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[Callahan88]

135G, length Is 74" hight is 50" width is 20"..

Roaly Gramma
Purple Fire Fish
Watchman goby
Blackcap basslet
Clown fish
Scissor tail dart fish
Lamarcks angle fish
MAYBE: Sargassum fish
Sailfin blenny
3 Or More: Spotted cardinalfish
3 Or More: Blue reef chromis
2: Black & White chromis
2: Zebra Barred dartfish
One Of The Last: Green Mandarin
Blue and Powdered Blue tang.
MAYBE: Achilles Tang

[Carmen2]

PLEASE DISREGARD MY EARLIER POST....THAT WAS THE WRONG ONE! SO SORRY!
Hi Snorvich, I have a 75 gal. tank, 50 gal. sump with all the usual equipment and starting soft and SPS corals.

The fish include:
1 - Randall's Goby with shrimp companion
2 - Lyretail Anthias
1 - Lawnmower Goby
1 - Corius Wrasse
1 - Royal Gramma
2 - Ocellaris Clowns (home bred, but not by me.)

I posted on another forum that I was looking for one last fish that would swim at the top of the aquarium, as I have no fish that fill that niche right now. People were nice to offer suggestions but I didn't really care for the suggestions given: Chromis, Sissor-tailed Dartfish, and a few said the Midas Blenny.

I am fresh out of ideas so have decided on a different direction. I want to end up with a fish "shape" I don't have yet like the smaller tangs and dwarf angels.

Some I've considered are bristle-toothed tangs such as Tomini, Square tail or a Two Spot. I've read up on two dwarf angels may do okay, according to Liveaquaria: A Bi-color and Flameback.

Many threads I've read say these fish are good citizens, and they believe it's because they keep them well fed so they don't bother the corals. So I know it's iffy, but out of these, is there one you think would work for my last fish?




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[snorvich]

Originally Posted by Callahan88

135G, length Is 74" hight is 50" width is 20"..

Roaly Gramma
Purple Fire Fish
Watchman goby
Blackcap basslet
Clown fish species?
Scissor tail dart fish
Lamarcks angle fish
MAYBE: Sargassum fish
Sailfin blenny
3 Or More: Spotted cardinalfish
3 Or More: Blue reef chromis will become one over time
2: Black & White chromis will become one over time
2: Zebra Barred dartfish
One Of The Last: Green Mandarin
Blue and Powdered Blue tang. only one tang in this sized tank for long term stability. If by Blue yhou mean P. hepatus, that fish needs a much longer tank
MAYBE: Achilles Tang

[Callahan88]

What do you mean will become one over time?

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by Carmen2

PLEASE DISREGARD MY EARLIER POST....THAT WAS THE WRONG ONE! SO SORRY!
Hi Snorvich, I have a 75 gal. tank, 50 gal. sump with all the usual equipment and starting soft and SPS corals.

The fish include:
1 - Randall's Goby with shrimp companion
2 - Lyretail Anthias
1 - Lawnmower Goby
1 - Corius Wrasse
1 - Royal Gramma
2 - Ocellaris Clowns (home bred, but not by me.)

I posted on another forum that I was looking for one last fish that would swim at the top of the aquarium, as I have no fish that fill that niche right now. People were nice to offer suggestions but I didn't really care for the suggestions given: Chromis, Sissor-tailed Dartfish, and a few said the Midas Blenny.

I am fresh out of ideas so have decided on a different direction. I want to end up with a fish "shape" I don't have yet like the smaller tangs and dwarf angels.

Some I've considered are bristle-toothed tangs such as Tomini, Square tail or a Two Spot.

one of the bristle-toothed tangs would do fine but that would preclude another grazer such as a dwarf angel

I've read up on two dwarf angels may do okay, according to Liveaquaria: A Bi-color and Flameback. not reef (coral safe) long term

Many threads I've read say these fish are good citizens, and they believe it's because they keep them well fed so they don't bother the corals. So I know it's iffy, but out of these, is there one you think would work for my last fish?

fish will be fish and keeping them well fed will not necessarily keep them from munching on corals.


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[snorvich]

Originally Posted by Callahan88

What do you mean will become one over time?

In a group, the dominant one will kill the remainder

[Callahan88]

Originally Posted by snorvich

In a group, the dominant one will kill the remainder

So only one of each. And I was thinking about a Ocellaris clown

[shermanator]

Originally Posted by snorvich

fine exept the flame angel is marginal because of feeding requirements. The number of inches of adult fish is not relevant in saltwater. That is an old freshwater concept.

Okay, thanks. I was following a book that said 1" adult per 5 gal in saltwater. Is there a guide as to how many fish per tank size (if I stick to fish that LA says are good at or under 55 gal)? I can ask this elsewhere is that would be more appropriate.

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by shermanator

Okay, thanks. I was following a book that said 1" adult per 5 gal in saltwater. Is there a guide as to how many fish per tank size (if I stick to fish that LA says are good at or under 55 gal)? I can ask this elsewhere is that would be more appropriate.

The book that suggested that is way out of date. One can never predict the number of fish in a given tank as it is a function of ecological niche, behavior, and bioload. This thread, given a tank size and stocking list, will attempt to predict if your stocking list will work. So far our track record is pretty good as we have had over 10,000 inquiries.

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by Callahan88

So only one of each. And I was thinking about a Ocellaris clown

That species is fine. Yes, in general, except clownfish, only one of each, at least for the ones you were considering. There are exceptions but that is outside the scope of this inquiry.

[Callahan88]

Originally Posted by snorvich

That species is fine. Yes, in general, except clownfish, only one of each, at least for the ones you were considering. There are exceptions but that is outside the scope of this inquiry.

Great thank you so much, now I just have to put them In order :/

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by Callahan88

Great thank you so much, now I just have to put them In order :/

most aggressive last, most passive first.

[hunterisgreat]

Think mine got missed

Posting in here since I didn't see the sticky at first lol

Edit.. in a 210 tank ~72.5 x 24.5 x 29.5. ~250lbs liverock, Avast CS1 skimmer, 36" x 14" x 16" sump, and 24" x 15" x 15" refugium.

Currently in the tank:
4 decorator crabs
2 naked gobies <2"
3 chalk bass (all ~2")
1 lantern bass ~2"
1 bay anchovy ~3"
4 tiger conchs
1 thin line hermit
1 pencil urchin
4 peppermint shrimp
1 serpent starfish
2 flounder ~3"
~12 littleneck clams
various CUC consisting of small hermits, the normal snails
A good amount of locally collected grass shrimp
2 small fish fry that aren't big enough for me to ID yet, but look to be croaker or some sort of drum.

In route:
2 golden coral shrimp mated pair
2 yellowhead jawfish mated pair
1 cowfish.

Would like:
small sargassumfish and some sargassam natan as soon as the boat is de-winterized and I can get offshore.

I am keeping a south florida/caribbean/western atlantic native species tank

[Carmen2]

Originally Posted by Carmen2
PLEASE DISREGARD MY EARLIER POST....THAT WAS THE WRONG ONE! SO SORRY!
Hi Snorvich, I have a 75 gal. tank, 50 gal. sump with all the usual equipment and starting soft and SPS corals.

The fish include:
1 - Randall's Goby with shrimp companion
2 - Lyretail Anthias
1 - Lawnmower Goby
1 - Corius Wrasse
1 - Royal Gramma
2 - Ocellaris Clowns (home bred, but not by me.)

I posted on another forum that I was looking for one last fish that would swim at the top of the aquarium, as I have no fish that fill that niche right now. People were nice to offer suggestions but I didn't really care for the suggestions given: Chromis, Sissor-tailed Dartfish, and a few said the Midas Blenny.

I am fresh out of ideas so have decided on a different direction. I want to end up with a fish "shape" I don't have yet like the smaller tangs and dwarf angels.

Some I've considered are bristle-toothed tangs such as Tomini, Square tail or a Two Spot.

one of the bristle-toothed tangs would do fine but that would preclude another grazer such as a dwarf angel

I've read up on two dwarf angels may do okay, according to Liveaquaria: A Bi-color and Flameback. not reef (coral safe) long term

Many threads I've read say these fish are good citizens, and they believe it's because they keep them well fed so they don't bother the corals. So I know it's iffy, but out of these, is there one you think would work for my last fish?

fish will be fish and keeping them well fed will not necessarily keep them from munching on corals.

Thanks Snorvich! I will go with one the the bristle-tooth tangs.

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by hunterisgreat

Think mine got missed

Posting in here since I didn't see the sticky at first lol

Edit.. in a 210 tank ~72.5 x 24.5 x 29.5. ~250lbs liverock, Avast CS1 skimmer, 36" x 14" x 16" sump, and 24" x 15" x 15" refugium.

Currently in the tank:
4 decorator crabs
2 naked gobies <2"
3 chalk bass (all ~2")
1 lantern bass ~2"
1 bay anchovy ~3"
4 tiger conchs
1 thin line hermit
1 pencil urchin
4 peppermint shrimp
1 serpent starfish
2 flounder ~3"
~12 littleneck clams
various CUC consisting of small hermits, the normal snails
A good amount of locally collected grass shrimp
2 small fish fry that aren't big enough for me to ID yet, but look to be croaker or some sort of drum.

In route:
2 golden coral shrimp mated pair
2 yellowhead jawfish mated pair
1 cowfish. Interesting fish, but risky; as I am sure you know, they can nuke a tank

Would like:
small sargassumfish and some sargassam natan as soon as the boat is de-winterized and I can get offshore. well, sargassum fish are ambush predators and you have many animals you are keeping that would be victimized.

I am keeping a south florida/caribbean/western atlantic native species tank

[Justletters7]

75 gallon, FOWLR, with a sump
Canary Wrasse
Diamond Goby
Two Fire Fish
Three Pajama Cardinal Fish
Not sure about the following input appreciated!
Two Fire Shrimp
Two Cleaner Shrimp
Peppermint shrimp (I don't know how many)

Thank you for your time I and everybody else Appreciates it!

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by Justletters7

75 gallon, FOWLR, with a sump
Canary Wrasse
Diamond Goby
Two Fire Fish unless they are a bonded pair, only one will survive long term
Three Pajama Cardinal Fish
Not sure about the following input appreciated!
Two Fire Shrimp add concurrently
Two Cleaner Shrimp add concurrently
Peppermint shrimp (I don't know how many) there is no "number"; I have a dozen or so (they have babies, but not all survive)

[Justletters7]

I have been hearing that a lot about the Fire fish is there another fish you recommend that will swim at the top. I also heard that the Diamond goby will cause a sandstorm is there a sand shifter another goby that will be less destructive?
Thank you for your help

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by Justletters7

I have been hearing that a lot about the Fire fish is there another fish you recommend that will swim at the top.

firefish do not swim at the top, they hover about 3 inches above the substrate.

I also heard that the Diamond goby will cause a sandstorm is there a sand shifter another goby that will be less destructive?
Thank you for your help

despite popular belief, sand sifting fish are not a good idea in our sized aquaria. And they do not really keep the sand bed "clean"


As those who follow this thread know, I do not provide recommendations for a variety of reasons. I am always happy to review stocking plans as long as aquarium size is also provided.

[mastersonr]

6 ft. 150 gallon, just a few soft corals, 150 lbs live rock, 30 gallon sump

Current Fish:
melanurus wrasse
flame hawk
coral beauty
ocellaris clown
midas blenny
lawnmower blenny
azure damsel
blue / green chromis
pair of firefish
around 8 turbo snails and few lucky hermits that the wrasse hasn't found yet for CUC

Do I have room left for:

Genicanthus Angel?
1 or 2 Tangs? If so, any recommendations for 2 that would get along in this size tank?

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by mastersonr

6 ft. 150 gallon, just a few soft corals, 150 lbs live rock, 30 gallon sump

Current Fish:
melanurus wrasse
flame hawk
coral beauty
ocellaris clown
midas blenny
lawnmower blenny
azure damsel
blue / green chromis
pair of firefish
around 8 turbo snails and few lucky hermits that the wrasse hasn't found yet for CUC

Do I have room left for:

Genicanthus Angel? yes
1 or 2 Tangs? If so, any recommendations for 2 that would get along in this size tank? one tang, depending on species would work. Please see our recommended tank sizes for tangs to be found here,

[mastersonr]

great, thanks Steve.

[Azeya209]

I currently have a standard 4 foot 55g mixed reef tank that has been up for several months.
With 60lbs of marco dry rock. Diy overflow with mag 7 return and Octopus 110 rated for 100g tank. 20g sump
Parameters have been stable for 3 months now.

Current Inhabitants
Royal Gramma
Orchid Dottyback

CUC:
10 Dwarf Cerith Snails
5 Nerite Snails
3 Trochus Snails
2 Astrea
1 Blue Tuxedo Urchin
1 Emerald Crab
1 Red Fire Shrimp
2 Cleaner Shrimp

Corals:
Various Zoas
Torch Coral
Tree Coral
Green Ricordia
Red Monti Cap
Frogspawn
Bubble Tip




Possible additions:
Flame Angel
2 Black Ice Clown Fish
Carpenter's Flasher Wrasse
Watchman Goby/Pistol shrimp pair
Mandarin Later on. I have a 10g refugium currently farming pods.Will also probably need to find a health one eating preped foods
Bangaii Cardinal
Brittle Star

Rose Bubble Tip Anemonea

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by Azeya209

I currently have a standard 4 foot 55g mixed reef tank that has been up for several months.
With 60lbs of marco dry rock. Diy overflow with mag 7 return and Octopus 110 rated for 100g tank. 20g sump
Parameters have been stable for 3 months now.

Current Inhabitants
Royal Gramma
Orchid Dottyback

CUC:
10 Dwarf Cerith Snails
5 Nerite Snails
3 Trochus Snails
2 Astrea
1 Blue Tuxedo Urchin
1 Emerald Crab
1 Red Fire Shrimp
2 Cleaner Shrimp

Corals:
Various Zoas
Torch Coral
Tree Coral
Green Ricordia
Red Monti Cap
Frogspawn
Bubble Tip




Possible additions:
Flame Angel needs large tank unless you supply nori constantly
2 Black Ice Clown Fish
Carpenter's Flasher Wrasse needs a larger tank
Watchman Goby/Pistol shrimp pair
Mandarin Later on. I have a 10g refugium currently farming pods.Will also probably need to find a health one eating preped foods marginal; eating prepared foods is actually irrelevant since they eat constantly
Bangaii Cardinal tank raised
Brittle Star

Rose Bubble Tip Anemonea

[ChelseaRanee]

I have a 20 (ish) gallon tank. I was thinking about getting 2 Clown Fish (Probably Ocellaris ones but maybe Percula) I also like the look af the peppermint shrimp. Would these be compatible?

What other fish would be good as part of the CUC?

The LFS guy said I could have 6 clowns as well as the CUC in my tank but this sounds like a lot? How many would you recomend/what else could I have instead as I only want 2 clowns?