Why do people still cram the fish in!!! - Page 4

rayn · 02/15/2011, 07:29 PM

And that is why people do it. Walk in there, see that, think ' these guys wouldn't do anyting to harm their fish' , and then try to copy it.

Megatrev62 · 02/15/2011, 07:34 PM

And who's to blame? LFS is for sure and some big box stores have to sell if that's what the customer wants. Just shameful really and it really hurts this hobby.

fish77 · 02/15/2011, 07:39 PM

It is true that the LFS's hurt the hobby, but what about the hobbyists? sure we are new at one point, but at some point we need to research and know better,and the ones that don't,well don't last in the hobby very long (IMO)

Megatrev62 · 02/15/2011, 08:16 PM

I hear ya, "which came first the chicken or the egg".

Sk8r · 02/15/2011, 11:59 PM

One of the things that still haunts me is walking into one of the big-box stores and seeing a jack over a foot long in a tank in which he literally could not turn around. Cruel. But some distributor shipped that fish knowing that this store has small display tanks. I have met the fish manager there, who is a conscientious man just trying to do the best he can for these fish within the limits of what they let him do---while keeping his job and supporting his family. But I have a feeling that scenario did not end well, and I know that guy would have tried everything he could to help that poor creature---but what do you do, when you've been shipped a fish only the Seattle Aquarium could deal with? You just shudder, is what, and swear at people who just should have turned that fish back into the ocean.

duncantse · 02/16/2011, 12:01 AM

I think you guys should read this

http://www.wetwebmedia.com/ca/volume.../Angelfish.htm

He kept 66 tangs/angelfish/butterfly fish in a 250gallon tank.

stangd1909 · 02/16/2011, 01:37 AM

Wow...that's insane.

Angel*Fish · 02/16/2011, 09:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duncantse

I think you guys should read this

http://www.wetwebmedia.com/ca/volume.../Angelfish.htm

He kept 66 tangs/angelfish/butterfly fish in a 250gallon tank.

he maintained sg at 1.011- 1.012!

Quote:

method of disease prevention simply involves maintaining the aquarium at a lower salinity than normal -- in this case, 15 ppt (specific gravity = 1.011-1.012)

Sk8r · 02/16/2011, 09:38 AM

There is a fish equivalent of the Crazy Cat Lady, you know, the ones you see on the news, with the pictures you don't like to look at. And the Crazy Cat Lady will be standing on the curb bawling about her babies and what good care she takes of all 300 of them.

duncantse · 02/16/2011, 09:39 AM

Yah pretty crazy. specific gravity at 1.011. And all the fish he bought only got acclimated for max 20 minutes.

02/15/2011, 07:29 PM	#76
rayn Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Pekin, Il Posts: 2,864	And that is why people do it. Walk in there, see that, think ' these guys wouldn't do anyting to harm their fish' , and then try to copy it. __________________ Currently changing, stay tuned for new details...

02/15/2011, 07:39 PM	#78
fish77 Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 335	It is true that the LFS's hurt the hobby, but what about the hobbyists? sure we are new at one point, but at some point we need to research and know better,and the ones that don't,well don't last in the hobby very long (IMO) __________________ Addicted.... Current Tank Info: 100 gallon reef in the works

02/15/2011, 11:59 PM	#80
Sk8r RC Mod Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Spokane WA Posts: 34,628 Blog Entries: 55	One of the things that still haunts me is walking into one of the big-box stores and seeing a jack over a foot long in a tank in which he literally could not turn around. Cruel. But some distributor shipped that fish knowing that this store has small display tanks. I have met the fish manager there, who is a conscientious man just trying to do the best he can for these fish within the limits of what they let him do---while keeping his job and supporting his family. But I have a feeling that scenario did not end well, and I know that guy would have tried everything he could to help that poor creature---but what do you do, when you've been shipped a fish only the Seattle Aquarium could deal with? You just shudder, is what, and swear at people who just should have turned that fish back into the ocean. __________________ Sk8r Salinity 1.024-6; alkalinity 8.3-9.3 on KH scale; calcium 420; magnesium 1300, temp 78-80, nitrate .2. Ammonia 0. No filters: lps tank. Alk and cal won't rise if mg is low. Current Tank Info: 105g AquaVim wedge, yellow tang, sailfin blenny,royal gramma, ocellaris clown pair, yellow watchman, 100 microceriths, 25 tiny hermits, a 4" conch, 1" nassarius, recovering from 2 year hiatus with daily water change of 10%.

02/16/2011, 01:37 AM	#82
stangd1909 GO NOLES! Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Sarasota, FL Posts: 622	Wow...that's insane. __________________ GO NOLES! 300 GALLON FOWLR BUILD IN PROGRESS

02/16/2011, 09:38 AM	#84
Sk8r RC Mod Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Spokane WA Posts: 34,628 Blog Entries: 55	There is a fish equivalent of the Crazy Cat Lady, you know, the ones you see on the news, with the pictures you don't like to look at. And the Crazy Cat Lady will be standing on the curb bawling about her babies and what good care she takes of all 300 of them. __________________ Sk8r Salinity 1.024-6; alkalinity 8.3-9.3 on KH scale; calcium 420; magnesium 1300, temp 78-80, nitrate .2. Ammonia 0. No filters: lps tank. Alk and cal won't rise if mg is low. Current Tank Info: 105g AquaVim wedge, yellow tang, sailfin blenny,royal gramma, ocellaris clown pair, yellow watchman, 100 microceriths, 25 tiny hermits, a 4" conch, 1" nassarius, recovering from 2 year hiatus with daily water change of 10%.

02/15/2011, 07:34 PM	#77
Megatrev62 Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: ST.John's Newfoundland Canada Posts: 1,712	And who's to blame? LFS is for sure and some big box stores have to sell if that's what the customer wants. Just shameful really and it really hurts this hobby.

02/15/2011, 08:16 PM	#79
Megatrev62 Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: ST.John's Newfoundland Canada Posts: 1,712	I hear ya, "which came first the chicken or the egg".

02/16/2011, 12:01 AM	#81
duncantse Fish Advisor Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 1,604	I think you guys should read this http://www.wetwebmedia.com/ca/volume.../Angelfish.htm He kept 66 tangs/angelfish/butterfly fish in a 250gallon tank.

02/16/2011, 09:39 AM	#85
duncantse Fish Advisor Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 1,604	Yah pretty crazy. specific gravity at 1.011. And all the fish he bought only got acclimated for max 20 minutes.

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