Warner Marine Now Has A Pellet Product

[tmz]

FWIW,Maroaglae in my system slows it's growth at low PO4 levels( under 0.1ppm) but stays healthy as long as the PO4 is at or above 0.03ppm; usually .04 or .05ppm in my system.
While you can grow pods and other fauna without macro; it is very useful for night time oxygenation,imo.
Have no idea why seriatopora would be uniquely harmed by the by products/ reactions form pellet use .Perhaps ,their symbiont bacteria react in a pathogenic way to the sugars if any are in the water. Or maybe ,they just don't adjust well to variable N levels.
Anecdotally some knowlegable reefers have noted seriatopora sensitivity to high NO3 in the past,so I suppose in a bit of a reach that the reverse,ie rapidly lower N might stress them at least until they aclimate.FWIW. mine do very well with very low but steady NO3(<0.2 ppm) and PO4( 0.04ppm),almost 2yrs into dosing vodka and vinegar.

[DJREEF]

Originally Posted by Big E

Yeah, that's possible or it could be both. My point was that the pellets aren't directly causing the Mg decrease & 1100 level is a non issue.

Right

DJ

[swissgaurd]

well its going on 3 months
and all i have to add is my coraline algae has bloomed,sps still doing well.
im having to clean my glass 2wice a week,have only one problem,red algae on my sand bed.the tank has been running for 9yrs without any red algae.
i tried to get some pottassium nitrate from ebay but canada wont let it through customs,got sent back,im going to try my pharmasist ,see what he can do. ive dosed microbactor 7 now for 3 weeks.
a couple weeks ago i watched the red algae lift off the sand, i siphoned it all up but then slowly came back again.
i think if i cant get the pottassium nitrate im going to try the redslime remover.

has anyone tried the redslime remover with the pellets.

vic

[jason2459]

Isn't redslime removers a type of antibiotic? I don't think I would touch it in a system that is driving higher levels of bacteria.

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[swissgaurd]

i am leery on trying this stuff but i dont know what else to do after 20 yrs plus of keeping marines im stumped

[Safedad]

I found the probiotics take care of hair algae and Zeozym takes care of the cyano

[langtudatinh01]

so, iam in the 4th week of biopellet. my birdnest is not completely bleach or die, but i start to notice my acan is receding. my PH has been swinging since using biopellet (vary between 8.1 to 8.5 or higher). and my alk, magnesium is not stable. i run 250 ml of biopellets for a 50 gallons system. does anyone have this issue? my sump was cracked so i move everything into a plastic container since. Could this is a source of the problem? i did not change my reef keeping routine since change to biopellet. water paremeter had always stable before. Does anyone have any suggestions? thanks.

[solitude127]

For those have used Vodka, sugar or vinegar and now use BioPellets, how would you compare the outcome (assuming you've been using the pellets for more than a month)?

[poolkeeper1]

Originally Posted by solitude127

For those have used Vodka, sugar or vinegar and now use BioPellets, how would you compare the outcome (assuming you've been using the pellets for more than a month)?

I have been using them before the release to the public and i also dosed Vodka for many years. IME the pellets are superior in several ways, Convenience being #1 and the long term cost #2 then down to the fact that they work as advertised IMO my Po4 is very low 0-4 PPB i no longer test for Nitrate as it always shows 0 and i do not want to get in the formula trap that seems to be the trend as of late. My tank looks as good as it did when using Vodka and i do none of the work i did before other than the occasional test with the Hanna meter to verify my readings. IME the key is let it have the time it takes to colonize the pellets and have the proper amount for your bio load and let then work.
Bill

[DJREEF]

Originally Posted by poolkeeper1

I have been using them before the release to the public and i also dosed Vodka for many years. IME the pellets are superior in several ways, Convenience being #1 and the long term cost #2 then down to the fact that they work as advertised IMO my Po4 is very low 0-4 PPB i no longer test for Nitrate as it always shows 0 and i do not want to get in the formula trap that seems to be the trend as of late. My tank looks as good as it did when using Vodka and i do none of the work i did before other than the occasional test with the Hanna meter to verify my readings. IME the key is let it have the time it takes to colonize the pellets and have the proper amount for your bio load and let then work.
Bill

Hey Bill,

How much do you feed, and how much roughly, dry weight, per day.

DJ

[poolkeeper1]

Originally Posted by DJREEF

Hey Bill,

How much do you feed, and how much roughly, dry weight, per day.

DJ

DJ, I have around 12 fish the largest is a Powder Brown Tang 4-5" range and all others are about 2" and i feed mainly home made Fish Mush (Approx 2 cubes worth) Plus a 1/2 sheet of Nori daily and the occasional toss of some pellet food for a snack or flake. I also feed my SPS 2X a week with either Reef Chile or Cyclopeese and Amino acids. FYI the Fish Mush has all fresh seafood and lots of good stuff in it also, If you would like i can send you a list of all the ingredients and a quick how to on making your own.
Bill

[reefkt]

Water tested by Steve Garrett (http://www.garretts-acropolis.com/)
during www.scmas.org club meeting(11/19/10)

Phosphate 0.01 ppm again
No GFO

[DJREEF]

Originally Posted by poolkeeper1

DJ, I have around 12 fish the largest is a Powder Brown Tang 4-5" range and all others are about 2" and i feed mainly home made Fish Mush (Approx 2 cubes worth) Plus a 1/2 sheet of Nori daily and the occasional toss of some pellet food for a snack or flake. I also feed my SPS 2X a week with either Reef Chile or Cyclopeese and Amino acids. FYI the Fish Mush has all fresh seafood and lots of good stuff in it also, If you would like i can send you a list of all the ingredients and a quick how to on making your own.
Bill

Thanx Bill, that'd be cool. I have my own formula I worked up from years ago, but I could always use more ideas where foods are concerned. I gotta throw together a new batch pretty soon.

DJ

[JasonD]

Well I've put approximately 500ml into a Next Reef reactor removed the foam and put the plastic canvas in it. the main problem that i see is that the Next Reef has only two holes for water to exit underneath the plastic canvas and this causes the water to channel in my WM bio pellets.

I'm pretty sure that the pellets will work anyways but I would say that the Next Reef reactor is far from ideal for running bio pellets.

Jason

[TheFishMan65]

If you don't pack it so full does it give them room to tumble?

[MedRed]

Originally Posted by JasonD

Well I've put approximately 500ml into a Next Reef reactor removed the foam and put the plastic canvas in it. the main problem that i see is that the Next Reef has only two holes for water to exit underneath the plastic canvas and this causes the water to channel in my WM bio pellets.

I'm pretty sure that the pellets will work anyways but I would say that the Next Reef reactor is far from ideal for running bio pellets.

Jason

are you using an SMR1 or an MR1? My SMR1 keeps my ecoBak on constant boil. I'm not getting any channeling

[nemosworld]

I have a mr1 and my pellets are on constant boil. I use a maxijet 1200 on it. This is a new setup for me, as i have a TLF reactor on my other tank, and i can never get even flow through the reactor, as a result; my pellets mostly churn on one side of the reactor.

not the case with the mr1, i get good even flow. it's been about a week with it, so we will see if that changes.

[drummereef]

Originally Posted by JasonD

Well I've put approximately 500ml into a Next Reef reactor removed the foam and put the plastic canvas in it. the main problem that i see is that the Next Reef has only two holes for water to exit underneath the plastic canvas and this causes the water to channel in my WM bio pellets.

I'm pretty sure that the pellets will work anyways but I would say that the Next Reef reactor is far from ideal for running bio pellets.

Jason

Probably not enough flow to keep them fully suspended. What pump are you using? I run the SMR1 and they tumble nicely. You'll find the pellets will get pushed up on the sides where most of the flow enters the chamber and will fall in the middle, creating a "churning" effect. I run 1L of pellets and have found the more pellets in the reactor the better, it allows for a more even tumble.

[JasonD]

Good points on everything. I probably need to increase my flow I'm running a marine land pump only rated for 250 gallons maxi jet 900. Probably need to increase it to a pump that's rated for three to four hundred. There still is some tumbling just not the whole media. I think it's going to work as it is. But if I don't get the results I want will increase pump.

Jason

[zoeyo5]

i use a mr1 and it was only flowing on one side. i had to take the center tube out and drilled 2 more holes on the sides that had none and now i have good flow all around. i'm using a mj 1200 turned down a little with 500-600ml of pellets.

[JasonD]

Originally Posted by zoeyo5

i use a mr1 and it was only flowing on one side. i had to take the center tube out and drilled 2 more holes on the sides that had none and now i have good flow all around. i'm using a mj 1200 turned down a little with 500-600ml of pellets.

Thanks for the suggestion I think I'm going to have to drill mine out also. Why couldn't the factory have done such an obvious mod?

[buy_baff]

Originally Posted by zoeyo5

i use a mr1 and it was only flowing on one side. i had to take the center tube out and drilled 2 more holes on the sides that had none and now i have good flow all around. i'm using a mj 1200 turned down a little with 500-600ml of pellets.

I just upgraded my reactor to the mr1 and had the same issue. And drilled two more holes as well. You could get them tumbling with out the holes but it took way to much flow.

[jwill275]

I have a 200 gal system, 125 DT - 40 fuge - 75 sump. System is just over one year old with SPS / LPS and some softies with a Copperband, PB and Yellow tang, two perculas, one bangai cardinal, and rabbit fish.

Use RO/DI - TDS - 0 confirmed at two LFS, just to make sure my meter was correct. Make 25 gal WC every two weeks. Don't believe I over feed (famous last words).
Just picled up WM ECOBAK ULNS pellets (1000 ml) planned on using it in my dual BRS reactor. Currently running GFO and GAC. I emptied the GAC and filled it up with the ECOBAK - my first problem - all the pellets won't fit into the reactor, using about 80%.

Is that a problem?

I'm using a RIO 800 pump to run the reactor getting little or no tumble of pellets. I switched the GFO reactor and placed the pellet reactor first and the GFO second, Is that OK or should I split the pelletes between the two reactors and not run GFO?

One important item - I struggling with hair algae, none on sand only on rocks, I'm pulling it out by the handful.

Any recommendations and suggestions is appreciated.

[legg_man]

I have been using the Warner Pellets for 2 1/2 months. Nitrate and PO4 (PO4 tested with Hanna meter) are 0. All corals have colored up and are growing better than ever. It's a 75 gallon reef with 120 total water volume.

I never had a problem with cyno until using this product. Red (on the rocks) and brown (on the sand) are a constant battle.

I am using a AquaC 180 skimmer with a Eheim 1262 pump.
http://www.proteinskimmer.com/Product%20Pages/EV180.htm

The outflow from the reactor is directed into the intake of the skimmer pump.

Do I need to upgrade my skimmer—is cyno a symptom of a "too small skimmer"?

I am thinking about using Red Slime Remover but am not sure how it will effects the pellets. It says on the label it won't harm bacteria.

Opinions please

Thank....

[platax88]

Well guys, i have taken the pellets offline after a few months. My once beautiful and stable reef has gone down-hill sine adding the pellets. Even though nutrients have decreased, I have experienced some bleaching and browning.

I know that many have had success, so i wont bash the pellets. They just didn't workfor me.