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[SwampyBill]

Originally Posted by Chosmic

hey guys, i have an algae problem also, except i have like.. green algae growing on the surface of my liverock, and i want it to stop before it gets out of hand, also i have alot of brown algae all over, i water changed last night and scrubbed the walls clean, and today ... more brown algae.. will the "algae blenny" aka lawnmower blenny http://www.liveaquaria.com/product/p...3+94&pcatid=94 take care of this? Please help, this algae is making the tank look bad. (20 gallon tank). also i have four fish in there, they are one nemo clown fish, 1 blue spot puffer, 1 azure damsel, and 1 purple dottyback. heres my concern, will the dottyback and the blenny get along? if not i can easily take the dottyback back to the LFS. since hes a bit mean to my damsel.

I mentioned in another of your threads that that's too overstocked (w/ potentially aggressive fish) for a tank that is barely 1 1/2 months old. The brown algae sounds like a diatom bloom which would indicate tank is still cycling, or overfeeding, or both. Did you use tap water to set up the tank or do water changes?
The dottyback & damsel are 2 of the biggest bullies out there; you might consider re-homing them, or returning them for store credit if possible. Wait a few more weeks before getting the blennie, but bump up your CUC after doing a few more water changes.

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by AgentCaramel

i figured you were gonna say that...i edited my post but i dunno if you saw it... the maroon is the newest addition. been here for about 2 weeks now and so far has been shy & submissive towards the others

It won't be

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by DrBoxedWine

Hi Snorvich,

I'll be setting up a standard sized 75g mixed reef at the end of summer. I plan on starting with easier corals and an Anemone, but i'm getting the Kessils so I have the options to do more demanding corals in the future. Here is the setup I'll be running

75g tank; LifeReef 600gph overflow, Mag 9.5 return pump, FluidDesigners 30g sump with refugium, Reef Octopus NWB150 skimmer, 2 Kessil A360s (i think, and assuming they don't announce a new line at MACNA), screen top to avoid jumpers. ATO system. 2 Hydor Koralia 750s (have other pumps to increase this, if need be, although i'd like to keep the surface agitation on the lower side so i don't get too much shimmer from the Kessils.

Fish: I'd like to add the top 3, but i'm guessing i'll have to drop at least one of them (i'd drop the flame first, if needed, since it sounds like i'm 50/50 about him eating my corals, anyway). I also enjoy the fish more than corals, so I'd rather sacrifice the corals that need super clean water for another fish or 2.

Kole Tang
One Spot Foxface
Flame Angel
2 Clowns (Occelaris or some black Percula) and their Anemone (A Colorado Sunburst is my plan)
Mandarin (I'll wait the 6 months or however long it takes for Pods to establish)
Midas Blenny can nip fins of planktivores
Mccoskers Flasher Wrasse (1 male? or perhaps 1 male and 2 females? I'm thinking only 1 might be a way to keep the total numbers down, also would consider swapping him for an Orange & Black Fairy Wrasse) stick with the flasher wrasse, you will like one or a pair much better
Goby and his associated pistol shrimp. (I was thinking Yellow Watchman, but i'd like a personable one that lives with a shrimp, i'm open to suggestions as i hear the Yellow WMs are hit or miss as far as being shy goes)
Flame Hawk (on the fence with this guy, as i don't want him to eat my clean up crew, but i love how personable they are, this is actually one of the fish that initially got me excited to switch to saltwater) not shrimp safe, but a great fish
Lawnmower Blenny (I hear they're very personable, but is that too many herbivores? and will he be alright with the Midas?) too many herbivores

CUC - I'll probably do a couple peppermint shrimps and maybe a Fire Shrimp? Also some snails in there. no shrimp if you have the red flame hawkfish

So, thoughts? Is that too many fish? And as I said, if 3 larger fish is too much, i'm ok with dropping the angel.

Thanks in advance! Much appreciated!

Richard

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by SwampyBill

Edited

This thread is only answered by Reef Central Staff. While we encourage your participation elsewhere on Reef Central, we would appreciate your not answering this thread. Thanks in advance for your cooperation.

[SwampyBill]

My apologies, Snorvich. I didn't know it was a no no, & it wasn't my intention to step on toes. Thanks for all your knowledge over the years on Reef Central.

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by SwampyBill

My apologies, Snorvich. I didn't know it was a no no, & it wasn't my intention to step on toes. Thanks for all your knowledge over the years on Reef Central.

No problem and thanks. We do it this way for the sake of consistent answers and to keep things on track with the marine fish compatibility subject matter. Unless we limit it, this thread becomes a catch all for all sorts of questions. If people want general population answers, we encourage a separate thread in Reef Fish (or other appropriate forum). That for sure will get a variety of answers.

[DrBoxedWine]

Thanks Snorvich! What are your thoughts on the total number of fish? Would all of those, minus the Flame angel be too much or would it be alright?

And just 1 or 2 flashers? The male won't be tough on a lone female?

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by DrBoxedWine

Thanks Snorvich! What are your thoughts on the total number of fish? Would all of those, minus the Flame angel be too much or would it be alright?

I am always reluctant to specify a number of fish; when I look at stocking list I look at which fish are in the same ecological niche, behavior and need for territory, tank length (more important than tank volume), food supply if they are grazers of algae or copepod, and adult size.

And just 1 or 2 flashers? The male won't be tough on a lone female? no. You can do a male and 1 or 2 females; I am always concerned that a female will try to become male which is not so good.

[DrBoxedWine]

Thanks!!!!

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by DrBoxedWine

Thanks!!!!

Always a pleasure, check back with any marine fish compatibility questions.

[shermanator]

55 gal DT. No sump right now, but adding one soon.

Have already:

2 ocellaris clowns
1 helfrichi firefish
3 ORA black cardinal fish
1 yellow assessor
(CUC = 1 cleaner shrimp and snails)

Just saw on DD and considering (if they are compatible):

caribbean black cap basslet (okay with yellow assessor?)
blue spotted jawfish

These would likely be the last additions if they would work ok. I'm trying for a very peaceful tank.

Thanks so much!

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by shermanator

55 gal DT. No sump right now, but adding one soon.

Have already:

2 ocellaris clowns
1 helfrichi firefish
3 ORA black cardinal fish
1 yellow assessor
(CUC = 1 cleaner shrimp and snails)

Just saw on DD and considering (if they are compatible):

caribbean black cap basslet (okay with yellow assessor?) probably not in this small a tank
blue spotted jawfish does best in cooler temperatures (72-75F)

These would likely be the last additions if they would work ok. I'm trying for a very peaceful tank. so far, no behavior issues.

Thanks so much!

[shermanator]

Thank you so much. I'm probably better to hold off on them then. I don't want aggression between the assessor and basslet and my tank is 78-79 (and I didn't realize the spotted jawfish needed lower temps). Without you and this thread, I would probably have a mess of a tank...

I'll stay pat until something catches my eye and I'll be back to ask about them. :-)

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by shermanator

Thank you so much. I'm probably better to hold off on them then. I don't want aggression between the assessor and basslet and my tank is 78-79 (and I didn't realize the spotted jawfish needed lower temps). Without you and this thread, I would probably have a mess of a tank...

I'll stay pat until something catches my eye and I'll be back to ask about them. :-)

they do ok in the short run as high as 78-79 but remember they are collected in the sea of cortez where water temperatures are cooler than normal aquaria.

[tylr9m482]

Hi snorvich,

So I am planning to do a new tank in a few months once the funds are available. I am looking to do a 150 or 180 gal display with a 75 gal sump. I am leaning toward a 180. It will be a mixed reef tank with large refugium and large protein skimmer.

Stock list:
Pair of snowflake clowns
kole tang
midas blenny
flame angel (I know they are notorious in reef tanks for being model citzens for years and then going rogue but am willing to take my chances.)
green mandarin ( once my sump as an establishes population of copepods)
yellow tang
hippo tang
one spot foxface
female leopard wrasse
flasher wrasse
royal gramma
yellow watchman goby/pistol shrimp combo
six line wrasse

CUC: Assorted snails, hermits, shrimp

If I have not over stocked I would like to add one or two more tangs(powder blue/naso/chevron), and/or one or two firefish.


Thanks!!!

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by tylr9m482

Hi snorvich,

So I am planning to do a new tank in a few months once the funds are available. I am looking to do a 150 or 180 gal display with a 75 gal sump. I am leaning toward a 180. It will be a mixed reef tank with large refugium and large protein skimmer.

Stock list:
Pair of snowflake clowns
kole tang
midas blenny
flame angel (I know they are notorious in reef tanks for being model citzens for years and then going rogue but am willing to take my chances.)
green mandarin ( once my sump as an establishes population of copepods)
yellow tang
hippo tang needs a larger (longer) tank
one spot foxface
female leopard wrasse
flasher wrasse
royal gramma
yellow watchman goby/pistol shrimp combo
six line wrasse not with a flasher or leopard wrasse


CUC: Assorted snails, hermits, shrimp

If I have not over stocked I would like to add one or two more tangs(powder blue/naso/chevron) no additional tangs in this length tank


, and/or one or two firefish. one firefish assuming your remove the six line


Thanks!!!

[dagda]

I'm wondering about adding a few more fish to my 300g (96x24x30). It was moved a year ago and converted from a reef to fish only. The current stock list is:
Foxface Lo - 6"
Hippo tang - 6"
Schooling Bannerfish - 4"
Bicolor angel - 4"
Maroon clown - 4"
Piccaso trigger - 4"
Voltain Lionfish - 4"
Dogface puffer (black Solomon Island) - 6"

I'm wondering about adding one or more of these:
Big lunare wrasse
Australian Harlequin wrasse
Snowflake eel
Miniatus grouper
Queen, French, or Asfur Angel
A big tang (maybe Blonde Naso?)

Thanks!

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by dagda

I'm wondering about adding a few more fish to my 300g (96x24x30). It was moved a year ago and converted from a reef to fish only. The current stock list is:
Foxface Lo - 6"
Hippo tang - 6"
Schooling Bannerfish - 4"
Bicolor angel - 4"
Maroon clown - 4"
Piccaso trigger - 4"
Voltain Lionfish - 4"
Dogface puffer (black Solomon Island) - 6"

I'm wondering about adding one or more of these:
Big lunare wrasse
Australian Harlequin wrasse
Snowflake eel
Miniatus grouper
Queen, French, or Asfur Angel
A big tang (maybe Blonde Naso?)

Thanks!

sorry, I do not provide analysis of aggressive fish community tanks. However we have an aggressive fish forum where I suggest you post.

[Billini20]

Alright I am back I decided to give my dwarf lion away to a buddy that has a 125. So now I have no fish in my 65 reef. Here is my thoughts on stocking but want to get the thoughts

Trio of Leopard Wrasse only no other fish we have a local SW shop that keeps them in their qt for 6 weeks so they can get them to eat and on are local time. My only concern is that the tank is 3 ft long but 25 high.

Other idea tank max of 4-5 fairy wrasse unsure which ones was going to look today any ones I should keep a eye out for?

Final Idea 3 Bartletts Anthias, 1 Coral Beauty, and a Mellanarus Wrasse.

Thanks for taking the time.
Brent

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by Billini20

Alright I am back I decided to give my dwarf lion away to a buddy that has a 125. So now I have no fish in my 65 reef. Here is my thoughts on stocking but want to get the thoughts

Trio of Leopard Wrasse only no other fish we have a local SW shop that keeps them in their qt for 6 weeks so they can get them to eat and on are local time. My only concern is that the tank is 3 ft long but 25 high.

leopard wrasses are copepod eaters so three in a 65 reef probably is not a good idea. One is fine assuming you feed PE mysis and/or pellets a couple times per day.

Other idea tank max of 4-5 fairy wrasse unsure which ones was going to look today any ones I should keep a eye out for?

four to five may be a bit much. Three should be fine.

Final Idea 3 Bartletts Anthias, 1 Coral Beauty, and a Mellanarus Wrasse. that should work fine; know, however, that coral beauty dwarf angels are not guaranteed reef safe (although they have the least risk of the dwarf angels)

Thanks for taking the time.
Brent

[Matt21345]

just wondering if these fish will be alright with each other????

Lubbock's wrasse
Mccosker's wrasse
royal gramma
Picasso clown
snowflake clown


Future additions may include:
Purple or red firefish
red velvet fairy wrasse
mandarin goby
solarensis wrasse

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by Matt21345

just wondering if these fish will be alright with each other????

Lubbock's wrasse
Mccosker's wrasse
royal gramma
Picasso clown
snowflake clown


Future additions may include:
Purple or red firefish
red velvet fairy wrasse
mandarin goby
solarensis wrasse

tank size? tank age?

[Matt21345]

55 gallon 1 year

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by Matt21345

55 gallon 1 year

just wondering if these fish will be alright with each other????

Lubbock's wrasse
Mccosker's wrasse
royal gramma
Picasso clown
snowflake clown


Future additions may include:
Purple or red firefish maybe. flasher wrasse may intimidate
red velvet fairy wrasse with existing fish, needs larger tank
mandarin goby definitely not in this sized tank with those fish
solarensis wrasse with existing fish, needs larger tank; also C. solorensis is one of the more aggressive fairy wrasses so tank size matters

[cherubfish pair]

Hi Steve,

tank 50 gallon 36" long, sump with skimmer, set up 3 years, ample liverock

existing fish: flame hawk, 6line wrasse, ocellaris clown, banggaii cardinal, royal gramma, neon goby, bicolor angel

wanting to add:

pacific redstripe hogfish (how big do they get? I get conflicting info) or
golden dwarf morey (you say you've never had this animal but you must know something about it?)