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Unread 04/29/2014, 09:35 AM   #10426
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It is 125 litres

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Unread 04/29/2014, 09:35 AM   #10427
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Firefish will coexist for a while; in the long run only one will survive because the dominant one will intimidate the other.

Thanks. That's a bummer... guess I shouldn't add the Helfrichi.


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Unread 04/29/2014, 10:39 AM   #10428
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Yeah I was surprised for it to be so low. Not cool. I think the nepthia would make it but it would really stress it. I'm drip acclimating the fish like I used to do. In an hours time I will bring it up from 1.016 to 1.020. I hope everyone will be okay with it.
that is awfully fast!


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Unread 04/29/2014, 10:45 AM   #10429
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I currently have a juwel rio 125 set up for tropical fish and I want to convert it to marine. To do this I plan to remove the juwel filter box add 15kg of live rock, a juwel skimmer, marine lighting and a few power heads (keeping the juwel heater I have currently). Anything missing?

now that I have tank size . . .
Once my tank is set up I would like to keep a pair of clowns depending on species, that may be all your tank can handle
, a tang needs a larger tank
and a few shrimp snails etc.

Obviously I would hope to keep more than this. I have heard of gobies and shrimp teaming up? Is this just specific species of goby and shrimp? these are commensal shrimp gobies and alpheus randall pistol shrimp

Does anyone have any suggestions of other fish to go with this stock?

Will possibly keep soft corals to

Sorry for long post, want to make sure I get this right



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Unread 04/29/2014, 10:57 AM   #10430
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that is awfully fast!
agreed. that was a bad estimate. it's been two hours and I'm at 1.020 and need to get to 1.021 so it shouldn't be much longer. fish are doing great (as far as I can tell of course) and I've been dumping the water as I go. 1.016?!


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Unread 04/29/2014, 11:12 AM   #10431
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Have a 150g Marineland dual corner overflow tank with a 40g breeder sump. Probably 150-200lbs of rock in DT. Another 10-15 in the fuge. Working with a SKIMZ SM161 skimmer, an XL aquamaxx bio pellet reactor and a BRS single GFO reactor.

Currently I have:
Yellow tang
Christmas wrasse
Melanurus wrasse
Red coris wrasse
2 chromis
Male blue throat trigger
Green clown goby
Pink watchman goby
2 occy clowns

What I want to add:
Achilles tang(?)
Blonde naso tang
female blue throat trigger
trio of anthias(type to be determined)


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Unread 04/29/2014, 11:16 AM   #10432
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Have a 150g Marineland dual corner overflow tank with a 40g breeder sump. Probably 150-200lbs of rock in DT. Another 10-15 in the fuge. Working with a SKIMZ SM161 skimmer, an XL aquamaxx bio pellet reactor and a BRS single GFO reactor.

Currently I have:
Yellow tang
Christmas wrasse
Melanurus wrasse
Red coris wrasse
2 chromis
Male blue throat trigger
Green clown goby
Pink watchman goby
2 occy clowns

What I want to add:
Achilles tang(?) will be difficult with an established yellow tang
Blonde naso tang needs a much larger (longer) tank
female blue throat trigger
trio of anthias(type to be determined) anthias do best with multiple feedings per day



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Unread 04/29/2014, 02:59 PM   #10433
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Hi Steve... Still tinkering with the list for my 75g. I've added the first fish on the list, and have the second in quarantine. #3 was going to be a bangaii cardinal, but I've decided that they seem boring. So here's the list and below are some ideas for one last fish to add to the mix. Thoughts?

1. Blue Gudgeon Dartfish (in tank)

2. Purple Firefish (in quarantine)

3. Royal Gramma

4. Pair of Ocellaris Clownfish

5. Exquisite Fairy Wrasse or Orange-Back Fairy Wrasse (or some other fairy wrasse)

6. Kole Tang

Plus one (or both?) of these?

One Spot Foxface
Midas Blenny

I love the foxface, but do plan to keep corals in the tank. Also not sure if the foxface + tang will be too much.



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Unread 04/29/2014, 03:41 PM   #10434
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Hi Steve... Still tinkering with the list for my 75g. I've added the first fish on the list, and have the second in quarantine. #3 was going to be a bangaii cardinal, but I've decided that they seem boring. So here's the list and below are some ideas for one last fish to add to the mix. Thoughts?

1. Blue Gudgeon Dartfish (in tank)

2. Purple Firefish (in quarantine)

3. Royal Gramma

4. Pair of Ocellaris Clownfish while clownfish become territorial when a bonded pair, a single one will become female and be equally territorial. They are interesting to some people

5. Exquisite Fairy Wrasse or Lineatus Fairy Wrasse

6. Kole Tang

Plus one more fish from this list?

One Spot Foxface foxface is reef safe if well fed; if not well fed it will munch on corals for the zooxanthellae.
Midas Blenny
Some sort of Anthias

I love the foxface, but do plan to keep corals in the tank. Also not sure if the foxface + tang will be too much. it should be ok, but be sure the tang is last introduced

And people seem to be recommending a pair of clowns instead of a single one. Would you agree this is a better choice? the end result will be the same as far as impact on the tank mates



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Ok to add yellow tang?

I have a 100g community tank with
- 4 chromis
- 2 ocellaris clowns
- 1 orange diamond watchman goby
- 1 royal gramma
- 1 azure damsel
- 1 flame angel

Am I likely to have problems if I add a yellow tang?


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I have a 100g community tank with
- 4 chromis
- 2 ocellaris clowns
- 1 orange diamond watchman goby
- 1 royal gramma
- 1 azure damsel
- 1 flame angel

Am I likely to have problems if I add a yellow tang?
if it is the last fish you add, it should be ok; later additions may not be tolerated by an established yellow tang


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Thank you. No problem keeping the foxface well fed! Would adding the foxface and midas blenny be too much overall?

For instance, this (and in this order)?

1. Blue Gudgeon Dartfish (in tank)

2. Purple Firefish (in quarantine)

3. Midas Blenny

4. Foxface

5. Royal Gramma

6. Pair of Ocellaris Clownfish

7. Fairy Wrasse

8. Kole Tang


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Unread 04/29/2014, 03:48 PM   #10438
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Thank you. No problem keeping the foxface well fed! Would adding the foxface and midas blenny be too much overall?

For instance, this (and in this order)?

1. Blue Gudgeon Dartfish (in tank)

2. Purple Firefish (in quarantine)

3. Midas Blenny

4. Foxface

5. Royal Gramma

6. Pair of Ocellaris Clownfish

7. Fairy Wrasse

8. Kole Tang
midas blennies can nip the fins of planktivores and since you will have two algae grazers, I would not add another algae eater.


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midas blennies can nip the fins of planktivores and since you will have two algae grazers, I would not add another algae eater.
Good to know - will leave the midas blenny out. Thanks!


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if it is the last fish you add, it should be ok; later additions may not be tolerated by an established yellow tang
Go raith maith agat Steve


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Unread 04/29/2014, 06:08 PM   #10441
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75g reef tank, 35g sump.

present inhabitants are:
various inverts/corals
1 orange spotted goby
1 royal gramma
2 snowflake clowns
2 longnosed hawkfish (i know you told me this isn't something you have done but after talking to several people who had good luck, i decided to go for it. took the new one out of qt sunday, put him in an acclimation box for the day, released him later in the evening. there was a little chasing, no nipping, and that stopped quickly...less than a minute. they are getting along great and are so cute together! the new one is about half the size of the first one).


i have been looking at wrasses all day today (slow day at the office, yay). with your input, i have narrowed it down to a carpenter's flasher wrasse and a red-lined wrasse. looked at them on liveaquaria and they seem to be good community fish. can i put them both in together?

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75g reef tank, 35g sump.

present inhabitants are:
various inverts/corals
1 orange spotted goby
1 royal gramma
2 snowflake clowns
2 longnosed hawkfish (i know you told me this isn't something you have done but after talking to several people who had good luck, i decided to go for it. took the new one out of qt sunday, put him in an acclimation box for the day, released him later in the evening. there was a little chasing, no nipping, and that stopped quickly...less than a minute. they are getting along great and are so cute together! the new one is about half the size of the first one).

Glad it worked. I hate to say yes on a question unless I am pretty sure. I do love that fish though as they are incredibly personable.


i have been looking at wrasses all day today (slow day at the office, yay). with your input, i have narrowed it down to a carpenter's flasher wrasse and a red-lined wrasse. looked at them on liveaquaria and they seem to be good community fish. can i put them both in together?

Yes, they should work but note that they are both prolific jumpers so you need 1/4 inch mesh to keep them in. Note well, however that all Halichoeres including the red-lined wrasse, are not invert safe; they do, however, prey on undesirable inverts as well.

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Hello tank size is 65 with 40 sump and reef octopus nwb 150 skimmer.

Inhabitants:
1 fuzzy dwarf Lion

Wondering about adding
Snowflake EEL
or Leopard Wrasse

Any other ideas would be greatly helpful

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Hello tank size is 65 with 40 sump and reef octopus nwb 150 skimmer.

Inhabitants:
1 fuzzy dwarf Lion

Wondering about adding
Snowflake EEL
or Leopard Wrasse

Any other ideas would be greatly helpful

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Sorry, I do not provide analysis of community aggressive or predator tanks. We have a forum where that question should get lots of attention. It can be found here.


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yup, they have the best personalities! i have been watching these 2 fish all evening. one perches on the power head, the other perches on the magnet that holds the power head. they switch places every few minutes but they are never far from each other. pretty darn cute!

i have a glass top so jumpers aren't a problem.

when you say they are not invert safe, do you mean not safe with anything they can get into their mouths? i only have the one cleaner shrimp, my other inverts are brittle stars, and the soon-to-be cuc of various snails i'll be getting in a couple of days.


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Here it goes:

tank 50 gallon 36" long, sump with skimmer, set up 3 years, ample liverock, minimal coral, my clean-up crew takes care of the impact of excess nutrients from feeding heavy--it helps by keeping the fish peaceful.

existing fish: flame hawk, 6line wrasse, ocellaris clown, banggaii cardinal, royal gramma, neon goby, bicolor angel

wanting to add:

purple pseudochromis or
Hoeven's wrasse or
another dwarf angel, maybe swallowtail angel female, Genicanthus melanospilos or
golden dwarf morey

I don't want to add but one or two more. what do you think?

I've read two dwarf angels can live in small tanks, how about two small wrasses?

I've had my bicolor angel for 3 weeks and haven't seen it eat fish food, what can I do? It does pick at the rock and what little hair algae is in there.

Can the GDM be fed live freshwater feeder shrimp and can they be put live in the display tank in small quantities instead of feeding on a skuwer?


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yup, they have the best personalities! i have been watching these 2 fish all evening. one perches on the power head, the other perches on the magnet that holds the power head. they switch places every few minutes but they are never far from each other. pretty darn cute!

i have a glass top so jumpers aren't a problem.

when you say they are not invert safe, do you mean not safe with anything they can get into their mouths? i only have the one cleaner shrimp, my other inverts are brittle stars, and the soon-to-be cuc of various snails i'll be getting in a couple of days.
cleaner shrimp are at risk with any hawkfish. Brittle stars should be fine. Snails should be fine, hermits not.


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Here it goes:

tank 50 gallon 36" long, sump with skimmer, set up 3 years, ample liverock, minimal coral, my clean-up crew takes care of the impact of excess nutrients from feeding heavy--it helps by keeping the fish peaceful.

existing fish: flame hawk, 6line wrasse, ocellaris clown, banggaii cardinal, royal gramma, neon goby, bicolor angel

wanting to add:

purple pseudochromis or no, too aggressive with existing
Hoeven's wrasse or sixline may not tolerate
another dwarf angel, maybe swallowtail angel female, no, not with another dwarf in this sized tank Genicanthus melanospilos or any Genicanthus needs a much large tank
golden dwarf morey perhaps, but feeding is required and I have not kept this animal

I don't want to add but one or two more. what do you think?

I've read two dwarf angels can live in small tanks, how about two small wrasses?

I've had my bicolor angel for 3 weeks and haven't seen it eat fish food, what can I do? It does pick at the rock and what little hair algae is in there. they are one of the more difficult

Can the GDM be fed live freshwater feeder shrimp and can they be put live in the display tank in small quantities instead of feeding on a skuwer?
Basically you are constrained by tank size and existing inhabitants.


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