and finish with one Chromis.

The tang needs a larger tank; Reef Central's recommend tank sizes for tangs can be found here. Two chromis will become one chromis over time,

Pigpen17 · 03/12/2014, 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by snorvich

The tang needs a larger tank; Reef Central's recommend tank sizes for tangs can be found here. Two chromis will become one chromis over time,

Thanks for the response.

Yeah. I know as far as the Tang goes. I keep dancing on the wrong side of that 70g line, but I am under it. I know when it comes time, there will be no Tang in my tank. I just like a good fish shaped fish!

What about the Agile? It's a nice 3", colorful, "fish shaped" fish, but other than Green Chromis I don't know of any others that don't become annoying.

And the Midas is a good sized dude, and I have seen a few at the LFS swimming around the top of the tank. They look cool and busy. I have a feeling I am asking for trouble with these two though.

snorvich · 03/12/2014, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Pigpen17

Thanks for the response.

Yeah. I know as far as the Tang goes. I keep dancing on the wrong side of that 70g line, but I am under it. I know when it comes time, there will be no Tang in my tank. I just like a good fish shaped fish!

What about the Agile? It's a nice 3", colorful, "fish shaped" fish, but other than Green Chromis I don't know of any others that don't become annoying.

And the Midas is a good sized dude, and I have seen a few at the LFS swimming around the top of the tank. They look cool and busy. I have a feeling I am asking for trouble with these two though.

Well, all chromis will winnow down to one, and of course, chromis are damsels, which in small tanks can be ornery.

SilverAvia · 03/13/2014, 06:02 PM

55 gallon with 22 gallon sump

2 ocellaris clown fish
1 helfrichi firefish
1 purple firefish
2 yellow head jaw fish
1 Tanaka's pygmy wrasse
1 Royal Gamma Basslet
1 yellow tail damsel

snorvich · 03/13/2014, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by SilverAvia

55 gallon with 22 gallon sump

2 ocellaris clown fish
1 helfrichi firefish I am not sure two firefish will be stable long term in this sized tank
1 purple firefish
2 yellow head jaw fish
1 Tanaka's pygmy wrasse
1 Royal Gamma Basslet
1 yellow tail damsel may have issues with the G. loretto

Except as noted, should be fine

mattack · 03/13/2014, 07:47 PM

Have a 29 biocube with a couple small clowns came home to find pod eating my zoos maybe looking to find a fish that can cut down there population and will eat other foods if there run out of pods. Any ideas?

snorvich · 03/13/2014, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by mattack

Have a 29 biocube with a couple small clowns came home to find pod eating my zoos maybe looking to find a fish that can cut down there population and will eat other foods if there run out of pods. Any ideas?

copepods do not eat zoanthids. Most fish will eat copepods but there won't be sufficient in that sized tank to sustain them. It is best to pick fish that are behaviorally compatible with the environment you are providing.

mattack · 03/13/2014, 07:50 PM

Here a photo

snorvich · 03/13/2014, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by mattack

Here a photo

Sorry, I do not see copepods eating your zoanthid. Many of the smaller copepods feed directly on phytoplankton, catching cells singly. Some of the larger species are predators of their smaller relatives. Many benthic copepods eat organic detritus or the bacteria that grow in it, and their mouth parts are adapted for scraping and biting.

mattack · 03/13/2014, 08:15 PM

Others believed it was a amphipod

snorvich · 03/13/2014, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by mattack

Others believed it was a amphipod

different issue. In any case this thread is only about marine fish compatibility so I need to get us back on track.

03/10/2014, 11:33 AM	#9652
Plainswalker Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Pacific Northwest Posts: 67	Just checking in - 90g 48x18x24, SPS-centric. Current inhabitants: 2x Ocellaris Tailspot blenny 2x cleaner shrimp Yellow watchman Yellow Coris wrasse Would these additions be compatible (in order of addition): Lubbock's Fairy Wrasse McCosker's Flasher Wrasse Yellowhead Jawfish Blue Reef Chromis Kole Yellow Eye or Tomini Tang Last edited by Plainswalker; 03/10/2014 at 11:39 AM. Reason: Added a jawfish

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Pigpen17 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Tacoma, Wa. Posts: 1,006	OK! So I am about ready to start QTing my first fish, and I think I have a stock list. It's small, but big for my tank at the same time. Agile Chromis (add first? Aggressiveness vs. hardiness?) Midas Blenny Bristle tooth Tang (A bit big for my tank on the long end, but probably ok for a few years) And yes, I am going to start and finish with one Chromis. __________________ Never trust a man with a castle in his tank. 56g Column \|Aquamaxx HOB-1 Skimmer \|Reef Breeders Photon 24 LED \|850gph Koralia (X2) \| Maxspect Gyre XF130

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