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Unread 03/20/2014, 10:16 PM   #9826
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How's this look for a 10G? Possibly a 20 long later. I want to plan for the 10G though and make sure it looks okay.

1 - Occ. Clown
1 - Royal Gramma
1 - Firefish

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Unread 03/20/2014, 11:40 PM   #9827
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Hello,
My reef tank has been doing well for the last few years, so now I would like to try a FOWLR. Tank will most likely be a 220 gal(72x24x30), stocked as follows:

Royal gramma x 1
Sleeper banded goby x 1
Green chromis x 5
Lyretail anthias x 4
Coral beauty angel x 1
Flame angel x 1
Lamarcks angelfish x 1
Emperor angel x 1
Red Sea raccoon butterfly x 1
Harlequin tuskfish x 1
Powder blue tang x 1

I know this tank is arguable for an emperor angel. Is it, in your opinion, just too small to be successful? Emperor angels have always been one of my favorites. I had a few other dwarf angels and butterflies on the list, but as I was typing this, it seemed to be overstocked and excessive...maybe it still is...
I know that green chromis usually kill each other off until only one remains. I am looking for "ditherfish", as Bob Fenner calls them, to cause some chaos and reduce some of the aggression of the bigger species, any suggestions if the green chromis are not the best choice? This is also why I have the lyretail anthias on the list.
This is just a plan at this point (the only fish I actually have at this point is the royal gramma and the lamarcks angel), so I am very happy to hear any advise and thoughts you would have. Thanks,
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Unread 03/21/2014, 02:19 AM   #9828
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I'm starting a 40B with a 20L sump. Vertex Omega 130 skimmer, Vortech MP10, 50lbs reef safe rock, 60lbs of live sand and a Lumentek Pro 180 LED fixture. I would like a Flame Angel, and a pair of clowns. Either Occelaris or False Percs. A Goby shrimp pair(Not really sure about this one). Well I really would like to know the max amount of Bioload is recommended for what I have. Oh, will be a mixed reef. LPS and softies only. Thanks.


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Unread 03/21/2014, 02:36 AM   #9829
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a 22 gallon tank is barely enough for a pair of A. ocellaris or A. percula.
But I see breeders breeding clowns in tiny compartments, how do they breed in such small places then?


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Unread 03/21/2014, 04:46 AM   #9830
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How's this look for a 10G? Possibly a 20 long later. I want to plan for the 10G though and make sure it looks okay.

1 - Occ. Clown
1 - Royal Gramma
1 - Firefish

Thanks.
In this sized tank, only the firefish would work (along with inverts)


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Unread 03/21/2014, 04:52 AM   #9831
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Hello,
My reef tank has been doing well for the last few years, so now I would like to try a FOWLR. Tank will most likely be a 220 gal(72x24x30), stocked as follows:

Royal gramma x 1
Sleeper banded goby x 1
Green chromis x 5
Lyretail anthias x 4
Coral beauty angel x 1
Flame angel x 1
Lamarcks angelfish x 1
Emperor angel x 1
Red Sea raccoon butterfly x 1
Harlequin tuskfish x 1
Powder blue tang x 1

I know this tank is arguable for an emperor angel. Is it, in your opinion, just too small to be successful?

I would be much happier if it were an 8 foot tank, the tank length is important for tangs and large angels

Emperor angels have always been one of my favorites. I had a few other dwarf angels and butterflies on the list, but as I was typing this, it seemed to be overstocked and excessive...maybe it still is... I would not say overstocked. I always prefer 8 foot or larger tanks with large fish as they make a tank look much smaller than it actually is
I know that green chromis usually kill each other off until only one remains. I am looking for "ditherfish", as Bob Fenner calls them, to cause some chaos and reduce some of the aggression of the bigger species, any suggestions if the green chromis are not the best choice? This is also why I have the lyretail anthias on the list. As you say, chromis will winnow down; I am unsure about the value of chromis as dither fish
This is just a plan at this point (the only fish I actually have at this point is the royal gramma and the lamarcks angel), so I am very happy to hear any advise and thoughts you would have. Thanks,
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The mix is not bad, could I talk you into an 8 foot tank?


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Unread 03/21/2014, 04:53 AM   #9832
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I'm starting a 40B with a 20L sump. Vertex Omega 130 skimmer, Vortech MP10, 50lbs reef safe rock, 60lbs of live sand and a Lumentek Pro 180 LED fixture. I would like a Flame Angel, and a pair of clowns. Either Occelaris or False Percs. A Goby shrimp pair(Not really sure about this one). Well I really would like to know the max amount of Bioload is recommended for what I have. Oh, will be a mixed reef. LPS and softies only. Thanks.
your plan is reasonable. However dwarf angels are not necessarily coral safe


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But I see breeders breeding clowns in tiny compartments, how do they breed in such small places then?
I think, I am not a good source for you of information. Please post your questions in New to the Hobby or Reef Fish. Thanks.


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Unread 03/21/2014, 09:26 AM   #9834
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Hello, I have a 24 gallon jbj nano cube with led lighting, I wanted to get a goby/shrimp combo, but I heard the pistol shrimp is aggressive towards hermits and other shrimp and crabs? I have a peppermint shrimp, an emerald crab and some hermits and snails right now. I am trying to get some nitrite issues that popped up all of the sudden under control first.


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Unread 03/21/2014, 09:29 AM   #9835
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Hello, I have a 24 gallon jbj nano cube with led lighting, I wanted to get a goby/shrimp combo, but I heard the pistol shrimp is aggressive towards hermits and other shrimp and crabs? I have a peppermint shrimp, an emerald crab and some hermits and snails right now. I am trying to get some nitrite issues that popped up all of the sudden under control first.
commensal pistol shrimp (those that associate symbiotically with shrimp gobies) should not be a problem. However hermit crabs do kill snails.


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my snails have been ok, I just read some threads that some peoples pistol shrimp had killed every crab in their tank, I was a little scared, this includes the Caribbean pistol shrimp?


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Unread 03/21/2014, 12:11 PM   #9837
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my snails have been ok, I just read some threads that some peoples pistol shrimp had killed every crab in their tank, I was a little scared, this includes the Caribbean pistol shrimp?
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Unread 03/21/2014, 01:15 PM   #9838
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The mix is not bad, could I talk you into an 8 foot tank?
Just curious, in your opinion, if I went to an 8 ft tank, would the extra room afford me another angel, such as a majestic angel, or would I have issues with the emperor and the majestic, even in that size tank? Also, do Lamarcks angels really get to 9inches or is that absolute max size? I've seen some larger Lamarcks before, but not as large as what Liveaquaria lists them as size-wise. I assume an adult Lamarcks would not do well in a 150 cube (36x36x27), even if it was the largest fish in the tank, correct? Thanks so much for the help, just trying to flesh out a reef upgrade and an eventual FOWLR. Thanks ,
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Unread 03/21/2014, 01:51 PM   #9839
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I have a 125RR that is FOWLR it currently has

1- one spot foxface
1- valentini puffer
1- yellow eye tang
1- yellow tail blue damsel
1- coral beauty angel
1- snowflake eel
1- black clown. (Other died)
1- humu humu picasso trigger

Has 30 gallon sump
CAD tia-1150 protien skimmer

Looking to see what other fish i can add to the tank.


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Unread 03/21/2014, 01:58 PM   #9840
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Just curious, in your opinion, if I went to an 8 ft tank, would the extra room afford me another angel, such as a majestic angel, or would I have issues with the emperor and the majestic, even in that size tank?

P. imperator always wants to be king of the tank. Some folks have introduced two large angels as juveniles into an 8 foot tank and had it work; others have had the Emperor all of a sudden grow up and become boss. Sort of the luck of the draw. In a six foot tank, the odds are IMO poor.

Also, do Lamarcks angels really get to 9inches or is that absolute max size? I've seen some larger Lamarcks before, but not as large as what Liveaquaria lists them as size-wise. I assume an adult Lamarcks would not do well in a 150 cube (36x36x27), even if it was the largest fish in the tank, correct?

Genicanthus do not get large, especially in captivity. They are, however, swimmers, so tank length is more important than tank volume.


Thanks so much for the help, just trying to flesh out a reef upgrade and an eventual FOWLR. Thanks ,
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Unread 03/21/2014, 02:00 PM   #9841
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I have a 125RR that is FOWLR it currently has

1- one spot foxface
1- valentini puffer
1- yellow eye tang
1- yellow tail blue damsel
1- coral beauty angel
1- snowflake eel
1- black clown. (Other died)
1- humu humu picasso trigger

Has 30 gallon sump
CAD tia-1150 protien skimmer

Looking to see what other fish i can add to the tank.
Difficult to predict as you have some aggressive fish already. I do not analyze aggressive fish community tanks. We do have an Aggressive Fish Forum.


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Unread 03/21/2014, 02:30 PM   #9842
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Hello i have a 3 foot by 2 foot by 2 foot tank. 75 gallon with 10 gallon sump. Skimmer working with a good size clean up crew working hard.

I currently have a pair of percula clowns and im considering the following fish for the future. Let me know your thoughts.

1 yellow tang
1 kole tang
1 coral beauty angel
1 royal gramma
1 mandarin dragonette
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Hello i have a 3 foot by 2 foot by 2 foot tank. 75 gallon with 10 gallon sump. Skimmer working with a good size clean up crew working hard.

I currently have a pair of percula clowns and im considering the following fish for the future. Let me know your thoughts.

1 yellow tang In a 75 gallon tank, only one tang, the kole would be fine, the yellow needs a larger tank
1 kole tang
1 coral beauty angel
1 royal gramma
1 mandarin dragonette after 9 months maturity
3 anthias a group of anthias needs a larger tank, one would be fine. However, note that anthias need more than one feeding per day
3 chromis will become one over time




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The tank will be a 29 gallon FOWLR and a sump. I know it impossible to keep all these fish/invertebrates in my small aquarium so I was wondering which ones could be kept
Bicolor Blenny
Royal Gramma Basslet
3 Pajama Cardinal Fish?
a pair of cleaners or fire shrimp
Fire fish
and maybe some Feather Dusters?

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The tank will be a 29 gallon FOWLR and a sump. I know it impossible to keep all these fish/invertebrates in my small aquarium so I was wondering which ones could be kept
Bicolor Blenny
Royal Gramma Basslet
3 Pajama Cardinal Fish?
a pair of cleaners or fire shrimp
Fire fish introduce first
and maybe some Feather Dusters?

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actually that is a pretty good list.


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So how many can I keep in my aquarium?


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Other than chromis who will eventually kill each other is there another type of fish that would suit my tank i could have 3 or 4 of that will group together.

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So how many can I keep in my aquarium?
Sorry, that is an unanswerable question. You are pretty much at the limit now.


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Other than chromis who will eventually kill each other is there another type of fish that would suit my tank i could have 3 or 4 of that will group together.

Thanx for you help

Appreciated greatly
Not really. Tank size limits what is possible.


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steve, i have begun preparing a stocking list for my 75g. you already answered my question about the possibility of 2 longnosed hawkfish as not a good idea. can i keep a flamehawk with the longnosed?

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