Your creatures do not commit suicide - Page 4

NHorton · 12/12/2014, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by skey44

How a friend, or you the reef keeper, can prevent fish suicide. This is known by many different names including: carpet surfing, taking the magic toilet ride, getting eaten by something in the tank, VorTech shred, Free Willy, Harry Caray, and my personal favorite DOG SUSHI.

Here are the proven preventive measures

1. Ask the fish if they have a plan and how it makes them "feel"
2. Sit with them and provide for safety a minimum of twenty-four hours. This excuses you from any work or kid duty
3. if they start to get happier watch out! This is when they do it... the happiness is a result of finally deciding to go through with the plan. Cover all of the power-heads, and apply the tight fitting lid. Find that foamy thing you threw away when you got your VorTech
4. If it gets really bad and they keep bashing their head into the lid, provide for solitary confinement. Apply the padded specimen containers and tiny little straightjackets.
5. Once they are no longer experiencing suicidal ideation have them sign a suicide-watch contract. When they are determined "able to interact" with the population again, let them. Continue to monitor for safety on an hourly basis

Just to be on the safe side, I make my fish remove their belts and shoelaces when I put them in QT.

They get them back when they are ready to go to the DT.

Paul B · 12/12/2014, 10:50 AM

My Copperband was trying to convince my hammer
coral to crush it to death.

woodnaquanut · 12/12/2014, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by slief

Doctorwhore,
I gotta hand it to you!! Great thread! LOL!!

You might want to look at the OPs handle again. I don't think that's were he? would expect it to be shortened.

Gotta admit that was my first take at it.

slief · 12/12/2014, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by ghostman

I've had quite a few laughs from this thread. Reefers have a great sense of humor. Unfortunately, I'm guessing the OP was serious and probably doesn't enjoy the lighthearted nature of the thread. I am though!!!!!

I too think he or she was serious when this thread was started. My first reply was even somewhat serious and level headed. After seeing how this thread has digressed, I felt compelled to contribute further as it has become very entertaining. I guess the OP's good intentions backfired somewhat.

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Originally Posted by woodnaquanut

You might want to look at the OPs handle again. I don't think that's were he? would expect it to be shortened.

Gotta admit that was my first take at it.

It was an blatant play on words on my part.

gone fishin · 12/12/2014, 12:54 PM

Funny how some threads just seem to take on a life of their own.

burkhart.5150 · 12/12/2014, 02:05 PM

Would it be considered attempting suicide or Russian roulette if my clown swims dangerously close to my mp10? Do I need to sit down and have a talk with him?

Spar · 12/12/2014, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by burkhart.5150

Would it be considered attempting suicide or Russian roulette if my clown swims dangerously close to my mp10? Do I need to sit down and have a talk with him?

my clowns have hosted my MP60

if that aint suicide, i dont know what is (albeit they have made it 2 years doing this... they sure aren't good at it if that is their intent)

Tiberione · 12/12/2014, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by burkhart.5150

Would it be considered attempting suicide or Russian roulette if my clown swims dangerously close to my mp10? Do I need to sit down and have a talk with him?

Hes a trill seeker

pinnatus · 12/12/2014, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul B

My Copperband was trying to convince my hammer
coral to crush it to death.

Paul, is that a wall hammer?

Paul B · 12/12/2014, 02:36 PM

No, it's a claw hammer

burkhart.5150 · 12/12/2014, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Tiberione

Hes a trill seeker

Adrenaline junkie? I may need to plan an intervention.

doctorwhoreefer · 12/12/2014, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by slief

I too think he or she was serious when this thread was started. My first reply was even somewhat serious and level headed. After seeing how this thread has digressed, I felt compelled to contribute further as it has become very entertaining. I guess the OP's good intentions backfired somewhat.

It was an blatant play on words on my part.

I wouldn't say it's digressed so much as been acknowledged.. :P

If proper precautions for critters weren't a thought before for some, perhaps they might be now!

slief · 12/12/2014, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by doctorwhoreefer

I wouldn't say it's digressed so much as been acknowledged.. :P

If proper precautions for critters weren't a thought before for some, perhaps they might be now!

If it makes you feel any better, just a few days ago, I had a wrasse commit "suicide" by jumping out of the water onto the top of my tank. I found wrasse jerky. This prompted me to finish my screen cover for that half of the tank as this wasn't the first time it happened. Last time, it happened right in front of me while I was up top. Fortunately I saved that one. Oddly, they always seem to jump on one side of the tank. Probably because that is usually where I feed from. I will admit that when I took to finishing my screen lid which I started a few weeks ago but had to wait for the right screen, I thought of you and this thread. As such, I did my bit of suicide prevention.

That said, while this topic is has certainly garnered it's share of exposure and sarcasm, there is truth to what you are saying. The onus is on us to do what we can to prevent casualties. Our livestock can't help the hazards we create within our tanks and there is plenty we can do to prevent most of those kinds of losses. I've been involved in this hobby for a very long time and get lazy myself. This lid is a great example of something I should have done a long time ago to prevent inadvertent loss of life. Had I done it after the first loss nearly a year ago, I could have saved 2 others.. So as much as I heckled you (playfully) in my last post, there is gravity to your point and between this thread and the jerky, It prompted me to expedite and solution to an issue in my tank. :beers:

doctorwhoreefer · 12/13/2014, 07:16 AM

I need to finish my gyre cages for the maxspect... I made one, a bit too bulky, but I'm considering it version 1.0. (my measurements were off too so I had to squeeze the pump in a little lol)

With all the products on the market, I can't belive there's not more products for guarding fish again powerheads, overflows, etc.. Kinda surprising if ya think about it.

hkgar · 12/13/2014, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul B

No, it's a claw hammer

So it is some kind of unique creature, not an encrusting coral but a crustacean coral? Interesting.

hogfanreefer · 12/13/2014, 02:47 PM

More like a crushtacean coral!

Paul B · 12/13/2014, 03:14 PM

So this guy, a clingfish decided to jump into my surface skimmer which leads to an empty bio pellet chamber that I have just for the coolness factor and it is filled with brittle stars then it goes to the protein skimmer then to the algae trough and last but not least, the reverse UG filter. So he was stuck in the bio pellet chamber chamber which I designed so it could not be opened. So I had to take the entire thing apart while squirting water into it to keep the stupid fish alive. Now I have to re-design the surface skimmer to be clingfish proof even though in 15 or 20 years no other fish had decided to take this trip. I got him out and he seems fine but he doesn't care one bit how much work I had to do to take all this stuff apart.

Surface skimmer with floating top so it just skims the surface

Bio pellet chamber where fish was stuck.

12/12/2014, 10:50 AM	#77
Paul B Premium Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Long Island NY Posts: 15,549	My Copperband was trying to convince my hammer coral to crush it to death. __________________ I used to get shocked when I put my hand in my tank. Then the electric eel went dead. Current Tank Info: 100 gal reef set up in 1971

12/12/2014, 12:54 PM	#80
gone fishin Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Wyocena Wi Posts: 6,936	Funny how some threads just seem to take on a life of their own. __________________ Tony Current Tank Info: 180gal DT, BM NAC77 skimmer,3 Maxspect razors, Maxspect Gyre 150, 30g QT

12/12/2014, 02:36 PM	#85
Paul B Premium Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Long Island NY Posts: 15,549	No, it's a claw hammer __________________ I used to get shocked when I put my hand in my tank. Then the electric eel went dead. Current Tank Info: 100 gal reef set up in 1971

12/13/2014, 02:47 PM	#91
hogfanreefer Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Conway, AR Posts: 2,117	More like a crushtacean coral! __________________ DSA 155,Custom Trigger 42" sump/refugium, MP40 X2, MP 10 X 2, AI Hydra 52 X3, Apex controller, Tunze ATO Current Tank Info: DSA 155 gallon, mixed reef, SPS and wrasse dominant

12/13/2014, 03:14 PM	#92
Paul B Premium Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Long Island NY Posts: 15,549	So this guy, a clingfish decided to jump into my surface skimmer which leads to an empty bio pellet chamber that I have just for the coolness factor and it is filled with brittle stars then it goes to the protein skimmer then to the algae trough and last but not least, the reverse UG filter. So he was stuck in the bio pellet chamber chamber which I designed so it could not be opened. So I had to take the entire thing apart while squirting water into it to keep the stupid fish alive. Now I have to re-design the surface skimmer to be clingfish proof even though in 15 or 20 years no other fish had decided to take this trip. I got him out and he seems fine but he doesn't care one bit how much work I had to do to take all this stuff apart. Surface skimmer with floating top so it just skims the surface Bio pellet chamber where fish was stuck. __________________ I used to get shocked when I put my hand in my tank. Then the electric eel went dead. Current Tank Info: 100 gal reef set up in 1971

12/12/2014, 02:05 PM	#81
burkhart.5150 Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Woodland ca Posts: 239	Would it be considered attempting suicide or Russian roulette if my clown swims dangerously close to my mp10? Do I need to sit down and have a talk with him?

12/13/2014, 07:16 AM	#89
doctorwhoreefer Moved On Join Date: Nov 2014 Posts: 353	I need to finish my gyre cages for the maxspect... I made one, a bit too bulky, but I'm considering it version 1.0. (my measurements were off too so I had to squeeze the pump in a little lol) With all the products on the market, I can't belive there's not more products for guarding fish again powerheads, overflows, etc.. Kinda surprising if ya think about it.