PLEASE check out your intended fish purchases here first!

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by adamlopez00

Thanks in advance for your thoughts..

I am brand new to the hobby and am a relative novice. My tank was setup by a buddy that has his own shop and tank maintenance business. I have a 46gal bowfront that is roughly 7 weeks old. I used roughly 35 lbs of sand from an existing tank and it's 2-3 in deep.

55 lbs of live rock, with half being branch coral (Tonga?)
I have a hang on protein skimmer
I have a rectangular canister filter
1 additional powerhead running, and possibly adding another

Current corals:

2 different colonies brown mush coral ( 8 or so coral in each colony, each colony on their own rock-could get rid of one of them)
1 red people eater frag
small colony of fire and ice zoanthid
frag of pulsar zoanthid
1 colony green mushroom coral
small colony star polyps
1 kenya tree coral
1 colony green stripe mushroom coral
1 colony cabbage leather coral
1 small colony button polyps
1 big colony random zoanthid
1 small acan lord brain coral

Fish: 1 pair (not sure if mated, only had 3 days) midnight ocellaris clown. I had a six line wrasse initially for about 3 weeks (my buddy said this would be a great fish) without incident. Once the clowns were added, he attacked the both of them relentlessly (they never fought back) until I researched him and found out he was likely to do exactly that. Caught him and traded him in to my LFS for fish food. good call, they are a PITA

CUC: roughly 14 mixed hermit crabs (1 halloween, 2 blue knuckle, asstd dwarf and cortez)
3 snails (not sure, were hitchhikers from LR or corals)

The fish I am looking to add at the moment(not every one of these, just likely 2-4 of these on this list, depending on your capability thoughts):

Dwarf flame angel or cherub angel
Lawnmower blenny excellent but only one blenny in this sized tank
canary blenny (better than Midas blenny?)
longnose hawkfish not shrimp safe
carpenters flasher wrasse needs a larger tank
green clown goby fine
purple firefish fine


What do you think of that list?

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by codyjp

I'm setting up a 50 cube. I have a pair of maroon clowns that will be going in.

that species of clownfish will want to control your entire tank once sexually mature

Would it be possible to add either/and/or a tang needs a larger tank, especially a longer tank or a dottyback very aggressive ? I'm not married to any particular variety yet or I could just be happy with my two clowns as well. with this species of clownfish, and perhaps a host anemone and coral, I would not add additional fish

If I were to add the clowns I could add them last to let the other tank mates get established first. would make no difference
Thanks!

[adamlopez00]

Originally Posted by snorvich

The fish I am looking to add at the moment(not every one of these, just likely 2-4 of these on this list, depending on your capability thoughts):

Dwarf flame angel or cherub angel
Lawnmower blenny excellent but only one blenny in this sized tank
canary blenny (better than Midas blenny?)
longnose hawkfish not shrimp safe
carpenters flasher wrasse needs a larger tank
green clown goby fine
purple firefish fine

Thank you so much for your reply. Do you have a preference or think I will have less problems with either the canary blenny vs lawnmower blenny? and dwarf flame angel vs cherub angel? and what about a pygmy wrasse? I really appreciate what you are doing for people in this thread. You're helping a lot of people and saving a lot of mistakes.

Adam

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by adamlopez00

Thank you so much for your reply. Do you have a preference or think I will have less problems with either the canary blenny vs lawnmower blenny?

I think you will enjoy the lawnmower blenny more

and dwarf flame angel vs cherub angel? flame angel is less aggressive


and what about a pygmy wrasse? excellent fish (any of the three species are behaviorally similar)


I really appreciate what you are doing for people in this thread. You're helping a lot of people and saving a lot of mistakes.

Adam

[adamlopez00]

Thanks again, you've been a big help.

Adam

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by adamlopez00

Thanks again, you've been a big help.

Adam

Always a pleasure. Feel free to check back if you have revisions, but remember to refresh my memory of tank and inhabitants.

[axe84]

Currently cycling a 150g tank (72lx24dx21h).

Tank has about 150lb as rock. Also have a 20g refugium and a skimmer.

Here's my intented stocking list.

Carpenter Flasher Wrasse
Chalk Bass
Red Head Solon Fairy Wrasse
Ocellaris Clownfish
Starry Blenny
Orchid Dottyback
Flame Angel
Majestic Angel
Power Blue Tang or Purple Tang

Appreciate your thoughts.

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by axe84

Currently cycling a 150g tank (72lx24dx21h).

Tank has about 150lb as rock. Also have a 20g refugium and a skimmer.

Here's my intented stocking list.

Carpenter Flasher Wrasse
Chalk Bass
Red Head Solon Fairy Wrasse
Ocellaris Clownfish
Starry Blenny
Orchid Dottyback
Flame Angel
Majestic Angel
Power Blue Tang or Purple Tang the PBT may feel more confined in a six foot long tank and whichever tang should be last

Appreciate your thoughts.

except as noted, should be fine

[axe84]

Thank you.

Would adding a Mandarin down the line work?

If so, should it be before the tang?

[Toxic Slurpee]

Tank is a standard 90 gallon. Current inhabitants:

Yellow headed Jawfish
Chalkbass
Mandarin
Royal Gramma
Tailspot Blenny
Flasher Wrasse

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Could I add a mystery wrasse to the group? Or would he & the flasher wrasse duke it out?

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by axe84

Thank you.

Would adding a Mandarin down the line work?

If so, should it be before the tang?

It would work; tank would need to be about 8 months mature

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by Toxic Slurpee

Tank is a standard 90 gallon. Current inhabitants:

Yellow headed Jawfish
Chalkbass
Mandarin
Royal Gramma
Tailspot Blenny
Flasher Wrasse

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Could I add a mystery wrasse to the group? Or would he & the flasher wrasse duke it out?

Not compatible with either the flasher wrasses or mandarin

[Abertuco]

Hi I just upgraded from a 30g to a 75 with a 30g sump. I have 2 true Percula clowns, a blue damsel, and a bicolor dotty back in the tank now with a med cuc of snails and hermits also a small colony of zoas a ricordea mushroom and a blue mushroom. I know I want a orange diamond goby also plan on a Maderine once the tank matures. My wife wants some really colorful fish and I want one or two bigger fish any suggestions

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by Abertuco

Hi I just upgraded from a 30g to a 75 with a 30g sump. I have 2 true Percula clowns, a blue damsel, and a bicolor dotty back in the tank now

that will limit what fish you can keep due to its aggressive nature

with a med cuc of snails and hermits also a small colony of zoas a ricordea mushroom and a blue mushroom. I know I want a orange diamond goby which will be fine


also plan on a Maderine once the tank matures. My wife wants some really colorful fish and I want one or two bigger fish any suggestions

As those who follow this thread know, I do not provide recommendations for a variety of reasons. I am always happy to review stocking lists, however, as long as tank size is also provided.

[Abertuco]

Also my son wants a blue hippo tang (dory) and what about a flame angle for my wife

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by Abertuco

Also my son wants a blue hippo tang (dory) requires a much larger (longer) tank


and what about a flame angle for my wife the damsel may or may not allow that

[Abertuco]

I was thinking about getting rid of the damsel and how big of a tank does the tang need

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by Abertuco

I was thinking about getting rid of the damsel in that case, fine


and how big of a tank does the tang need Reef Central suggests an 8 foot 240 gallon tank (the fish gets mean when mature, and grows quickly to over a foot). Sadly the film has resulted in the the mistreatment of many a P. hepatus

[Abertuco]

I was also looking at a common cleaner wrasse but I don't know much about them

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by Abertuco

I was also looking at a common cleaner wrasse but I don't know much about them

Several things:

+ They do nothing to prevent parasites
+ Their survival rate in aquaria is poor
+ Not all fish will allow cleaning
+ One with best survival rate is from Africa and consequently more expensive

[Toxic Slurpee]

Originally Posted by snorvich

Not compatible with either the flasher wrasses or mandarin

What niche does the mandarin occupy with the mystery wrasse? Or are they just known to hate each other?

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by Toxic Slurpee

What niche does the mandarin occupy with the mystery wrasse? Or are they just known to hate each other?

Both are consumers of copepods which in a very large tank may be a non-issue. However the question was asked with regard to a tank size that is marginal for a mandarin. Mystery wrasses can be aggressive towards shrimp, some other wrasses, mandarins and potentially pseudochromis. Pretty fish, but can be on the aggressive side.

[ReefWhatYouSow]

Hey everyone! I'm new to the hobby and would appreciate any direction that can be given. I inherited a 20 gallon tank that was had 3 pieces of like rock, 2 ocellaris (one orange and white, and one black and white), and a round headed goby (sand sifter). I've had the tank running for the last two months.

I've been in the process of changing it over to a small reef tank. I have switched the live rock around by adding tonga rock and branches (probably takes up about 25% of the tank). I got rid of the goby cause he was dumping sand all over the place which would be a pain with corals. I have added a few small corals that were given to me; green hairy mushroom, red mushroom (frag), blue mushrooms (on small rock), some polyps (on small rock), paly grandis (frag), and green trumpet (frag).

My neighbor and I built some leds (18 inches long, four blue, four white, one green, and one red).

In addition to the 2 clowns that I have in there, I have 2 red legged hermits, 3 blue legged, 2 turbo snails, 2 Nessarius snails, 5 Cerith snails, and one that spends most of its time under sand (has a shovel like face and long shell). There is also one small crown conch and one fighting conch, and a good sized blood shrimp (approx. 3 inches).

In addition my salinity is at 0.125%, phosphates near 0, nitrates and ammonia at 0.

I would like to add more fish to the tank, but I do not want to overcrowd. The two clowns stay at the top near the filter (wish they swam around more). I would really like a six-line wrasse cause they stay small, they're cheap, and fun to look at but I heard that you want to introduce them last. Not sure if I could add two (maybe one male and one female). Maybe I can add something else before the wrasse? Maybe Firefish, Dottyback, Royal Gramma Basslet?

Any advice on the fish and corals that I might be able to add would be great! The wife says if I keep everything alive for the next year or two then I can get my large tank built into the wall

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by ReefWhatYouSow

Hey everyone! I'm new to the hobby and would appreciate any direction that can be given. I inherited a 20 gallon tank that was had 3 pieces of like rock, 2 ocellaris (one orange and white, and one black and white), and a round headed goby (sand sifter). I've had the tank running for the last two months.

actually, a tank of this size would be overstocked if you added more fish especially once the clownfish are sexually mature and mating

I've been in the process of changing it over to a small reef tank. I have switched the live rock around by adding tonga rock and branches (probably takes up about 25% of the tank). I got rid of the goby cause he was dumping sand all over the place which would be a pain with corals. I have added a few small corals that were given to me; green hairy mushroom, red mushroom (frag), blue mushrooms (on small rock), some polyps (on small rock), paly grandis (frag), and green trumpet (frag).

My neighbor and I built some leds (18 inches long, four blue, four white, one green, and one red).

In addition to the 2 clowns that I have in there, I have 2 red legged hermits, 3 blue legged, 2 turbo snails, 2 Nessarius snails, 5 Cerith snails, and one that spends most of its time under sand (has a shovel like face and long shell). There is also one small crown conch and one fighting conch.

I would like to add more fish to the tank, but I do not want to overcrowd. The two clowns stay at the top near the filter (wish they swam around more). I would really like a six-line wrasse cause they stay small, they're cheap, and fun to look at but I heard that you want to introduce them last.

they are exceptionally aggressive, especially in a small tank

Not sure if I could add two (maybe one male and one female). Maybe I can add something else before the wrasse? Maybe Firefish, Dottyback, Royal Gramma Basslet?

Any advice on the fish and corals that I might be able to add would be great! The wife says if I keep everything alive for the next year or two then I can get my large tank built into the wall

well, with that as an incentive, I would not add fish

[ReefWhatYouSow]

well, with that as an incentive, I would not add fish

haha... Thank you for your advice Steve! I definitely want to have a great outcome with this tank. Do you think it is possible to add an anemone for the clowns to host? Maybe I can bring them down out of the top of the tank. And do you think it is possible for them to breed in this type of setup? Even with one being orange and the other black?