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Reeftanks6 · 12/12/2009, 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by -Pixie-

Hi, at currently i have a 55g Reef dt with 10g planted miracle mud sump, 30lb of liverock.

ATM i have 3 chromis, and a royal dotty back/psuedochromis.

i also plan on a yellow watchman or bicolour blennie.

But the question i have, is there a suitable sea star?

Not to sure sorry. Maybe capn will know.

Reeftanks6 · 12/12/2009, 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by arrowheadpuffer

90 gallon, 30sump, 40 fuge (DSB 6"+ and chaeto)

1 fairy wrasse
2 black and white clowns
7 blue green chromis
1 royal gramma

sound good?

what order should I get the fish in?

I think that sounds good. I also have a 90 and in my tank i have
Sailfin Tang
Kole Tang
BlueJaw Trigger
Tomato Clown
Sixline Wrasse.
Still wanting to add 1 or 2 more fish at the most.

Adding the fish i would do.
Either the chromis or perculas first because if your tank is not cycled yet they can be starter fish.
Then either royal gramma or fairy wrasse

johnike · 12/12/2009, 08:10 AM

Thanks, reeftanks6. Trying to stay away from tangs and angels. Wanted to do a load of smaller fish. Decided to also get a hi-fin goby/pistol pair. What's your favorite angel?

Reeftanks6 · 12/12/2009, 08:25 AM

well that nice to hear johnike. Maybe you can try anthias they stay pretty small. There is a lot of angels out there but for reef safe i would say either coral beauty or flame angel. But remember its always a gamble with these angles because they do have a chance to pick at corals.

arrowheadpuffer · 12/12/2009, 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Reeftanks6

I think that sounds good. I also have a 90 and in my tank i have
Sailfin Tang
Kole Tang
BlueJaw Trigger
Tomato Clown
Sixline Wrasse.
Still wanting to add 1 or 2 more fish at the most.

Adding the fish i would do.
Either the chromis or perculas first because if your tank is not cycled yet they can be starter fish.
Then either royal gramma or fairy wrasse

Thanks

The tank is already cycled, I am going to move it to the other side of the room and sell the fu-manchu and marine betta that are already in it.

I am considering adding the frairy wrasse 1st because they are so expensive that I want to make sure its happy and established in the tank, then the clowns, then gramma, and last chromis.

Would that be okay?

vkh2512 · 12/12/2009, 10:52 PM

I have a 55gal DT, 20gal sump, and 10gal fuge. Planning on 60lbs of live rock, with a coralife super skimmer.
-Pair of fire fish
-Pair of true percula clown
-3 or 5 long spine cardinals(need opinon how many really)
-two spotted goby

So any opinion on my stock plan if too many, perfect number, or can add more would be greatly appreciated

Aquarist007 · 12/12/2009, 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by vkh2512

I have a 55gal DT, 20gal sump, and 10gal fuge. Planning on 60lbs of live rock, with a coralife super skimmer.
-Pair of fire fish
-Pair of true percula clown
-3 or 5 long spine cardinals(need opinon how many really)
-two spotted goby

So any opinion on my stock plan if too many, perfect number, or can add more would be greatly appreciated

good combination but go with three cardinals--not five

vkh2512 · 12/12/2009, 10:59 PM

K Thanks, yeah i wasnt sure how many cardinal.

Korrine · 12/13/2009, 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by ashtree68

I don't have the tank set up, it's still in the planning stages but want to get a Lionfish and maybe an eel (not sure what kind yet). What kind of eel do you recommend and what kind of filter/lighting would you recommend? I want to do it in a 55 gallon.

I may be a bit late, but I'd recommend an Echinda nebulosa. They stay small and will do ok in a 55 long term. I'd definitely get a dwarf lionfish and not a volitan's. For the volitans you'd need a minimum of a 75g just for sheer size of the fish (front to back depth of the tank).

Korrine · 12/13/2009, 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by MuddyEiger

Just got the new corner tank for Xmas and an currently planning it. I have a Lion that I will be moving to this tank. I would like to put in a Australian Harlequin Tusk and a Snowflake Moray. See any issues with this?

You don't say how big the tank is, nor what kind of lion??? The tusks get big and are generally not reef safe. Give us more info and we can better help

Edit, I see it's about 60g. No for the tusk. and no if it's a volitan's or large lion. Yes if it's a dwarf lion. An echinda nebulosa (snowflake) eel would be fine in there

Korrine · 12/13/2009, 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by -Pixie-

Hi, at currently i have a 55g Reef dt with 10g planted miracle mud sump, 30lb of liverock.

ATM i have 3 chromis, and a royal dotty back/psuedochromis.

i also plan on a yellow watchman or bicolour blennie.

But the question i have, is there a suitable sea star?

I don't believe there's a suitable starfish for that size tank.

Look here.
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/HighInvertInd.htm

There is a spot for sea stars. Read and see if you can find one that would be ok.

Korrine · 12/13/2009, 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by johnike

Thanks, reeftanks6. Trying to stay away from tangs and angels. Wanted to do a load of smaller fish. Decided to also get a hi-fin goby/pistol pair. What's your favorite angel?

I am considering a c. acanthops angel.

http://www.wetwebmedia.com/marine/fi...pyge/index.htm

Korrine · 12/13/2009, 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Blownsvt

yep i know they are not reef safe because they will eat shrimps and such. from what i have read though they don't touch corals. it's a thought. Tons of people have flame angels and things that are not considered reef safe and they do just fine. I already have it arranged with my LFS that if i get something and it does not work out in my tank i can bring it back for credit to other purchases so worst case they go back.

no no no. Worst case is they decimate your tank overnight when you thought the fish appeared to be just fine

That's happened.

Korrine · 12/13/2009, 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Reeftanks6

well that nice to hear johnike. Maybe you can try anthias they stay pretty small. There is a lot of angels out there but for reef safe i would say either coral beauty or flame angel. But remember its always a gamble with these angles because they do have a chance to pick at corals.

Don't forget they'll also pick at feather dusters and sponges in your aquarium also. If you have any on your rock they will be GONE.

Aquarist007 · 12/13/2009, 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Korrine

no no no. Worst case is they decimate your tank overnight when you thought the fish appeared to be just fine

That's happened.

I agree with Korrine---the LFS maybe guarantee your fish which is highly unusual in this hobby---but not the damage it "could" do in your tank over night.

iwishtofish · 12/13/2009, 08:50 AM

Standard 75 gallon with a more minimal approach to rock. I'm going to try to create lots of hiding places, though.

Fish I like a lot and am considering adding slowly through the first year:

* Sixline wrasse, or more peaceful wrasse if necessary
* Small powder brown tang (algae control; will graduate from the tank when he gets big)
* Carberryi Anthias or Bartlett's Anthias (maybe 3)
* Dwarf lionfish (I know, like to eat happy little things!)

I'll ultimately have about 100 gallons of water volume with the sump, frag tank, etc.

Should I just give up on the lion now? Any particular order in which people would introduce these fish? Thanks

Korrine · 12/13/2009, 09:01 AM

I'd be leary about a powder brown tang. Have you read up on them?

Lionfish do eat fish and your CUC.

I'd do bartlett's anthias. ALL anthias are more difficult fish and I think these are easiest of the species.

Sixline could be fine. I know a guy who has a 4x4 tank (I believe) and his 6 line teases all over in there.

iwishtofish · 12/13/2009, 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Korrine

I'd be leary about a powder brown tang. Have you read up on them?

Lionfish do eat fish and your CUC.

I'd do bartlett's anthias. ALL anthias are more difficult fish and I think these are easiest of the species.

Sixline could be fine. I know a guy who has a 4x4 tank (I believe) and his 6 line teases all over in there.

I definitely need to do more research - all I've really read on the powder brown is 70g minimum, semi-agressive (but passive for a tang). What have you heard, and why would you be leery? Size-of-fish/tank?

I'm hoping a smaller, well-fed lion could behave well enough. As far as I'm concerned, everything one puts in their tank has some risk, but maybe this is just too much. Plus, I'd hate to have to handle him too much.

Korrine · 12/13/2009, 09:46 AM

iwishtofish

Read this:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/GoldRimSs.htm

Here's a quote

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Tankmates/Compatibility:
There are two basic rules to matching livestock with dwarf lions... Nothing small enough to fit in their capacious mouths... and secondly, nothing that will harass them. The first category must need include motile invertebrates... small crabs, hermits, shrimps... all can be inhaled... and may be, as well as any fish small enough to fit. Note that we didn't mention slow or unaware fishes... eventually all fishes "sleep" or cruise about too-oblivious. Larger basses, eels, triggers, puffers, big angels and some other miscellaneous fishes may pick on your small lion... to its demise.

From here http://www.wetwebmedia.com/dendrochirus.htm

iwishtofish · 12/13/2009, 10:02 AM

Informative articles. Thank you, Korrine! I've bookmarked them into my reference library.

I'll be passing on the lion. Still not sure if I'll give up on a tang!

Aquarist007 · 12/13/2009, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by iwishtofish

Informative articles. Thank you, Korrine! I've bookmarked them into my reference library.

I'll be passing on the lion. Still not sure if I'll give up on a tang!

I put this blog together awhile back on Tangs. Hopfully this might help you

http://www.reefcentral.com/wp/?p=341

Korrine · 12/13/2009, 10:25 AM

That is a fantastic index Capn

Still wish I could put a tang in my 29 though

Korrine · 12/13/2009, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by iwishtofish

Informative articles. Thank you, Korrine! I've bookmarked them into my reference library.

I'll be passing on the lion. Still not sure if I'll give up on a tang!

You're welcome. You can find almost ALL your answers on Reefkeeping magazine's website or on wetwebmedia.com (as well as stickies n things on some fish here on RC). These two places are my reefing bibles!!

jfarris1976 · 12/13/2009, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by SmknReefer

4 small Nassarius snails, 6 damsel and roughly 40 lbs of live rock and slowly adding more weekly. HOWEVER, I do happen to have a Biowheel filter going along with a SeaClone 150 skimmer which is temporary fix until I have more money going. I have standard lighting with a heater but I don't have a sump or fuge or anything else cool sounding, however I would much rather get those things set up before I were to have any other little critters in there.

With that in mind, is it better to buy the sump, fuge etc or try and rig up my own plumbing. I want whats best for my little fishes, they're even eating from my hand now!!! I didn't even know damsels did that, well domino, green do. My bluetails come out to beg for food but definately like their privacy. So tell me to buy or build?

I would be careful with damsels. I found out through research that Damsels are kind of aggressive. Everytime i have to put my hand in my 29 gal my damsel attacks me.

Aquarist007 · 12/13/2009, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Korrine

That is a fantastic index Capn

Still wish I could put a tang in my 29 though

a local lfs was selling pacific blue tangs at about an inch for 100 dollars if you are interested

12/12/2009, 08:25 AM	#1054
Reeftanks6 Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: PA Posts: 3,857	well that nice to hear johnike. Maybe you can try anthias they stay pretty small. There is a lot of angels out there but for reef safe i would say either coral beauty or flame angel. But remember its always a gamble with these angles because they do have a chance to pick at corals. __________________ 110g Reef build in progress Current Tank Info: 110 Gallon Reef

12/13/2009, 09:01 AM	#1067
Korrine You could get a ticket!! Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Upper midwest Posts: 4,288 Blog Entries: 1	I'd be leary about a powder brown tang. Have you read up on them? Lionfish do eat fish and your CUC. I'd do bartlett's anthias. ALL anthias are more difficult fish and I think these are easiest of the species. Sixline could be fine. I know a guy who has a 4x4 tank (I believe) and his 6 line teases all over in there. __________________ Try to keep in mind that we are all human...mistakes do happen! Be kinder than necessary because every one you meet is fighting some kind of battle. Current Tank Info: 40 breeder - started 9/2011 - platinum perc and sanjay's black photon clownfishes; sps and lps, and soft corals; 250w MH, 20 long sump w Bubble Magus Nac 3.5 skimmer 12g nano cube -serpent star, mini carpet anemones, w 6 sexy shrimp, 150w MH, maxi je

12/13/2009, 10:25 AM	#1072
Korrine You could get a ticket!! Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Upper midwest Posts: 4,288 Blog Entries: 1	That is a fantastic index Capn Still wish I could put a tang in my 29 though __________________ Try to keep in mind that we are all human...mistakes do happen! Be kinder than necessary because every one you meet is fighting some kind of battle. Current Tank Info: 40 breeder - started 9/2011 - platinum perc and sanjay's black photon clownfishes; sps and lps, and soft corals; 250w MH, 20 long sump w Bubble Magus Nac 3.5 skimmer 12g nano cube -serpent star, mini carpet anemones, w 6 sexy shrimp, 150w MH, maxi je

12/12/2009, 08:10 AM	#1053
johnike Moved On Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Bureau County Illinois Posts: 5,406	Thanks, reeftanks6. Trying to stay away from tangs and angels. Wanted to do a load of smaller fish. Decided to also get a hi-fin goby/pistol pair. What's your favorite angel?

12/12/2009, 10:52 PM	#1056
vkh2512 Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 14	I have a 55gal DT, 20gal sump, and 10gal fuge. Planning on 60lbs of live rock, with a coralife super skimmer. -Pair of fire fish -Pair of true percula clown -3 or 5 long spine cardinals(need opinon how many really) -two spotted goby So any opinion on my stock plan if too many, perfect number, or can add more would be greatly appreciated

12/12/2009, 10:59 PM	#1058
vkh2512 Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 14	K Thanks, yeah i wasnt sure how many cardinal.

12/13/2009, 08:50 AM	#1066
iwishtofish Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Southern Maryland Posts: 4,949	Standard 75 gallon with a more minimal approach to rock. I'm going to try to create lots of hiding places, though. Fish I like a lot and am considering adding slowly through the first year: * Sixline wrasse, or more peaceful wrasse if necessary * Small powder brown tang (algae control; will graduate from the tank when he gets big) * Carberryi Anthias or Bartlett's Anthias (maybe 3) * Dwarf lionfish (I know, like to eat happy little things!) I'll ultimately have about 100 gallons of water volume with the sump, frag tank, etc. Should I just give up on the lion now? Any particular order in which people would introduce these fish? Thanks

12/13/2009, 10:02 AM	#1070
iwishtofish Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Southern Maryland Posts: 4,949	Informative articles. Thank you, Korrine! I've bookmarked them into my reference library. I'll be passing on the lion. Still not sure if I'll give up on a tang!