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Unread 04/05/2014, 01:02 PM   #10076
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should be fine
Exquisite fairy wrasse was the plan. I thought all fairy wrasses were okay? Are there some I need to be concerned about?

Don't worry. I have a 20 gallon QT in my stand. Even cycling it.


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I am new to this hobby and I'm starting with my existing wall mounted 20 gallon tank. The tank is 15in tall, 59in long and 5in wide. The main display is 51in. There are 2 side compartments (one on each side) with about 4x5x15 each. I put a eshopps nano skimmer on the left with a power pump underneath to make sure water will flow in from the main display, and I put 2 small bags of bioballs there too. On the other side I put a Fluval U4. The U4 has 3 compartments in sandwich style, a bioball compartment in the middle and filter media on 2 sides. I replace those filter media with Purigen on 1 side and Chemi Pure Elite on the other. I also have 2 Jebao WP10 wavemakers, one on each side. The one on the right is making 1/2in high wave, and the one on the left is on Else S2 mode (which creates random pattern flow and pushing out around 500gph). I just added Green Killing Machine UV 9W.


The tank has live sand bottom of about 1-2in. has about 15lbs of live rocks and small coral. I currently have a cleaner shrimp and a longpike urchin in there. I've started this tank about 2 months ago, and I get Diatoms 2 times already, which killed some fishes. The urchin and the cleaner shrimp survived all that, amazing. I cleaned everything up and added the Purigen and CPE in my tank about 2 weeks ago and notice great water improvement.

My question would be how long should I wait till I can add fishes again. I still have some Diatoms and some Cyano right now. My water is as follow:

NO3: 20

NO2: 0

PH: 8.5

KH: 120

GH: 180

gravity: 1.025

Should I use any trace supplements? I do weekly water change of 20%. I plan to add: in a 20 gallon tank, you could do one of the cardinals and a firefish or alternatively, but marginally, a pair of clownfish (A. ocellaris) instead.

Pajamas Cardinal x1

Banggai Cardinal x1

Firefish x1

Ocellaris Clown x1

small coral (undecided) x1

Would this be ok? Total flow rate of my tank right now is above 2000gph, do you think this is a little too much?

Sorry for keeping you reading this long, but I'm new and I need your professional opinion. always a pleasure, but please don't add blank spaces

Thank you very much for your time.



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Exquisite fairy wrasse was the plan. I thought all fairy wrasses were okay? Are there some I need to be concerned about?

Don't worry. I have a 20 gallon QT in my stand. Even cycling it.
All fairy wrasses are not equal! But an exquisite will be fine


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Unread 04/05/2014, 01:10 PM   #10079
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Stock list help?

56g tower - Need help with order of introduction into DT as well as additions to the list. Will start with this short list.

Currently stocked with 2 Cleaner shrimp and some snails.

Stock list:
Midas Blenny
Blue/Green Reef Chromis (can I do more than 1?)
2-Ocellaris Clownfish
Need additional ideas please

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Unread 04/05/2014, 01:23 PM   #10080
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56g tower - Need help with order of introduction into DT as well as additions to the list. Will start with this short list.

Currently stocked with 2 Cleaner shrimp and some snails.

Stock list:
Midas Blenny
Blue/Green Reef Chromis (can I do more than 1?) more than one will become one; be sure to quarantine
2-Ocellaris Clownfish
Need additional ideas please

Thanks!
fine, except as noted


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Unread 04/05/2014, 05:01 PM   #10081
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60 Gal Stock Help

Tank: 4ft 60 gallon tank (18 months old)
Want to add one last fish
Thinking of a tang or reef safe angel. Candidates include
Yellow Tang
White Cheek Tang
Bellus Angelfish
Swallow Tail Angel (not Japanese)
Longnose Butterfly
Pyramid butterfly


Current Fish
1 Snowflake Clownfish
1 Lineatus Fairy Wrasse (Supermale)
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Ammonia:0
Nitrate: 0
Nitrates:0
pH: 8.2
Other
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80 lbs LS
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Unread 04/05/2014, 05:15 PM   #10082
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hi i was wondering what people could tell me about monarch damsels


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Unread 04/05/2014, 05:31 PM   #10083
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Tank: 4ft 60 gallon tank (18 months old)
Want to add one last fish
Thinking of a tang or reef safe angel. Candidates include
Yellow Tang
White Cheek Tang
Bellus Angelfish
Swallow Tail Angel (not Japanese)
Longnose Butterfly
Pyramid butterfly

Unfortunately all of these fish would push your tank size and really need a larger tank.

Current Fish
1 Snowflake Clownfish
1 Lineatus Fairy Wrasse (Supermale)
Params
Ammonia:0
Nitrate: 0
Nitrates:0
pH: 8.2
Other
55 lbs LR
80 lbs LS
15 Gal Quarantine Tank



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hi i was wondering what people could tell me about monarch damsels
If you wish general opinions, best to start your own thread in Reef Fish since this is not a discussion thread.


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Unread 04/06/2014, 06:05 AM   #10085
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I have a 100g, 4' tank. Reef, 3 months old
Your thoughts please

Current
3 kauderns cardinals
Longnose Hawkfish
Firefish

Proposed additions
Purple firefish
Blue Chromis
Flasher Wrasse + Harem x 3
Coral beauty
Kole Tang
Yellow Tang - both Tangs introduced together last



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Unread 04/06/2014, 08:22 AM   #10086
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I have a 100g, 4' tank. Reef, 3 months old
Your thoughts please

Current
3 kauderns cardinals only two will survive (hopefully they are tank raised)
Longnose Hawkfish not shrimp safe
Firefish

Proposed additions
Purple firefish only one per this sized tank
Blue Chromis be sure it is healthy as they are susceptible to uronema
Flasher Wrasse + Harem x 3
Coral beauty wait for six months tank maturity
Kole Tang
Yellow Tang needs a larger tank) - both Tangs introduced together last
only one tang in this sized tank for long term success


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Unread 04/06/2014, 11:56 AM   #10087
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I have a mixed reef 245 gallon tank with various fish, corals, clam and shrimp and a couple of hermit crabs. I want to add some fish soon. All the fish get along.

Questions:

1. Can I have multiple male and female reef friendly wrasses? I have a male McCloskers now
2. Can I have multiple gobies. I have a yellowhead jawfish, a watchman and a lawnmower blenny. I want to get more sand sifters and others if possible.
3. Can I add a new tang at this point. I have 4 now, 2 yellow, mimic and Desjardins. I want a Caribbean blue and/or blue, and/or powder tang and/or Kole. The last tang I added (the mimic) was initially picked on a bit but toughed it out and proved he could take some initial chasing. No problems now.
4. I have a Midas blenny and want to get some other blennies. Can I get a few more?
5. Dartfish?
6. Anthrias?
7. I will be adding a few different schools of chromis. These seem safe as I have some now with no issues.


I don't want anything that will be a problem or will eat my clam, shrimp or corals.


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I have a mixed reef 245 gallon tank with various fish, corals, clam and shrimp and a couple of hermit crabs. I want to add some fish soon. All the fish get along.

Questions:

1. Can I have multiple male and female reef friendly wrasses? I have a male McCloskers now Yes. Most flashers (except the red sea 8 line) are compatibile with multiple females per male; many fairy wrasses are doable but if you have multiple females per male they must be a different size
2. Can I have multiple gobies. I have a yellowhead jawfish, a watchman and a lawnmower blenny. I want to get more sand sifters and others if possible. multiple sand sifters are probably not going to work long term
3. Can I add a new tang at this point. I have 4 now, 2 yellow, mimic and Desjardins. I want a Caribbean blue and/or blue, and/or powder tang and/or Kole. The last tang I added (the mimic) was initially picked on a bit but toughed it out and proved he could take some initial chasing. No problems now.

use an acclimation box to diffuse initial territorial aggression. an 8 foot tank will help that a lot
4. I have a Midas blenny and want to get some other blennies. Can I get a few more? it may work in this length tank, but it is iffy
5. Dartfish? yes
6. Anthrias? yes, but they do best with multiple feedings per day
7. I will be adding a few different schools of chromis. These seem safe as I have some now with no issues. long term, that may or may not work but be sure they are quarantined as uronema is common with chromis


I don't want anything that will be a problem or will eat my clam, shrimp or corals.



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Unread 04/06/2014, 01:19 PM   #10089
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When you say long term are you referring to as the fish get larger and may get more aggressive with age?


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When you say long term are you referring to as the fish get larger and may get more aggressive with age?
the vast majority of time, chromis will have the aggressive one kill off the remainder. It does not happen immediately, usually over months.


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Unread 04/06/2014, 01:27 PM   #10091
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I have a 75 gallon mixed reef with 50 gallon fuge and sump. Tank has been up for 9 months and refugium is full of mysis shrimp, display lots of copepods, amphipods, worms, and such.

Currently I have:

One spot foxface,
2 banggai cardinals
1 flame angel
2 ocel. clowns
1 royal gramma
3 blue/green chromis

I'm planning to add:

1 green mandarin, Synchiropus splendidus
1 blue-spot watchman goby, cryptocentrus pavoninoides

Will these last two compete for food too much? I regularly feed sustainable aquatics mini-pellets three times per day from apex autofeeder and a 1/4" cube of thawed Roggers each morning which the cardinals eat. I also put in 1.5" square of sea veggies each morning on a clip which the angel and foxface munch on through the day.

I have started hatching baby brine for the coming mandarin in quarantine/observation and have refugium rock in the quarantine for him which should be full of mysis also during his observation stay. It's not such a big chore that I can see doing it regularly for the mandarin if necessary.

The goby will be quarantined elsewhere for 4 weeks before I get it.

Anything to be concerned about?


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I have a 75 gallon mixed reef with 50 gallon fuge and sump. Tank has been up for 9 months and refugium is full of mysis shrimp, display lots of copepods, amphipods, worms, and such.

Currently I have:

One spot foxface,
2 banggai cardinals
1 flame angel
2 ocel. clowns
1 royal gramma
3 blue/green chromis

I'm planning to add:

1 green mandarin, Synchiropus splendidus
1 blue-spot watchman goby, cryptocentrus pavoninoides

Will these last two compete for food too much?

Should be fine

I regularly feed sustainable aquatics mini-pellets three times per day from apex autofeeder and a 1/4" cube of thawed Roggers each morning which the cardinals eat. I also put in 1.5" square of sea veggies each morning on a clip which the angel and foxface munch on through the day.

I have started hatching baby brine for the coming mandarin in quarantine/observation and have refugium rock in the quarantine for him which should be full of mysis also during his observation stay. It's not such a big chore that I can see doing it regularly for the mandarin if necessary.

You should be ok, but baby brine are an excellent supplemental food

The goby will be quarantined elsewhere for 4 weeks before I get it. I would be concerned with that; especially if elsewhere is a LFS

Anything to be concerned about?



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72Gal reef.

Would canary blenny get along with with either the purple or Fridmani psudochromis?


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Would canary blenny get along with with either the purple or Fridmani psudochromis?
complete stocking list? P. fridmani is less aggressive


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complete stocking list?

Not the complete list but the addition that I'm concerned about.

Other inhabitants:

Kole Tang
Two OCC Clowns
BTA
Canary Blenny
Pair of Banggai
Diamond Goby
CUC

I am looking for the vibrant purple color and like the psudos.


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I would be concerned with that; especially if elsewhere is a LFS
It's being quarantined by my super detailed friend who sometimes does it as a service for some of us in the club. He keeps great records, keeps the fisn in dedicated tanks so new arrivals don't get mixed with old, treats with chloroquine phosphate and cupramine if necessary, and gets them healthy and, hopefully, set up for a good transfer into our tank.

He just doesn't have the bandwidth to do something similar for a mandarin with their special needs. I'm hopeful it will turn out all right.

Thanks very much for this thread where we can get easy sanity checks.


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complete stocking list?

Not the complete list but the addition that I'm concerned about.

Other inhabitants:

Kole Tang
Two OCC Clowns
BTA
Canary Blenny
Pair of Banggai
Diamond Goby
CUC

I am looking for the vibrant purple color and like the psudos.
Pseudochromis are aggressive. This thread is designed around predicting behavioral interactions among all inhabitants of a tank.


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It's being quarantined by my super detailed friend who sometimes does it as a service for some of us in the club. He keeps great records, keeps the fisn in dedicated tanks so new arrivals don't get mixed with old, treats with chloroquine phosphate and cupramine if necessary, and gets them healthy and, hopefully, set up for a good transfer into our tank.

He just doesn't have the bandwidth to do something similar for a mandarin with their special needs. I'm hopeful it will turn out all right.

Thanks very much for this thread where we can get easy sanity checks.
In the case you mentioned, with that protocol,l I am confident that the QT will be effective. Thanks.


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Help for a brand new hobbyist

Thanks in advance for your thoughts..

I am brand new to the hobby and am a relative novice. My tank was setup by a buddy that has his own shop and tank maintenance business. I have a 46gal bowfront that is roughly 7 weeks old. I used roughly 35 lbs of sand from an existing tank and it's 2-3 in deep.

55 lbs of live rock, with half being branch coral (Tonga?)
I have a hang on protein skimmer
I have a rectangular canister filter
1 additional powerhead running, and possibly adding another

Current corals:

2 different colonies brown mush coral ( 8 or so coral in each colony, each colony on their own rock-could get rid of one of them)
1 red people eater frag
small colony of fire and ice zoanthid
frag of pulsar zoanthid
1 colony green mushroom coral
small colony star polyps
1 kenya tree coral
1 colony green stripe mushroom coral
1 colony cabbage leather coral
1 small colony button polyps
1 big colony random zoanthid
1 small acan lord brain coral

Fish: 1 pair (not sure if mated, only had 3 days) midnight ocellaris clown. I had a six line wrasse initially for about 3 weeks (my buddy said this would be a great fish) without incident. Once the clowns were added, he attacked the both of them relentlessly (they never fought back) until I researched him and found out he was likely to do exactly that. Caught him and traded him in to my LFS for fish food.

CUC: roughly 14 mixed hermit crabs (1 halloween, 2 blue knuckle, asstd dwarf and cortez)
3 snails (not sure, were hitchhikers from LR or corals)

The fish I am looking to add at the moment(not every one of these, just likely 2-4 of these on this list, depending on your capability thoughts):

Dwarf flame angel or cherub angel
Lawnmower blenny
canary blenny (better than Midas blenny?)
longnose hawkfish
carpenters flasher wrasse
green clown goby
purple firefish


What do you think of that list?


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I'm setting up a 50 cube. I have a pair of maroon clowns that will be going in. Would it be possible to add either/and/or a tang or a dottyback? I'm not married to any particular variety yet or I could just be happy with my two clowns as well.

If I were to add the clowns I could add them last to let the other tank mates get established first.
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