Do I have too many fish? - Page 4

lougotzz · 03/12/2010, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by phurst

LOL. I'm just sitting back watching the truly bizarre turn this thread has taken

I know this thread has gotten so off topic LOL.

Ok, it can't be 100% natural, but the tank does have natural occurances in it, i.e clown fish hosting in an anemone. It's not like a fish tank with a treasure chest in it. That's all I meant.

BrooksReef · 03/12/2010, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by ReefJerk

Just throw a Naso and a Vlamingi in there while you're at it. You'll upgrade soon, so may as well. And, large Angels are so pretty. Put a Majestic, Blue-Ring and a Queenie in there... All of you bashing PHurst know good and well there is no way that noob should have those fish in a tank that small. Come on. And, that Live Aquaria "buy this fish from us no matter what size tank you have" link is useless.

I agree with the point you're trying to make, however, I believe going about saying it in a different way would be much more appropriate.

The fact that he is making a thread shows that he has some amount of concern for what he has in his tank. At this point, I think the Hippo Tang is fine in it's current environment. I'm not saying you should throw a 1" Tang into a 50g and let it grow to 8" and not remove it or upgrade, but I am saying that putting a Tang that is smaller into a 75g while it is SMALL, with the intentions to upgrade before it outgrows it's environment is OK.

If he says he is going to upgrade, I believe him. He has good intentions, hence the creation of this thread. He is getting advice, which, if I'm not mistaken, is the purpose of ReefCentral.

Giving advice and information on personal experience, and doing it respectfully is the only way this hobby will grow. There ARE different opinions on tank size for Tangs, and sharing information will help facts to form...

Anyways, a 125g should be a great size tank for your Hippo Tang. However, if it gets too big before you're able to upgrade, it would be greatly beneficial to give it to a friend with a larger tank that can keep it permanently or hold it until you're all settled in with your larger tank.

Mattik · 03/12/2010, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by BrooksReef

..... however, I believe going about saying it in a different way would be much more appropriate.

.........

Giving advice and information on personal experience, and doing it respectfully is the only way this hobby will grow. There ARE different opinions on tank size for Tangs, and sharing information will help facts to form...

Thank you for a rational AND respectful response. There are others who have done the same in this thread, so thank you to all.

One thing I am finding painfully frustrating is not getting a straight, respectful response to my posts on reef central.

I wouldn't be posting if I didn't care, so the last thing I need is an "I'm better than you" response. I actually got a response earlier today, philisophizing about dogs and tails.....what the bloody h!## does that have to do with reef keeping?

It is people like Brooksreef that make this forum worth visiting.

And, I couldn't agree more. Do the best you can with what you have. Enjoy your fish/corals, but please be aware of when your fish outgrow your tank and take action to keep them healthy.

Mattik · 03/12/2010, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by robs.mark

I couldnt agree with you more. I have been using this site for a couple of years now, and, have come across many many threads regarding tang/tank sizes. Now, im not saying its great to keep a tang in a 40g breeder, i think there are a lot of people out there who try to lay down the tang law without opening their eyes. Its all good and well to say 'no, no, no, that yellow tang simply must be in a 90g+ tank'. But some times its not quiet as simple as that. You could have a 200g tank with 500lbs of LR in it, will the fish have any more swimming room than if it were in a 55? probably not. I also think that there are far to many hobby newcomers with very little experience who try to grill people about tangs, is this too get a +1 and feel like a pro? i really dont know sometimes! Then on the other end of the scale there are advanced aquarists who have probably been reefing for 10 years + who think that just because your experienced enough to control amazing parameters with a huge bio-load in a small tank, its okay to do so. What amazes me about this the most is, the 'self proclaimed tang police praise them for it'! A recent example of this could be October's TOTM. Here we have an unquestionably beautiful SPS tank, packed to the rafters with LR, which holds a total volume of 80g of water. Fish list consisting of: A hippo TANG, and powder blue TANG, a regal angel, 3 two spot basslets, 9 red fin anthias, 10 chromis, a fairy wrasse, along with a few goby's. Now in the TOTM threat for that month im pretty sure i saw one or two of them shaking his hand?? Now im not saying that its right or wrong, just trying to get a point across. Its not always black and white. While tank size is important (I cry inside when i see some of these youtube clips with multiple fish in smaller systems) many other factors are also involved.

Just my 2c.

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Originally Posted by robow

nailed it. getting a plus one does make you feel good.(I got my first +1 today)

+1 to robow, robs.mark and Brooksreef (sorry for the voices or reason that I have missed)

Now you can all preach the word of reason to the quire....and the MUST listen!!!

Mikef973 · 03/12/2010, 09:17 PM

Right now your fine as long as you do your regular water changes and use high quality water purification yielding little to no nitrates/ammonia. Down the road when your tangs grow, just keep monitoring your levels and they will give you the answer to your question.

Mattik · 03/12/2010, 09:18 PM

oleg <--- my son (3) wanted to say hi....he can spell a couple more words too, but I thought "oleg, mama, papa, baba, cat, dog, etc" may not be that meaningful ;-)

BrooksReef · 03/13/2010, 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Mattik

Thank you for a rational AND respectful response. There are others who have done the same in this thread, so thank you to all.

One thing I am finding painfully frustrating is not getting a straight, respectful response to my posts on reef central.

I wouldn't be posting if I didn't care, so the last thing I need is an "I'm better than you" response. I actually got a response earlier today, philisophizing about dogs and tails.....what the bloody h!## does that have to do with reef keeping?

It is people like Brooksreef that make this forum worth visiting.

And, I couldn't agree more. Do the best you can with what you have. Enjoy your fish/corals, but please be aware of when your fish outgrow your tank and take action to keep them healthy.

Thanks Matt. I agree. Nobody asks for sarcastic answers to their problems, and they shouldn't get them.

03/12/2010, 09:17 PM	#80
Mikef973 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 3	Right now your fine as long as you do your regular water changes and use high quality water purification yielding little to no nitrates/ammonia. Down the road when your tangs grow, just keep monitoring your levels and they will give you the answer to your question.

03/12/2010, 09:18 PM	#81
Mattik Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 281	oleg <--- my son (3) wanted to say hi....he can spell a couple more words too, but I thought "oleg, mama, papa, baba, cat, dog, etc" may not be that meaningful ;-)