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Unread 04/23/2014, 06:34 AM   #10326
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Stock list for a friends 180 tank

Hi, here is a stock list that needs some feedback... Thanks to all your support

Here's my friends stock list (he wants most of the fish I had & more! spoke him out of a few...but lets see what you guys think of the list)

Its a 180 gallon tank (total water volume 230). Plan to add the grazers once the tank is really mature.

1 Blue Chromis
1 green Chromis
1 Banggai Cardinal
1 Midas Blenny
1 Yellow watchman goby with shrimp
1 Flame hawk
1 one spot foxface

2 Occy clowns (paired)
2 Yellow headed jawfish
2 Royal grammas

1 Blue Tang (needs a bigger tank for long term)
1 Yellow Tang
1 Powder Brown Tang

1 Flame Angel
1 Coral beauty Angel

3-5 Lyretail Anthias

Any other fish species that could be added given the bioload etc?

Let me know your comments/ thoughts. Thanks again.



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Hi, here is a stock list that needs some feedback... Thanks to all your support

Here's my friends stock list (he wants most of the fish I had & more! spoke him out of a few...but lets see what you guys think of the list)

actually this thread is answered only by reef central staff; for general comments post in the reef fish forum.

Its a 180 gallon tank (total water volume 230). Plan to add the grazers once the tank is really mature.

1 Blue Chromis chromis have been coming in frequently with uronema marinum so I am leery of advocating chromis
1 green Chromis
1 Banggai Cardinal tank raised only
1 Midas Blenny
1 Yellow watchman goby with shrimp
1 Flame hawk
1 one spot foxface

2 Occy clowns (paired)
2 Yellow headed jawfish
2 Royal grammas

1 Blue Tang (needs a bigger tank for long term)
1 Yellow Tang must be last fish added
1 Powder Brown Tang I do not think three tangs, one of which is P. heptus are desirable in a six foot tank

1 Flame Angel
1 Coral beauty Angel

3-5 Lyretail Anthias

Any other fish species that could be added given the bioload etc?

Let me know your comments/ thoughts. Thanks again.
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Unread 04/23/2014, 09:37 AM   #10328
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Adding to an existing 190

I currently have a purple tang (a rescue recovering quite well from hlle), a naked ocellaris clownfish, a red firefish and a royal gramma. They have been in this 190 for roughly four months.

I'm wanting to add

5 small female lyretail anthias

1 matted filefish for aiptasia control (yes I know he could wreck some of my lps but I think I'm willing to chance it since aiptasia control is a full time job and I've read they are fairly easy to catch)

1 yellow prawn goby

1 barnacle blenny

I feel like this would be a nice addition without increasing the bio load too much. As it is currently, just one pemysis cube will feed my fish about three times in a day.
Currently my phosphates are at 0.00-0.07 and nitrates near 1.0.

Very established 65 QT tank at 1.020 sg with 1/4" screen tops on qt and dt.
No jumping allowed.

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I currently have a purple tang (a rescue recovering quite well from hlle), a naked ocellaris clownfish, a red firefish and a royal gramma. They have been in this 190 for roughly four months.

I'm wanting to add

5 small female lyretail anthias

1 matted filefish for aiptasia control (yes I know he could wreck some of my lps but I think I'm willing to chance it since aiptasia control is a full time job and I've read they are fairly easy to catch) some eat aiptasia, others do not

1 yellow prawn goby

1 barnacle blenny be sure to urchase a barnacle or two.

I feel like this would be a nice addition without increasing the bio load too much. As it is currently, just one pemysis cube will feed my fish about three times in a day.
Currently my phosphates are at 0.00-0.07 and nitrates near 1.0.

Very established 65 QT tank at 1.020 sg with 1/4" screen tops on qt and dt.
No jumping allowed.

Any input is much appreciated.
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Unread 04/23/2014, 09:47 AM   #10330
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Fine with annotations.
Thanks. Should I just buy a dead barnacle cluster? I'm guessing the natural caves and crevices in my rock work not be sufficient.


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Thanks. Should I just buy a dead barnacle cluster? I'm guessing the natural caves and crevices in my rock work not be sufficient.
I would get a couple. And if it were me, I would get more than one barnacle blenny.


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Unread 04/23/2014, 10:15 AM   #10332
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I would get a couple. And if it were me, I would get more than one barnacle blenny.
Will do. Knowing my stocking list, how many blennies would you recommend? I really don't plan on adding fish to the system again after this so I want to hook it up right. Thanks again.


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Unread 04/23/2014, 11:05 AM   #10333
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I would get a couple. And if it were me, I would get more than one barnacle blenny.
Is there anything I need to do before I introduce the barnacles or just rinse them off in RO/DI and put them in my QT.


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Will do. Knowing my stocking list, how many blennies would you recommend? I really don't plan on adding fish to the system again after this so I want to hook it up right. Thanks again.
I would get three. As for rinsing, being paranoid, I would rinse with RO water and let soak for 5 minutes or so, then let dry.


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I would get three. As for rinsing, being paranoid, I would rinse with RO water and let soak for 5 minutes or so, then let dry.
Perfect! I'm on it. Many thanks.


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Perfect! I'm on it. Many thanks.
They are really cool fish. You will be pleased!!


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Unread 04/23/2014, 04:50 PM   #10337
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Hi Steve!

Still considering inhabitants of the 225 gallon mixed reef that I'm planning.

72" x 27" x 27".

I realize that this is a BIG list with a lot of bioload, but I'm planning on excellent filtration and frequent water changes.

Here goes:

Yellow tang
Kole tang
Hippo tang
Purple tang
(Please note that all tangs would go in at the same time, as the very last additions to the tank).

A pair of percula clownfish
Flame angel
Blue throat trigger
Exquisite wrasse
Carpenters flasher wrasse
Hoevens wrasse
Cleaner common wrasse
Longfin fairy wrasse
Whip fin fairy wrasse
A trio of spotted cardinalfish
A trio of anthias (all female, to be determined)
Bicolor blenny
Tailspot blenny
Mandarin (after 9-12 months of tank maturity)
Tangaroa goby
Orange spotted goby
A trio of black axis chromis
Purple firefish (planning to have this as my very first fish)
Royal gramma
Court jester goby
Zebra barred dartfish
Blue dot jawfish
Yellow headed jawfish
Orchid dottyback - tank bred

Any that you would absolutely avoid? Any advice would be much appreciated.

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Unread 04/23/2014, 05:36 PM   #10338
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Hi Steve!

Still considering inhabitants of the 225 gallon mixed reef that I'm planning.

72" x 27" x 27".

I realize that this is a BIG list with a lot of bioload, but I'm planning on excellent filtration and frequent water changes.

Here goes:

Yellow tang
Kole tang
Hippo tang needs a larger (longer) tank
Purple tang
(Please note that all tangs would go in at the same time, as the very last additions to the tank). I would definitely not put 4 tangs in a six foot tank. If you subtract the P. hepatus, it might work.

A pair of percula clownfish
Flame angel
Blue throat trigger not invert safe
Exquisite wrasse
Carpenters flasher wrasse
Hoevens wrasse
Cleaner common wrasse unless it is the African endemic, the survival rate is poor
Longfin fairy wrasse aggressive
Whip fin fairy wrasse aggressive
A trio of spotted cardinalfish
A trio of anthias (all female, to be determined)
Bicolor blenny
Tailspot blenny
Mandarin (after 9-12 months of tank maturity)
Tangaroa goby
Orange spotted goby
A trio of black axis chromis chromis are hiughly susceptible to uronema marinum
Purple firefish (planning to have this as my very first fish) you have aggressive fish that are likely to intimidate it
Royal gramma
Court jester goby
Zebra barred dartfish
Blue dot jawfish needs cooler tempertures
Yellow headed jawfish
Orchid dottyback - tank bred a problem with fairy or flasher wrasses

Any that you would absolutely avoid? Any advice would be much appreciated. I would not put this many fish in this sized tank; it is not a bioload issue so much as it being a bit "busy"

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Unread 04/23/2014, 05:59 PM   #10339
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Here it goes:

tank 50 gallon 36" long, sump with skimmer, set up 3 years, ample liverock, minimal coral,

existing fish: flame hawk, 6line wrasse, ocellaris clown, banggaii cardinal, royal gramma.

wanting to add: neon goby (I know they won't pick off parasites), bicolor angel, what do you think?

I have a question nobody seems to be able to answer: do dwarf angels need any kind of sea sponge in their diet? I see commercially prepared foods with sponge labeled for angels, will they even eat it?


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Unread 04/23/2014, 07:14 PM   #10340
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Hi
90 gallon tank mixed reef
3 month old tank

Current live stock
1. Firefish
2. Purple firefish
3. Coral beauty
4. Mckosker wrasse
5. 2 clown fish ( Ocellaris ) tank bread
6. Pijama cardinal
7. Chizle tooth wrasse
8. 2 Banggai*cardinals (tank bread)
9. By color blenny
10. Red Head Solon Fairy Wrasse (female)
11. 2 dwarf coral bandit shrimp (mated)
12. Sand sifting star fish
13. Long spine sea urchin
14. a bunch of snails (10)
15. 5 blue leg crabs
16. Hermit crab
17. I have a goby but I can't I'd him
He is white with stripes.

Was thinking of a blue tang as the final piece.

But would consider input on the fish selection and what is and isn't going to become one after a while.

Also which is more beneficial. Crabs or snails?


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Here it goes:

tank 50 gallon 36" long, sump with skimmer, set up 3 years, ample liverock, minimal coral,

existing fish: flame hawk, 6line wrasse, ocellaris clown, banggaii cardinal, royal gramma. six line is aggressive and could impact royal gramma; not necessarily so, but possible

wanting to add: neon goby (I know they won't pick off parasites), short lived, but nice fish
bicolor angel, what do you think?

I have a question nobody seems to be able to answer: do dwarf angels need any kind of sea sponge in their diet? I see commercially prepared foods with sponge labeled for angels, will they even eat it?
Dwarf angels do not require sponge in their diet; they may eat angel formula or similar but it is not necessary. They do require "greens" either from the tank or supplied via nori


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Hi
90 gallon tank mixed reef
3 month old tank

Current live stock
1. Firefish only one will survive longer term
2. Purple firefish only one will survive longer term
3. Coral beauty
4. Mckosker wrasse
5. 2 clown fish ( Ocellaris ) tank bread
6. Pijama cardinal
7. Chizle tooth wrasse difficult fish; needs larger tank
8. 2 Banggai*cardinals (tank bread)
9. By color blenny
10. Red Head Solon Fairy Wrasse (female)
11. 2 dwarf coral bandit shrimp (mated)
12. Sand sifting star fish will starve eventually
13. Long spine sea urchin
14. a bunch of snails (10)
15. 5 blue leg crabs hermit crabs kill snails
16. Hermit crab
17. I have a goby but I can't I'd him
He is white with stripes.

Was thinking of a blue tang as the final piece. requires a much larger (longer) tank

But would consider input on the fish selection and what is and isn't going to become one after a while.

Also which is more beneficial. Crabs or snails? a variety of snails is better than crabs




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Unread 04/23/2014, 08:35 PM   #10343
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Hello. Here is a pic of the tank in case it would help with your analysis.

https://i.imgur.com/DTrtlfu.jpg

Size: 55 gallons w/ 10 gallon sump
Filtration: 40 to 50 pounds of Live Rock + Good skimmer
Extra info:
  • Bare bottom and don't plan on having sand.
  • No lid and don't plan on having one.
  • The tank is ~2 years old but it had a MASSIVE overhaul 2 months ago where I removed all the sand and replaced all the rock so all my copepods and amphipods are gone. I will be buying a hang on back refugium and will be seeding it in about a month.


Fish:
  • 1 Ocellaris Clownfish (Amphiprion ocellaris)
  • 1 Green Mandarin (Synchiropus splendidus)
  • 1 Kaudern's Cardinal - Tank-Bred (Pterapogon kauderni)
  • 1 Midas Blenny (Ecsenius midas)

MAYBE
  • 1 McCosker's Flasher Wrasse (Paracheilinus mccoskeri)

I'm open to any suggestions.


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Would adding a dragonet to the tank in the future be a problem?

Also will the Chizle tooth wrasse eat most of the crabs once it becomes an adult??


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Hello. Here is a pic of the tank in case it would help with your analysis.

https://i.imgur.com/DTrtlfu.jpg

Size: 55 gallons w/ 10 gallon sump
Filtration: 40 to 50 pounds of Live Rock + Good skimmer
Extra info:
  • Bare bottom and don't plan on having sand.
  • No lid and don't plan on having one.
  • The tank is ~2 years old but it had a MASSIVE overhaul 2 months ago where I removed all the sand and replaced all the rock so all my copepods and amphipods are gone. I will be buying a hang on back refugium and will be seeding it in about a month.


Fish:
  • 1 Ocellaris Clownfish (Amphiprion ocellaris)
  • 1 Green Mandarin (Synchiropus splendidus) will not survive long term without exceptional efforts
  • 1 Kaudern's Cardinal - Tank-Bred (Pterapogon kauderni)
  • 1 Midas Blenny (Ecsenius midas)

MAYBE
  • 1 McCosker's Flasher Wrasse (Paracheilinus mccoskeri)
not without a cover

I'm open to any suggestions.



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Would adding a dragonet to the tank in the future be a problem? it would be risky because your tank size, while marginally ok, has other copepod eaters

Also will the Chizle tooth wrasse eat most of the crabs once it becomes an adult??
yes, if it becomes an adult. Remember, these are difficult fish to maintain


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180 gal tank (72x24x24), 75 gal sump, over 200#'s LR, 4" sand bed. System running since Nov. last year @ 5 months

Current tank amtes:

Blonda Naso Tang (Understand needs to be in larger tank)
Yellow Tang
Coral Beauty
Blue/Green Chromis
Pair cinnamon Clownfish
Bi Color Blenny
Pair of Diamond watchman Gobies
Lawnmower Blenny

Considered additions:

Rusty Angel
Majestic Angel or Annularis Angel

2 Mandarin Dragonet - Green - Male and Female Duo, after 9+ months (will they survive with others in tank)

Thanks for your time and efforts.


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180 gal tank (72x24x24), 75 gal sump, over 200#'s LR, 4" sand bed. System running since Nov. last year @ 5 months

Current tank amtes:

Blonda Naso Tang (Understand needs to be in larger tank)
Yellow Tang
Coral Beauty
Blue/Green Chromis
Pair cinnamon Clownfish
Bi Color Blenny
Pair of Diamond watchman Gobies
Lawnmower Blenny

Considered additions:

Rusty Angel
Majestic Angel or Annularis Angel the yellow tang may make this difficult

2 Mandarin Dragonet - Green - Male and Female Duo, after 9+ months (will they survive with others in tank) should be fine

Thanks for your time and efforts.



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Can you specify what you mean by "exceptional efforts" with regards to the mandarin?

Also do you have any suggestions for a flashy looking fish I can put in there that doesn't need a cover?


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Can you specify what you mean by "exceptional efforts" with regards to the mandarin?

Also do you have any suggestions for a flashy looking fish I can put in there that doesn't need a cover?
Mandarins eat constantly which means that in order to survive long term, there needs to be a source of copepods. Normally this would mean a mature 75 gallon tank (9 months) with no copepod eaters in the tank. Since this is not a discussion thread, do a search and you will see various points of view on this subject.

All fish can jump. Some fish have a greater proclivity for jumping (such as wrasses). I do not provide recommendations for a variety of reasons, but would be happy to reanalyze any perspective stocking plan.




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