My new Mazarra-P arrived! - Page 4

HenHouse · 09/15/2011, 01:37 PM

I have to ask a question since you are so good at answering.

I am purchasing a 75 gallon 48" long, could I get aways with 2 modules for a mixed reef? I hate that the tank has a center brace otherwise I would probably get 3. But anyways could I get away with 2?

Your tank looks beautiful. I hope to be on par with it one day, no pun intended.

HenHouse · 09/15/2011, 01:51 PM

Oh and one more question...

Does the units come with the different size optics and you yourself can interchange and play with or do you have to order with certain optics and you are stuck with them?

Thanks agian.

TucanSam007 · 09/15/2011, 01:53 PM

I think they arrive with 70 degree optics but u can swap out with 100s or 40's that come with.

HenHouse · 09/15/2011, 03:23 PM

Thanks that is very helpful.

Do you think 2 would work for a 75 gallon 48" tank wanting a mixed reef? I just feel that 4 would be overkill with the center bracket.

Acrotrdco · 09/15/2011, 09:16 PM

Two modules maybe pushing it, you could try it with the 100 degree optics, it's probably visually bright enough to your eyes with 2 modules, but I'm worried if it's bright enough for all your corals.

On the bright side, the Mazarra's are modular, get 2 first, try it out, if you think it's just not bright enough, add a 3rd later. It's that simple.

Beenalongtime79 · 09/15/2011, 09:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HenHouse

Thanks that is very helpful.

Do you think 2 would work for a 75 gallon 48" tank wanting a mixed reef? I just feel that 4 would be overkill with the center bracket.

I think you will be much happier w/ 3 modules than 2 on a 4 foot tank. Just the way I feel w/ my tank being 4 feet. I think 2 would be stretching yourself pretty thin.

Cheers,
John

Reef2012 · 09/15/2011, 09:32 PM

For a 60" tank would you do 5 or 6 modules?

Reef2012 · 09/15/2011, 09:33 PM

Give us an update too!! How are you corals reacting to the new lights?!?! give us more video and picture!!!

langtudatinh01 · 09/15/2011, 09:40 PM

i have a standard 40B. do you think 2 modules will work? i want to keep mix reef of sps and lps. Thanks.

mu_2176 · 09/16/2011, 12:14 AM

Hey mate,

Just wondering do you have any updates on the vid?
no rush

cheers
Jono

redliner · 09/16/2011, 04:53 AM

Looks awesome mate. Keeping my eyes on the progress.

redbaronred · 09/17/2011, 06:26 AM

Pal, I decided to buy a mazarra 3 modules. My house is at new area of city and we have electric failures some times. I read something about mazarra's reset problem when you have electrict failures. Does it reset it self with every electric faillure.

TucanSam007 · 09/17/2011, 10:12 PM

I think they fixed that problem with the power outage reset

Acrotrdco · 09/18/2011, 08:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reef2012

For a 60" tank would you do 5 or 6 modules?

I'd say 5.

Quote:

Originally Posted by langtudatinh01

i have a standard 40B. do you think 2 modules will work? i want to keep mix reef of sps and lps. Thanks.

Yeah 2 would be enough for a 40gal.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reef2012

Give us an update too!! How are you corals reacting to the new lights?!?! give us more video and picture!!!

Quote:

Originally Posted by mu_2176

Hey mate,

Just wondering do you have any updates on the vid?
no rush

cheers
Jono

I was going to do another video over the weekend but got distracted, I'll try to make it this weekend!

Quote:

Originally Posted by redliner

Looks awesome mate. Keeping my eyes on the progress.

Thanks!

Quote:

Originally Posted by redbaronred

Pal, I decided to buy a mazarra 3 modules. My house is at new area of city and we have electric failures some times. I read something about mazarra's reset problem when you have electrict failures. Does it reset it self with every electric faillure.

Quote:

Originally Posted by TucanSam007

I think they fixed that problem with the power outage reset

Yeah they've fixed it already, I've tested it myself by disconnecting power and reconnecting it, they all pair up automatically.

roberto_lopes · 09/18/2011, 09:04 PM

Those PAR measures was done with 70 degree optics?

TucanSam007 · 09/18/2011, 09:13 PM

Hey acro, I wanted to ask you since I am a complete newb with led's. I'll be getting my maxspect mazarra in the mail tomorrow. Whats a good starting intensity and over what time frame should I gradually increase? From what i've red on the forums start out at 15-20% and gradually increase by 2-4% weekly and make observations/adjustments as needed. My current T5 lighting would be considered low par compared to the amount of par these new led's put out so I really need to take it slow. Any recommendations to initial intensity and timing durations would be very helpful!

Acrotrdco · 09/19/2011, 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by roberto_lopes

Those PAR measures was done with 70 degree optics?

The middle two modules I was using 40 degree optics, the outer two are 70 degrees.

Quote:

Originally Posted by TucanSam007

Hey acro, I wanted to ask you since I am a complete newb with led's. I'll be getting my maxspect mazarra in the mail tomorrow. Whats a good starting intensity and over what time frame should I gradually increase? From what i've red on the forums start out at 15-20% and gradually increase by 2-4% weekly and make observations/adjustments as needed. My current T5 lighting would be considered low par compared to the amount of par these new led's put out so I really need to take it slow. Any recommendations to initial intensity and timing durations would be very helpful!

I think you can run 100% intensity for 2-3 hours a day, then the rest of the day slowly ramping up and down to mimic the photo-period in the ocean. Then slowly you can increase the 100% intensity time from 2-3 hours to a maximum of 5 hours (4-5 would be ideal).

roberto_lopes · 09/19/2011, 09:07 PM

Hummm are you really have sure about it? I'm asking because my AI SOLs have so much more PAR with 70 degrees than yours 40's !

I was expecting that the Mazarra would have more PAR since it uses the new Cree XM-L's

But it's the nicest fixture I have ever saw. congratulations.

Acrotrdco · 09/21/2011, 12:32 AM

AI Sol's are running 45 degree optics by default as far as I know.

Putawaywet · 09/21/2011, 01:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Acrotrdco

AI Sol's are running 45 degree optics by default as far as I know.

Now you're confuising me. I thought AI SOL's are running a mix of 4x 70's and 4x 40's with the option to purchase 4 additional 70 degree lenses directly from AI.

roberto_lopes · 09/21/2011, 06:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Acrotrdco

AI Sol's are running 45 degree optics by default as far as I know.

By default AI SOl's have 4 x 40 degree lenses on the center and 4 x 70 degree lenses on the sides.

I have buyed extra 70 degree lenses for all my modules so my PAR measures are made with FULL 70 degree optics and even with it, I have 500+ PAR at 24" deep.

With the default lenses, the PAR at 24" goes with more than 600PAR but, the distribution is not that good.

With the 70's I have the same light distribution as a T5, with more PAR than virtually any 250MH.

Beenalongtime79 · 09/21/2011, 11:53 AM

Unless, you are comparing results w/ the same PAR meter, I think it is hard to make that comparison of PAR numbers.

Cheers,
John

roberto_lopes · 09/21/2011, 12:35 PM

Well

The PAR meter IS the same. An Apogee MQ200.

AND

His tank has 20" of height with 17" of water column. Mine have 24" of height with 23.5" of water column.

So I'm not saying that their fixture is worse, I'm just expressing my disappointment since so many things was told about this new fixture.

pmrossetti · 09/21/2011, 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by roberto_lopes

Well

The PAR meter IS the same. An Apogee MQ200.

AND

His tank has 20" of height with 17" of water column. Mine have 24" of height with 23.5" of water column.

So I'm not saying that their fixture is worse, I'm just expressing my disappointment since so many things was told about this new fixture.

Hi Roberto,
do you think it matters to the par that you are running a double row of lights to his one row?

would you have the same par with one row of AIs?
just wondering?

roberto_lopes · 09/21/2011, 12:50 PM

Yes, respecting the light distribution, like everybody else, we have that PAR even with just ONE fixture.

09/15/2011, 09:40 PM	#84
langtudatinh01 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Fairbanks, Alaska Posts: 399	i have a standard 40B. do you think 2 modules will work? i want to keep mix reef of sps and lps. Thanks. __________________ Tuanito Tranito Current Tank Info: my little heaven: 40 Breeder nano reeftank (1 year old-refugium/sump 20 gallons)

09/17/2011, 06:26 AM	#87
redbaronred Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Turkey Posts: 22	Pal, I decided to buy a mazarra 3 modules. My house is at new area of city and we have electric failures some times. I read something about mazarra's reset problem when you have electrict failures. Does it reset it self with every electric faillure. __________________ Reef Geek Current Tank Info: 120x65x50h cm, BK 180 mini, MP40ES, Illumagic 90C Led, Bubble Magus T01-T02

09/18/2011, 09:04 PM	#90
roberto_lopes Registered Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Brazil Posts: 332	Those PAR measures was done with 70 degree optics? __________________ 720gal acrylic SPS dominant FULL LEDs 19 AI Hydra52, BBK Supermarin 300 RDIII skimmer. Visit my New Tank 2014: http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?p=22557157

09/19/2011, 09:07 PM	#93
roberto_lopes Registered Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Brazil Posts: 332	Hummm are you really have sure about it? I'm asking because my AI SOLs have so much more PAR with 70 degrees than yours 40's ! I was expecting that the Mazarra would have more PAR since it uses the new Cree XM-L's But it's the nicest fixture I have ever saw. congratulations. __________________ 720gal acrylic SPS dominant FULL LEDs 19 AI Hydra52, BBK Supermarin 300 RDIII skimmer. Visit my New Tank 2014: http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?p=22557157

09/21/2011, 12:35 PM	#98
roberto_lopes Registered Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Brazil Posts: 332	Well The PAR meter IS the same. An Apogee MQ200. AND His tank has 20" of height with 17" of water column. Mine have 24" of height with 23.5" of water column. So I'm not saying that their fixture is worse, I'm just expressing my disappointment since so many things was told about this new fixture. __________________ 720gal acrylic SPS dominant FULL LEDs 19 AI Hydra52, BBK Supermarin 300 RDIII skimmer. Visit my New Tank 2014: http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?p=22557157

09/15/2011, 01:37 PM	#76
HenHouse Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Milwaukee, Wisconsin Posts: 45	I have to ask a question since you are so good at answering. I am purchasing a 75 gallon 48" long, could I get aways with 2 modules for a mixed reef? I hate that the tank has a center brace otherwise I would probably get 3. But anyways could I get away with 2? Your tank looks beautiful. I hope to be on par with it one day, no pun intended.

09/15/2011, 01:51 PM	#77
HenHouse Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Milwaukee, Wisconsin Posts: 45	Oh and one more question... Does the units come with the different size optics and you yourself can interchange and play with or do you have to order with certain optics and you are stuck with them? Thanks agian.

09/15/2011, 01:53 PM	#78
TucanSam007 Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Suffolk, Long Island Posts: 652	I think they arrive with 70 degree optics but u can swap out with 100s or 40's that come with.

09/15/2011, 03:23 PM	#79
HenHouse Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Milwaukee, Wisconsin Posts: 45	Thanks that is very helpful. Do you think 2 would work for a 75 gallon 48" tank wanting a mixed reef? I just feel that 4 would be overkill with the center bracket.

09/15/2011, 09:16 PM	#80
Acrotrdco Moved On Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 708	Two modules maybe pushing it, you could try it with the 100 degree optics, it's probably visually bright enough to your eyes with 2 modules, but I'm worried if it's bright enough for all your corals. On the bright side, the Mazarra's are modular, get 2 first, try it out, if you think it's just not bright enough, add a 3rd later. It's that simple.

09/15/2011, 09:32 PM	#82
Reef2012 Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 13	For a 60" tank would you do 5 or 6 modules?

09/15/2011, 09:33 PM	#83
Reef2012 Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 13	Give us an update too!! How are you corals reacting to the new lights?!?! give us more video and picture!!!

09/16/2011, 12:14 AM	#85
mu_2176 Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 13	Hey mate, Just wondering do you have any updates on the vid? no rush cheers Jono

09/16/2011, 04:53 AM	#86
redliner Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 50	Looks awesome mate. Keeping my eyes on the progress.

09/17/2011, 10:12 PM	#88
TucanSam007 Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Suffolk, Long Island Posts: 652	I think they fixed that problem with the power outage reset

09/18/2011, 09:13 PM	#91
TucanSam007 Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Suffolk, Long Island Posts: 652	Hey acro, I wanted to ask you since I am a complete newb with led's. I'll be getting my maxspect mazarra in the mail tomorrow. Whats a good starting intensity and over what time frame should I gradually increase? From what i've red on the forums start out at 15-20% and gradually increase by 2-4% weekly and make observations/adjustments as needed. My current T5 lighting would be considered low par compared to the amount of par these new led's put out so I really need to take it slow. Any recommendations to initial intensity and timing durations would be very helpful!

09/21/2011, 12:32 AM	#94
Acrotrdco Moved On Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 708	AI Sol's are running 45 degree optics by default as far as I know.

09/21/2011, 11:53 AM	#97
Beenalongtime79 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 4,437	Unless, you are comparing results w/ the same PAR meter, I think it is hard to make that comparison of PAR numbers. Cheers, John

09/21/2011, 12:50 PM	#100
roberto_lopes Registered Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Brazil Posts: 332	Yes, respecting the light distribution, like everybody else, we have that PAR even with just ONE fixture. __________________ 720gal acrylic SPS dominant FULL LEDs 19 AI Hydra52, BBK Supermarin 300 RDIII skimmer. Visit my New Tank 2014: http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?p=22557157

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