DC pumps- Waveline, Speedwave or Diablo?

[MrSandman]

Originally Posted by htjunkie

I have a similar issue where if there's a brownout or dirty power shutdown, the controller (DC6000) would start but at the lowest setting. Manual override is required to get it back up to where it supposes to. This doesn't happen if I turn off the pump using the Apex or say unplug from the outlet. We had a pretty bad snow storm and power was on and off, good thing I noticed it early enough when power came back. Since then I have an UPS attached so at least it would be a clean cut of power when battery runs out.

Not sure how the warranty works in this case, also all the screws for the pump have been corrode badly.

I determined that due to the design of my plumbing the startup pressure was too high and it seemed that the pump stalled on startup. So I just lifted the return outputs to just slightly above the water line (instead of below the water line) and it fixed the problem. Fires up fine every time now. Maybe that will fix it for you too.

[Ron99]

Originally Posted by plasma327

Technically they are falsifying there product to push sales through. To me that shows they could care less about the quality of the product and the end user.

Not trying to defend them but I think saying they are falsifying their product is a bit harsh. The parts of the product that require UL certification are apparently certified. So perhaps they were just unaware of the labeling regulations that stipulate that if you show a UL mark on the box everything in the box has to be certified. Did they do it willfully or just out of ignorance? I don't know and I'm not going to jump to conclusions.

[ksed]

This pertains to the RD3 DC pump. Perhaps someone can explain to me in this PDF section 2.2 Formal Obligations. It states as follows Essential parts
of the pumps originate from non-German or near-European
production. Does this mean the main components don't come from Germany?
Here is the PDF

http://royalexclusiv.net/images/cont...e_eng_vs02.pdf

[das75]

Originally Posted by ksed

This pertains to the RD3 DC pump. Perhaps someone can explain to me in this PDF section 2.2 Formal Obligations. It states as follows Essential parts
of the pumps originate from non-German or near-European
production. Does this mean the main components don't come from Germany?
Here is the PDF

http://royalexclusiv.net/images/cont...e_eng_vs02.pdf

sounds clears, just assembled in Germany

[Klaus Jansen]

No, that´s not true. The only Components of the RD3 Speedy Pumps, where is not manufactured in Germany, are the PCB-Cards (Made in Slovenia) The new Generation RD3 Speedy Pumps use a updated PCB-Card. The new Electronic Components include PCB-Card are 100 % Made in Germany.
The only Components current on this DC Pumps, where is not Made in Germany, are the Titanium-Screws and Bolts. The Alumina Case for the Controller was Made in Italy. The main components come from Germany.

best regards.. Klaus

[MrSandman]

Originally Posted by Klaus Jansen D

No, that´s not true. The only Components of the RD3 Speedy Pumps, where is not manufactured in Germany, are the PCB-Cards (Made in Slovenia) The new Generation RD3 Speedy Pumps use a updated PCB-Card. The new Electronic Components include PCB-Card are 100 % Made in Germany.
The only Components current on this DC Pumps, where is not Made in Germany, are the Titanium-Screws and Bolts. The Alumina Case for the Controller was Made in Italy. The main components come from Germany.

best regards.. Klaus

Out if curiosity, are the RD3's UL Certified? I see references to EU directives and standards but nothing UL.

[carlos danger]

I heard the Speed Wave got in big trouble for the UL tested sticker violation. Didn't get permission or something to that affect? Plus weren't alot of the power modules getting too hot and burning up? It makes you think maybe the extra money is worth it for the piece of mind. I really don't want to come home to find out my return pump caught on fire and now the fire department is hosing down my house kind of like that Direct T.V commercial, LOL.

[albano]

Originally Posted by carlos danger

It makes you think maybe the extra money is worth it for the piece of mind...

???? And you call yourself Carlos Danger!

[FlyPenFly]

Originally Posted by carlos danger

I heard the Speed Wave got in big trouble for the UL tested sticker violation. Didn't get permission or something to that affect? Plus weren't alot of the power modules getting too hot and burning up? It makes you think maybe the extra money is worth it for the piece of mind. I really don't want to come home to find out my return pump caught on fire and now the fire department is hosing down my house kind of like that Direct T.V commercial, LOL.

I thought the UL certification involves actual testing and not just permission?

That is worrisome. Gotta go home and check the heat on my DC-9000 power supply.

[SloppyJ]

Interesting topic. I was researching DC return pumps and came across this.

[PMc]

Bought a speedwave DC 1320 last summer and put it into service in July. It failed last night. Electronics package seems to be OK but my ability to tell is limited. I disassemble what I could to look for a jam or other problem but it is clean. It was very quiet and pumped an adequate amount of water for my needs but six months of service is a disappointment. It looks like Premium Aquatics has removed them from their website. I will probably post the alert under another thread to amke it a little more searchable.

Mc

[reefermike1]

After reading this whole thread, I'll eat a few extra watts and stick with mag pumps for my returns. Thanks.

[MarksReef]

I came across this thread looking for a dc pump around max 1500 range and got a lesson on these pumps real quick
subscribed for more Info...

[SloppyJ]

I ordered a waveline dc6000 last night for my return pump. I'll let yall know how it goes.

[jimmyj7090]

Originally Posted by jimmyj7090

I got my RLSS through aquarium specialty (gen 1 pump). I started having issues with it not restarting after hitting feed mode. 1 e-mail and the response was "we'll replace it ASAP".

Who did you get yours through?

I'm still waiting. Huh

[jda]

My Diablo DC 10500 just quit on me. 7 months. So far, not impressed. I guess that I will see if they will replace it.

It is the pump, not the controller - I swapped with the one on my Diablo Skimmer and either controller will control the working pump... and neither will start the dead pump.

[matty0206]

Originally Posted by jda

My Diablo DC 10500 just quit on me. 7 months. So far, not impressed. I guess that I will see if they will replace it.

It is the pump, not the controller - I swapped with the one on my Diablo Skimmer and either controller will control the working pump... and neither will start the dead pump.

Coralvue is great about replacing and fixing issues as long as you are the original owner, I found out the hard way recently that they don't transfer warranties.

[wtac]

CoralVue is by LEAPS and BOUNDS is the best to deal w/issues on the DC pumps. Had a new COMPLETE pump within a week or two on 4 separate occasions on different pumps; flow and NW. A phone call/email to the place I bought them from, maybe an email from CoralVue w/a Q and that's it other than sending back the old pump.

Others is like pulling teeth and send one component at a time...waste of time and very frustrating. Diablos are on the higher price range for basically the same pump but it's definitely worth it!

JME/2C

[jda]

CV is already sending me a new one. This could not have been easier. This helps a little bit, but I would still like the replacement to last many, many years.

Also, it was 5 months of use, not 7.

[James77]

Originally Posted by reefermike1

After reading this whole thread, I'll eat a few extra watts and stick with mag pumps for my returns. Thanks.

+1 Though there are several other brands (including Mags) with great reliability. Eheim and Laguna are first to mind. I've been running a Laguna 1500 a year straight with no maintenance, zero problems.

[jda]

I don't think that there are any efficiencies in using a DC pump over a internal if you constantly need heat. Here in Colorado, our heaters run even in the summertime, so the heat from the Mags are a always welcome in my house. I have no doubt that there are climates where the heat from a Mag might not be desired, but not for me.

[reeflo/sequence]

I will own that Reeflo pumps can have seal problems-(thanks you UPS gorillas)...but I will not sit by and hear that we have motor bearing problems-believe me we hear about ALL of them and they are pretty rare, our motors are far suprior to those used by Dolphin

[htjunkie]

I talked to my supplier about the Waveline pump I have issues with, he gave me a 2nd gen controller it seems to work better now. It also has a soft start which doesn't splash water everywhere when the pump first turns on.

[chadfarmer]

been running a wave line gen2 since thanksgiving

[SloppyJ]

How do you know if your waveline is gen2 or not? It is supposed to be but I want to make sure.