Skimmer off? ATi, ASM,EURO, H&S, Octopus - Page 4

UCanDoIt · 01/04/2007, 12:51 PM

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Originally posted by ken6217
So what is the bottom line here? Do I have to sell my H&S A150?
Ken

A picture is worth a thousands words
http://upload.pbase.com/ken6217/image/72509795

ken6217 · 01/04/2007, 01:13 PM

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Originally posted by UCanDoIt
A picture is worth a thousands words
http://upload.pbase.com/ken6217/image/72509795

Damn, where can I get me one of these?
Ken

ridetheducati · 01/04/2007, 01:46 PM

Ken,

Is that not your skimmer?

ken6217 · 01/04/2007, 01:54 PM

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Originally posted by ridetheducati
Ken,

Is that not your skimmer?

Of course. It was my wonderful sense of humor.

Hey, do u have a Duc? I used to have a 916. unfortunately I went to the dark side and got a HD Electra Glide (but lots of engine work).
Ken

mavgi · 01/04/2007, 04:03 PM

yes , i am agree with UCANDOIT picture are worth a thousands words and i have a lot of them .

Here is 8 hour production of skimmate on my BM250

and i have some video to

here it's short one
(from the past) on a test that i make , you can see the thick foam that this MONSTER can make when i fire it back after cleaning the cup, and this was very fast

ridetheducati · 01/04/2007, 07:13 PM

I sold my 748 last year. I put less than 500 miles on it, so the wife said it had to go. Plus I wanted to put the Lexus back in the garage.

Loved that bike in the corners.

I will reciprocate...

[IMG]http://i12.*******.com/2v1rs54.jpg[/IMG]

ken6217 · 01/04/2007, 09:14 PM

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Originally posted by ridetheducati
I sold my 748 last year. I put less than 500 miles on it, so the wife said it had to go. Plus I wanted to put the Lexus back in the garage.

Loved that bike in the corners.

I will reciprocate...

[IMG]http://i12.*******.com/2v1rs54.jpg[/IMG]

OK, now you through down the gauntlet when you went with the Lexus. LOl

Here's my baby (M3)
http://www.pbase.com/ken6217/image/71344952
http://www.pbase.com/ken6217/image/71344945
Ken

ken6217 · 01/04/2007, 09:16 PM

Mavgi,
I think maybe you just have a dirty tank. What are your nitrates? Mine are less than 1ppm using Lamotte. I do 5% water change a week.
Ken

ridetheducati · 01/04/2007, 09:58 PM

OT, a little

Ken,

The M3 is nice and clean, did you do any engine work? I also have an 325 (E46). When I want to feel the road and want that tight feel I drive the E46, and when I want to float and put the seat back a little I drive the G3.

[IMG]http://i3.*******.com/34s2xag.jpg[/IMG]

mavgi · 01/05/2007, 12:34 AM

I never know that skimmer have connection to cars

ken6217 :

i use with salfiert and elos test kit (not to bad)

i keep my nitrate at 5ppm no less then that i can keep it on 0.00 but IMO it's not good .

po4 0.00 (on those 2 test kit)

i do 10-15% water change every week .

my water in the tank can stay crystal clear even without skiming one week

but i feed my fish 2-3 time a day and very heavy and this is show how the skimmer perform very well.

my fish have full color and look fat .

one more thing maybe you right and my tank dirty but you can look on the BUBBLE MASTER thread and see how this skimmer perform to be honest do you think all those tank dirty to .....

MammothReefer · 01/05/2007, 01:45 AM

I feed 2-3 times a day to, have almost 40 fish..and am just running a g3..

Outside of the guk under the sand.. my tank is pretty darn clean..and I stopped running ozone about a month ago (tanks only been up for 3).

So if i'm getting results this decent..with a g3 I reallly can't wait until I put a proper sized skimmer on.. Granted i run my g3 Verrrry wet.. I empty it between once and twice a day...and I do 40 gallon water changes every week.

Once I do get the better skimmer... I'm really gonna start going SPS nutso

ken6217 · 01/05/2007, 07:57 AM

[QUOTE]Originally posted by mavgi
[B]I never know that skimmer have connection to cars

Mavgi,
Sure they do. Both are obcessions.

Obviously I do not know your tank and I'm sure it is nice. I just don't see how an approriately rated skimmer can pull that much stuff out of the water every 8 hours. There has to be something in it to get pulled out, and that's a lot.

Regarding the Bubble Master, I know a skimmer distributer that has tested them. Their opinion is that they do work well but the quality varies from unit to unit. Hopefully this will be corrected.
Ken

ken6217 · 01/05/2007, 08:07 AM

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Originally posted by ridetheducati
OT, a little

Ken,

The M3 is nice and clean, did you do any engine work? I also have an 325 (E46). When I want to feel the road and want that tight feel I drive the E46, and when I want to float and put the seat back a little I drive the G3.

[IMG]http://i3.*******.com/34s2xag.jpg[/IMG]

I really keep it clean and garaged. It has never been to a car wash. No surface scratches at all. I wash it myself or I have it done by hand where I park my car to take the train into Manhattan for work. I didn't do any engine or exhaust work (even though I would love to) as I already learned that at this car price level, you get your butt kicked when you want to sell it or trade it in.

Your cars are nice. By the way, what skimmer do you have?
Ken

ridetheducati · 01/05/2007, 11:07 AM

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Your cars are nice. By the way, what skimmer do you have?
Ken

H&S A250 2x1260

32" tall with 10" body.

[IMG]http://i16.*******.com/3yegkcw.jpg[/IMG]

RichConley · 01/05/2007, 12:14 PM

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Originally posted by ridetheducati
Look at it this way. All the skimmers $1000 and above are very good (top tier).

When was the last time you saw a thread where someone was downgrading their BK, H&S, or Deltec for middle or bottom tier?

I sold my deltec and bought an octopus. Got $300 back, and got a better skimmer.

FWIW, with meshwheels, that 3 pump octopus will pull more air than a dart needlewheel skimmer. I'm getting almost 70 scfh from my OTP3000 for about 40-50 watts.

ridetheducati · 01/05/2007, 01:03 PM

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Originally posted by RichConley
I sold my deltec and bought an octopus. Got $300 back, and got a better skimmer.

Sure you did. Time will tell.

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FWIW, with meshwheels, that 3 pump octopus will pull more air than a dart needlewheel skimmer. I'm getting almost 70 scfh from my OTP3000 for about 40-50 watts.

35 LPH, not bad. Is that 35 LPH per pump, or total (10 LPH per pump)?

ycnibrc · 01/05/2007, 02:06 PM

all skimmer have similar design the only different is the pump and the technology of the needle wheel. H&S,Deltec use germany made pump ehiem,aquabee vs asm,euro reef,octopus use sedra pump made in USA. Now you can compare a 300 horse ford engine to a 300 horse BMW or Mercedes engine which one will perform better?

RichConley · 01/05/2007, 02:19 PM

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Originally posted by ridetheducati
[B]Sure you did. Time will tell.

35 LPH, not bad. Is that 35 LPH per pump, or total (10 LPH per pump)?

Time wont tell, its pretty damn obvious right now. Its an 8" skimmer that pulls a huge amount of air, vs a dinky 5" skimmer that pulls 16scfh at twice the cost. Theres no comparison.

Its one pump. Single OTP 3000 running Enkamat.

RichConley · 01/05/2007, 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ycnibrc
all skimmer have similar design the only different is the pump and the technology of the needle wheel. H&S,Deltec use germany made pump ehiem,aquabee vs asm,euro reef,octopus use sedra pump made in USA. Now you can compare a 300 horse ford engine to a 300 horse BMW or Mercedes engine which one will perform better?

The Octopus skimmers do not use Sedras. They use OEM oceanrunner pumps.

ken6217 · 01/05/2007, 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ycnibrc
all skimmer have similar design the only different is the pump and the technology of the needle wheel. H&S,Deltec use germany made pump ehiem,aquabee vs asm,euro reef,octopus use sedra pump made in USA. Now you can compare a 300 horse ford engine to a 300 horse BMW or Mercedes engine which one will perform better?

Sadly to say, the Ford (USA) engine will put out more torque than the German engines. I say sadly since I have a German car. Take a look at a 500 hp BMW M5 versus a Corvette Z06 or a Ford Shelby, you get over 500 ft lbs of torque vesus about 350 for the BMW.
Ken

F35-Joint Strike Fighter · 01/05/2007, 02:30 PM

Damn, I go BK hahhahahahha. J/K.

debating on skimmers never ended.

mavgi · 01/05/2007, 02:31 PM

this is what i got when i measure form the silencer (the flow meter can read more then that but it's pull more) when i measure each pump separate i can get about 25LPM

mavgi · 01/05/2007, 02:34 PM

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Originally posted by F18-Hornet
debating on skimmers never ended.

that is true .

ridetheducati · 01/05/2007, 03:39 PM

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Originally posted by F18-Hornet
Damn, I go BK hahhahahahha. J/K.

debating on skimmers never ended.

I dont see many BK, H&S and Deltec owners whining.

ridetheducati · 01/05/2007, 03:43 PM

If you use the best, there is less talking or looking for acceptance.

01/04/2007, 01:46 PM	#78
ridetheducati 20 and Over Club Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Bowie, MD Posts: 2,968	Ken, Is that not your skimmer? __________________ "Send more paramedics" Current Tank Info: 300g DD, SPS dominated, Apex, Tunze 6125s, ATB 1050, 400w MH, and Geo 618 Ca Reactor

01/04/2007, 07:13 PM	#81
ridetheducati 20 and Over Club Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Bowie, MD Posts: 2,968	I sold my 748 last year. I put less than 500 miles on it, so the wife said it had to go. Plus I wanted to put the Lexus back in the garage. Loved that bike in the corners. I will reciprocate... [IMG]http://i12.*******.com/2v1rs54.jpg[/IMG] __________________ "Send more paramedics" Current Tank Info: 300g DD, SPS dominated, Apex, Tunze 6125s, ATB 1050, 400w MH, and Geo 618 Ca Reactor

01/04/2007, 09:58 PM	#84
ridetheducati 20 and Over Club Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Bowie, MD Posts: 2,968	OT, a little Ken, The M3 is nice and clean, did you do any engine work? I also have an 325 (E46). When I want to feel the road and want that tight feel I drive the E46, and when I want to float and put the seat back a little I drive the G3. [IMG]http://i3.*******.com/34s2xag.jpg[/IMG] __________________ "Send more paramedics" Current Tank Info: 300g DD, SPS dominated, Apex, Tunze 6125s, ATB 1050, 400w MH, and Geo 618 Ca Reactor

01/05/2007, 12:34 AM	#85
mavgi Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: queens n.y Posts: 2,209	I never know that skimmer have connection to cars ken6217 : i use with salfiert and elos test kit (not to bad) i keep my nitrate at 5ppm no less then that i can keep it on 0.00 but IMO it's not good . po4 0.00 (on those 2 test kit) i do 10-15% water change every week . my water in the tank can stay crystal clear even without skiming one week but i feed my fish 2-3 time a day and very heavy and this is show how the skimmer perform very well. my fish have full color and look fat . one more thing maybe you right and my tank dirty but you can look on the BUBBLE MASTER thread and see how this skimmer perform to be honest do you think all those tank dirty to ..... Last edited by mavgi; 01/05/2007 at 01:12 AM.

01/05/2007, 01:45 AM	#86
MammothReefer Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Mammoth Lakes, CA Posts: 3,442	I feed 2-3 times a day to, have almost 40 fish..and am just running a g3.. Outside of the guk under the sand.. my tank is pretty darn clean..and I stopped running ozone about a month ago (tanks only been up for 3). So if i'm getting results this decent..with a g3 I reallly can't wait until I put a proper sized skimmer on.. Granted i run my g3 Verrrry wet.. I empty it between once and twice a day...and I do 40 gallon water changes every week. Once I do get the better skimmer... I'm really gonna start going SPS nutso __________________ Reefin @ 8298' Current Tank Info: 105 Peninsula

01/04/2007, 04:03 PM	#80
mavgi Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: queens n.y Posts: 2,209	yes , i am agree with UCANDOIT picture are worth a thousands words and i have a lot of them . Here is 8 hour production of skimmate on my BM250 and i have some video to here it's short one (from the past) on a test that i make , you can see the thick foam that this MONSTER can make when i fire it back after cleaning the cup, and this was very fast

01/04/2007, 09:16 PM	#83
ken6217 Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: NJ Posts: 2,179	Mavgi, I think maybe you just have a dirty tank. What are your nitrates? Mine are less than 1ppm using Lamotte. I do 5% water change a week. Ken

01/05/2007, 07:57 AM	#87
ken6217 Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: NJ Posts: 2,179	[QUOTE]Originally posted by mavgi [B]I never know that skimmer have connection to cars Mavgi, Sure they do. Both are obcessions. Obviously I do not know your tank and I'm sure it is nice. I just don't see how an approriately rated skimmer can pull that much stuff out of the water every 8 hours. There has to be something in it to get pulled out, and that's a lot. Regarding the Bubble Master, I know a skimmer distributer that has tested them. Their opinion is that they do work well but the quality varies from unit to unit. Hopefully this will be corrected. Ken

01/05/2007, 02:06 PM	#92
ycnibrc STAG HORN DOMINATE REEF Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Irvine, California Posts: 3,348	all skimmer have similar design the only different is the pump and the technology of the needle wheel. H&S,Deltec use germany made pump ehiem,aquabee vs asm,euro reef,octopus use sedra pump made in USA. Now you can compare a 300 horse ford engine to a 300 horse BMW or Mercedes engine which one will perform better? __________________ SDR STAGHORN DOMINATE REEF Feature Reef of November 2019 GHL TOTM FEB 2020 ABC corals Current Tank Info: 360g Peninsula sps

01/05/2007, 02:30 PM	#96
F35-Joint Strike Fighter Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Huntington Beach, CA Posts: 3,188	Damn, I go BK hahhahahahha. J/K. debating on skimmers never ended. __________________ once rookie, always is rookie Current Tank Info: tankless

01/05/2007, 02:31 PM	#97
mavgi Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: queens n.y Posts: 2,209	this is what i got when i measure form the silencer (the flow meter can read more then that but it's pull more) when i measure each pump separate i can get about 25LPM

01/05/2007, 03:43 PM	#100
ridetheducati 20 and Over Club Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Bowie, MD Posts: 2,968	If you use the best, there is less talking or looking for acceptance. __________________ "Send more paramedics" Current Tank Info: 300g DD, SPS dominated, Apex, Tunze 6125s, ATB 1050, 400w MH, and Geo 618 Ca Reactor