My 125 Project - Page 4

Stile2 · 04/16/2006, 08:10 AM

If you like the idea of having two make one removable. The stand will withstand the ten minutes with one when and if you ever need to remove the sump.

Keith

tangdiver · 04/16/2006, 08:15 AM

very good now we are thinking...

grant

Tat2demon · 04/17/2006, 02:08 PM

Oh, definatly going to do that then.

steveo32 · 04/17/2006, 03:00 PM

Great work and just so you know you have the mother of all 125's lol !!!!!

15nano · 04/17/2006, 03:19 PM

Stand looks like it should hold just fine.

hoover86 · 04/27/2006, 09:31 PM

How's this bad boy comin along????

Tat2demon · 04/28/2006, 08:45 AM

Got the staining done. Now I just need to attach the trip and put on a couple coats of poly. Ill have more pics after this weekend.

Tat2demon · 05/01/2006, 12:33 AM

Ok time for an update and pics.

I made one of the front supports removable incase the sump needs to be taken out and had to redo the rear supports. I either had the wrong dimensions for the tank or measured wrong when I was building. Either way, the 75gal sump didnt fit.

The finish work is nowhere near alot of some stands Ive seen here but I think it turned out pretty good for my first woodworking project and a severe lack of the proper tools.

The finish wood is just cheap pine "Car Siding" from Menards and pine trim. I decided to go with red oak color stain.

The front is a one piece removable panel. This will allow full access to everything under the stand. I made kind of a pocket for the bottom to slide into and attached the front/side trim to the panel.

I will be putting on a couple coats of clear satin poly later this week to finish it up. Hopefully Ill get started on the canopy in the next couple weeks.

tangdiver · 05/01/2006, 06:22 AM

Smart as hell....full acess to bottom when wanted...........really thinking......

Grant

Lunchbucket · 05/01/2006, 07:25 PM

looking good! i've always liked the "easy access" thing

Lunchbucket

chaseracing · 05/15/2006, 05:46 PM

Any new progress?

-=E=-

Tat2demon · 05/15/2006, 07:08 PM

Nah not yet. Been pretty busy around here the last couple weekends. I plan to start (and hopefully finish) the canopy on Sunday.

chaseracing · 05/15/2006, 07:25 PM

I am starting a 150gal project and I am going to try and mimic your stand. Thanks for the great pics!

-=E=-

Tat2demon · 05/15/2006, 09:37 PM

Happy to help.

If you need any other pics of certain spot or any questions feel free to ask.

Hopefully Ill have canopy pics this weekend.

Got a couple Sea Swirls from the sell forum that should be here in a few days or so. Ill have my return line hooked into those.

Im not sure if I want to go with a closed loop and Ocean Motion or a couple Vortechs for the rest of the flow. If I go Vortechs Ill wait on them until they get the directional nozzels and controler put out. I need to hook up with Travis and get his opinion on some other plumbing.

Travis · 05/16/2006, 06:55 AM

Just give me a shout when you are ready to come over and we can talk plumbing. Sorry I had to put you off for a while. My tank went through a bad spell for a month or so while I had to tear it down and treat all the corals in a quarantine tank for 4 weeks and the tank room was a real mess. But I got everything put back together a week ago so you are free to come over whenever you have time.

alien9168 · 05/20/2006, 01:49 PM

Looks grate nate!

Tat2demon · 05/20/2006, 03:06 PM

Thanks

Well it looks like I wont be able to work the canopy this weekend after all.

Tat2demon · 05/28/2006, 06:30 AM

Ok I need some opinions from Ocean Motions users. I got a couple 3/4" Sea Swirls that should be here Tuesday. Ill have one in each back corner that will be fed from my sump return.

I also want to install an OceansMotions.

I will get either a 4 way or 8.

First, what do yall think I should get. Im leaning towards an 8 way since the tank is 96" long.

If I go with an 8 heres what I was thinking:

One on each side of the center overflow near the top, one in each top front corner and 4 across the bottom/front,

Or

One on each side of the center overflow near the top, one spraybar on each side on the bottom at the back, and 4 across the bottom/front.

Any other arrangements you can think of?

I cant do the canopy this weekend again so I was thinking it may be a good time to drill some bulkhead holes.

Thanks

Travis · 05/28/2006, 04:45 PM

Some questions first....
Will your sea swirls be on a closed loop or the return loop?

What type of corals will you be keeping?

What pump will be running the sea swirls?

What pump are you thinking for the OM 4-way/8-way?

Are you planning to have a bare bottom, shallow sandbed, or deep sandbed?

Stile2 · 05/28/2006, 06:01 PM

I would go with the 8-way and depending on the corals you're keeping and sand bed situation would decide the pump used.

The only way you're going to get random flow and no dead spots is to go 8-way or many powerheads.

Keith

Tat2demon · 05/29/2006, 12:44 AM

The Sea Swirls will be on the return.

I have no idea what pumps Ill be using for either the CL or return.

Im thinking it will be mostly SPS with a few other things thrown in. Heavy on the fish too.

After seeing all the sludge that was in the bucket when I tore down my 65 I am going to go BB. Couldnt believe all the stuff that was in the sand.

Slickdonkey · 06/09/2006, 02:54 PM

I went with a 4-way on my 240g project (also 8' long). IMO plumbing an 8-way can be a real mess and you should be able to get comparable flow by splitting each output of the 4-way into two bulkheads for 8 total. Put a loc-line Y on each and a Hammerhead pump and I don't think you'll have any problems. I can send you a link to pictures if you like; I hear the mods here don't take kindly to posting links to other forums.

Tat2demon · 06/09/2006, 03:01 PM

I talked to Paul at OM. He suggested the same thing. I would definatly like to see some pics.

Tat2demon · 06/09/2006, 03:01 PM

Double post.

Slickdonkey · 06/09/2006, 03:37 PM

Ok, here are a few pictures for all to enjoy; I don't mean to hijack your thread and I don't purport to be an expert by any means, but I think this setup is going to work well for me. I will PM you the link to the complete thread to avoid getting busted if you want to read more.

Here's the final blueprint and some pictures of my closed-loop plumbing. Be sure to put unions and ball valves around the inputs and outputs of both the pump and the OM 4-way valve for maintenance and/or replacement. I'm using the version 2 drum. All PVC is 1.5" and each outlet bulkhead is 3/4" with a locline-Y coming out of each one. The CL pump is a Sequence Hammerhead and boy does it churn that water around, let me tell you. The inlet bulkheads on the right are both 1.5".

Best of luck on your project. You're off to a great start.

04/16/2006, 08:10 AM	#76
Stile2 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Yucaipa, California (some little town you've never heard of) Posts: 1,624	If you like the idea of having two make one removable. The stand will withstand the ten minutes with one when and if you ever need to remove the sump. Keith __________________ If you have a college degree, you can be sure of one thing. You have a college degree! Superman owns Chuck Norris Pajamas!! Current Tank Info: 77 Gallon Custom peninsula 3 sides viewable, DIY Steel Stand, OM Squirt, 2 x 250 w MH, 2 x 95 w VHO, DIY Skimmer

04/16/2006, 08:15 AM	#77
tangdiver Premium Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Sioux Falls South Dakota Posts: 1,231	very good now we are thinking... grant __________________ Its unwise to pay to much or to little When U pay to much U lose a little $ When U pay to little U sometimes lose it all because the thing U bought was incapable of doing the thing U bought it to do Current Tank Info: 6' long, 3' wide, 2' high, My tank is not worthy of Tank of the Month

04/17/2006, 02:08 PM	#78
Tat2demon Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Sioux Falls, SD Posts: 833	Oh, definatly going to do that then. __________________ Nate cham - "Taste it, if it tastes like poop.....it is." Current Tank Info: 400 gallon in progress. 8x3x2.5

04/27/2006, 09:31 PM	#81
hoover86 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Rockledge FL Posts: 388	How's this bad boy comin along???? __________________ -Josh-

04/28/2006, 08:45 AM	#82
Tat2demon Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Sioux Falls, SD Posts: 833	Got the staining done. Now I just need to attach the trip and put on a couple coats of poly. Ill have more pics after this weekend. __________________ Nate cham - "Taste it, if it tastes like poop.....it is." Current Tank Info: 400 gallon in progress. 8x3x2.5

04/17/2006, 03:00 PM	#79
steveo32 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: new york Posts: 344	Great work and just so you know you have the mother of all 125's lol !!!!!

04/17/2006, 03:19 PM	#80
15nano Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Indianapolis, In Posts: 68	Stand looks like it should hold just fine.

05/01/2006, 12:33 AM	#83
Tat2demon Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Sioux Falls, SD Posts: 833	Ok time for an update and pics. I made one of the front supports removable incase the sump needs to be taken out and had to redo the rear supports. I either had the wrong dimensions for the tank or measured wrong when I was building. Either way, the 75gal sump didnt fit. The finish work is nowhere near alot of some stands Ive seen here but I think it turned out pretty good for my first woodworking project and a severe lack of the proper tools. The finish wood is just cheap pine "Car Siding" from Menards and pine trim. I decided to go with red oak color stain. The front is a one piece removable panel. This will allow full access to everything under the stand. I made kind of a pocket for the bottom to slide into and attached the front/side trim to the panel. I will be putting on a couple coats of clear satin poly later this week to finish it up. Hopefully Ill get started on the canopy in the next couple weeks. __________________ Nate cham - "Taste it, if it tastes like poop.....it is." Current Tank Info: 400 gallon in progress. 8x3x2.5

05/01/2006, 06:22 AM	#84
tangdiver Premium Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Sioux Falls South Dakota Posts: 1,231	Smart as hell....full acess to bottom when wanted...........really thinking...... Grant __________________ Its unwise to pay to much or to little When U pay to much U lose a little $ When U pay to little U sometimes lose it all because the thing U bought was incapable of doing the thing U bought it to do Current Tank Info: 6' long, 3' wide, 2' high, My tank is not worthy of Tank of the Month

05/01/2006, 07:25 PM	#85
Lunchbucket Premium Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Brookings, SD Posts: 12,924	looking good! i've always liked the "easy access" thing Lunchbucket __________________ Trying to lose weight by walking is like trying to bake a cake w/ a cigarette lighter - Lunchbucket - "Nancy-Boy Extraordinaire" - maxxII- Current Tank Info: 58gal Oceanic RR, 2x400w MH (20k XM and 10k XM), Deltec PF601 Ca Rx, Deltec AP701 skimmer, mag950 return, iwaki 55rlt w/ an Oceansmotions 4-way unit, Tunze 7300 and 6000 each w/ controller, fluidized po4 rx

05/15/2006, 05:46 PM	#86
chaseracing Premium Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Bartlett, IL Posts: 1,208	Any new progress? -=E=- __________________ I want my dog's life. Current Tank Info: 150gal RR Oceanic - (3) 250w. ReefLux 12K, (2) 96w PC 50/50, (3) Tunze 6025 modded, (3) Tunze 6045's, ASM G3, MRC-1, Melev F sump/fuge, all run off of an Aquacontroller Jr. Mixed Reef w/ lots of Fish and not enough rock.

05/15/2006, 07:08 PM	#87
Tat2demon Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Sioux Falls, SD Posts: 833	Nah not yet. Been pretty busy around here the last couple weekends. I plan to start (and hopefully finish) the canopy on Sunday. __________________ Nate cham - "Taste it, if it tastes like poop.....it is." Current Tank Info: 400 gallon in progress. 8x3x2.5

05/15/2006, 07:25 PM	#88
chaseracing Premium Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Bartlett, IL Posts: 1,208	I am starting a 150gal project and I am going to try and mimic your stand. Thanks for the great pics! -=E=- __________________ I want my dog's life. Current Tank Info: 150gal RR Oceanic - (3) 250w. ReefLux 12K, (2) 96w PC 50/50, (3) Tunze 6025 modded, (3) Tunze 6045's, ASM G3, MRC-1, Melev F sump/fuge, all run off of an Aquacontroller Jr. Mixed Reef w/ lots of Fish and not enough rock.

05/15/2006, 09:37 PM	#89
Tat2demon Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Sioux Falls, SD Posts: 833	Happy to help. If you need any other pics of certain spot or any questions feel free to ask. Hopefully Ill have canopy pics this weekend. Got a couple Sea Swirls from the sell forum that should be here in a few days or so. Ill have my return line hooked into those. Im not sure if I want to go with a closed loop and Ocean Motion or a couple Vortechs for the rest of the flow. If I go Vortechs Ill wait on them until they get the directional nozzels and controler put out. I need to hook up with Travis and get his opinion on some other plumbing. __________________ Nate cham - "Taste it, if it tastes like poop.....it is." Current Tank Info: 400 gallon in progress. 8x3x2.5

05/16/2006, 06:55 AM	#90
Travis 10 and over club Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Sioux Falls, SD Posts: 5,525	Just give me a shout when you are ready to come over and we can talk plumbing. Sorry I had to put you off for a while. My tank went through a bad spell for a month or so while I had to tear it down and treat all the corals in a quarantine tank for 4 weeks and the tank room was a real mess. But I got everything put back together a week ago so you are free to come over whenever you have time. __________________ TOTM August 08 An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. Current Tank Info: 280 sps w/ 75 LPS, 75 refugium, 120 sump

05/20/2006, 01:49 PM	#91
alien9168 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,664	Looks grate nate! __________________ -Alien Current Tank Info: I used to have a 30g custom acrylic cube sps, lps, zoos, mushrooms, leathers, 3" gigas+ anthias. 30Xg Sea Horse Tank...starting fresh...

05/20/2006, 03:06 PM	#92
Tat2demon Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Sioux Falls, SD Posts: 833	Thanks Well it looks like I wont be able to work the canopy this weekend after all. __________________ Nate cham - "Taste it, if it tastes like poop.....it is." Current Tank Info: 400 gallon in progress. 8x3x2.5

05/28/2006, 06:30 AM	#93
Tat2demon Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Sioux Falls, SD Posts: 833	Ok I need some opinions from Ocean Motions users. I got a couple 3/4" Sea Swirls that should be here Tuesday. Ill have one in each back corner that will be fed from my sump return. I also want to install an OceansMotions. I will get either a 4 way or 8. First, what do yall think I should get. Im leaning towards an 8 way since the tank is 96" long. If I go with an 8 heres what I was thinking: One on each side of the center overflow near the top, one in each top front corner and 4 across the bottom/front, Or One on each side of the center overflow near the top, one spraybar on each side on the bottom at the back, and 4 across the bottom/front. Any other arrangements you can think of? I cant do the canopy this weekend again so I was thinking it may be a good time to drill some bulkhead holes. Thanks __________________ Nate cham - "Taste it, if it tastes like poop.....it is." Current Tank Info: 400 gallon in progress. 8x3x2.5

05/28/2006, 04:45 PM	#94
Travis 10 and over club Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Sioux Falls, SD Posts: 5,525	Some questions first.... Will your sea swirls be on a closed loop or the return loop? What type of corals will you be keeping? What pump will be running the sea swirls? What pump are you thinking for the OM 4-way/8-way? Are you planning to have a bare bottom, shallow sandbed, or deep sandbed? __________________ TOTM August 08 An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. Current Tank Info: 280 sps w/ 75 LPS, 75 refugium, 120 sump

05/28/2006, 06:01 PM	#95
Stile2 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Yucaipa, California (some little town you've never heard of) Posts: 1,624	I would go with the 8-way and depending on the corals you're keeping and sand bed situation would decide the pump used. The only way you're going to get random flow and no dead spots is to go 8-way or many powerheads. Keith __________________ If you have a college degree, you can be sure of one thing. You have a college degree! Superman owns Chuck Norris Pajamas!! Current Tank Info: 77 Gallon Custom peninsula 3 sides viewable, DIY Steel Stand, OM Squirt, 2 x 250 w MH, 2 x 95 w VHO, DIY Skimmer

05/29/2006, 12:44 AM	#96
Tat2demon Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Sioux Falls, SD Posts: 833	The Sea Swirls will be on the return. I have no idea what pumps Ill be using for either the CL or return. Im thinking it will be mostly SPS with a few other things thrown in. Heavy on the fish too. After seeing all the sludge that was in the bucket when I tore down my 65 I am going to go BB. Couldnt believe all the stuff that was in the sand. __________________ Nate cham - "Taste it, if it tastes like poop.....it is." Current Tank Info: 400 gallon in progress. 8x3x2.5

06/09/2006, 02:54 PM	#97
Slickdonkey Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Woodinville, WA Posts: 375	I went with a 4-way on my 240g project (also 8' long). IMO plumbing an 8-way can be a real mess and you should be able to get comparable flow by splitting each output of the 4-way into two bulkheads for 8 total. Put a loc-line Y on each and a Hammerhead pump and I don't think you'll have any problems. I can send you a link to pictures if you like; I hear the mods here don't take kindly to posting links to other forums.

06/09/2006, 03:01 PM	#98
Tat2demon Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Sioux Falls, SD Posts: 833	I talked to Paul at OM. He suggested the same thing. I would definatly like to see some pics. __________________ Nate cham - "Taste it, if it tastes like poop.....it is." Current Tank Info: 400 gallon in progress. 8x3x2.5

06/09/2006, 03:01 PM	#99
Tat2demon Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Sioux Falls, SD Posts: 833	Double post. __________________ Nate cham - "Taste it, if it tastes like poop.....it is." Current Tank Info: 400 gallon in progress. 8x3x2.5

06/09/2006, 03:37 PM	#100
Slickdonkey Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Woodinville, WA Posts: 375	Ok, here are a few pictures for all to enjoy; I don't mean to hijack your thread and I don't purport to be an expert by any means, but I think this setup is going to work well for me. I will PM you the link to the complete thread to avoid getting busted if you want to read more. Here's the final blueprint and some pictures of my closed-loop plumbing. Be sure to put unions and ball valves around the inputs and outputs of both the pump and the OM 4-way valve for maintenance and/or replacement. I'm using the version 2 drum. All PVC is 1.5" and each outlet bulkhead is 3/4" with a locline-Y coming out of each one. The CL pump is a Sequence Hammerhead and boy does it churn that water around, let me tell you. The inlet bulkheads on the right are both 1.5". Best of luck on your project. You're off to a great start.