ATI Powermodule Hybrid Club

[MK]

Originally Posted by 813mixreef

what is the best t5ho combo from front to back for 7bulbs fixture please ?

There's no 7 bulb fixture... You can get 4 bulbs or 8.
Is hard to tell which combination is "best"... Depend what you like.
In 8 bulb fixture most popular combo (in my opinion) is something close to:

1- Blue plus
2- Purple plus
3- Blue plus
4- Here is place for white/yellow bulbs people are using from 6500 GE to Aquablue special or coral light
- center row LEDs
5- Here are blue color as well or white/yellow as above
6- Blue plus
7- Purple plus
8- Blue plus

For 4 bulb fixture I think most people are using 2x blue plus and 2x purple plus.

[CoopsReef]

Originally Posted by MK

There's no 7 bulb fixture... You can get 4 bulbs or 8.
Is hard to tell which combination is "best"... Depend what you like.
In 8 bulb fixture most popular combo (in my opinion) is something close to:

1- Blue plus
2- Purple plus
3- Blue plus
4- Here is place for white/yellow bulbs people are using from 6500 GE to Aquablue special or coral light
- center row LEDs
5- Here are blue color as well or white/yellow as above
6- Blue plus
7- Purple plus
8- Blue plus

For 4 bulb fixture I think most people are using 2x blue plus and 2x purple plus.

That's the combo I use in my 8 bulb fixture with KZ coral light 10k in spots 4 and 5. Love that combo.

[rtparty]

My 4 bulb has 3 blue plus and 1 coral plus. I'd never run 2 purple plus on a 4 bulb setup.

[MK]

Originally Posted by CoopsReef

That's the combo I use in my 8 bulb fixture with KZ coral light 10k in spots 4 and 5. Love that combo.

I switched to KZ bulbs as well, my 4th bulb was new generation 14K and 5th was coral light, I didn't really like that new gen 14K it was a little bit to bright so I changed that bulb to coral light...

[goreef170]

Hi Guys,
One question:

On the 60" Hybrid, 4-T5, 4 LED, or 8 T5 4 LED, do these run hot ? I have a acrylic tank, and it holds in the heat, would like to know how much heat they produce.

Thanks,
Keith

[Lubeck]

I have the 4 bulb unit over a acrylic tank with an open canopy too. No issues during the winter time at all and would say if you don't have a canopy it would be just fine anytime of the year.

[goreef170]

Originally Posted by Lubeck

I have the 4 bulb unit over a acrylic tank with an open canopy too. No issues during the winter time at all and would say if you don't have a canopy it would be just fine anytime of the year.

Thanks Bob for the info

I don't have a canopy. How high awl do you have the lights ?

Thanks,
Keith

[Lubeck]

I'm pretty sure it's 8-9"

[adamwheel]

I have something a bit odd happening with my 8 tube 60":

The program works great all day but then the light just shuts off abruptly around 10:30 at night (supposed to dim until midnight). If I do Day Preview, it goes through exactly what I want to see. This happens even if I load the program from the lamp. This tells me that the program is correctly uploaded to the lamp yet I'm missing a portion of my sunset every day when the light abruptly shuts off.

I've been a member of this thread for a long time at this point but haven't seen anyone with this problem. I plan on calling ATI tomorrow but wondered if anyone had thoughts.

Thanks,

Adam

[rtparty]

Adam, what percentage does it turn to at 10:30?

[adamwheel]

At 10:30 it abruptly shuts off straight to zero on the LEDs. The T5s aren't dimmable on my model, so they aren't on at that point.

Again, the schedule has them slowly dimming until midnight and works fine in Day Preview.

I do have the clock set correctly and the schedule is set for 4 LED banks.

I'm going to try writing an entirely new schedule tonight and loading it to the lamp. I just don't understand how the schedule can be fine in day preview but then somehow corrupted when running within the lamp.

Any help would be appreciated.

Adam

[sahin]

Originally Posted by adamwheel

At 10:30 it abruptly shuts off straight to zero on the LEDs. The T5s aren't dimmable on my model, so they aren't on at that point.

Again, the schedule has them slowly dimming until midnight and works fine in Day Preview.

I do have the clock set correctly and the schedule is set for 4 LED banks.

I'm going to try writing an entirely new schedule tonight and loading it to the lamp. I just don't understand how the schedule can be fine in day preview but then somehow corrupted when running within the lamp.

Any help would be appreciated.

Adam

Hi Adam,

I've sent you a PM with my email. Can you send over your schedule to? I will take a look and see if there is anything wrong with it.

When you email me, can you also let me know how many LED clusters are on your unit. Im not sure if its 4 or 5 on the 60" fixture.

[Christian J]

Originally Posted by adamwheel

The T5s aren't dimmable on my model

Speaking of which (and sorry for the quote-hijack!), does ATI use any numbering system to tell various upgrades apart? Knowing this might be useful when ordering from online stores, so we don't get sent older models than expected.

Also, how many upgrades are there in the first place? So far I recall reading about:

* dimmable T5 option added

* white(?) LEDs changed to multi-color

* color composition of LEDs changed more than once?

* reinforcement for sagging acrylic screen added

[sahin]

Originally Posted by Christian J

Speaking of which (and sorry for the quote-hijack!), does ATI use any numbering system to tell various upgrades apart? Knowing this might be useful when ordering from online stores, so we don't get sent older models than expected.

Also, how many upgrades are there in the first place? So far I recall reading about:

* dimmable T5 option added

* white(?) LEDs changed to multi-color

* color composition of LEDs changed more than once?

* reinforcement for sagging acrylic screen added

These are not upgrades, but rather specification improvements. Model numbers are the same.

* dimmable T5 option added - Incorrect. All units (except for the 80w USA (110volt fixtures)) come with dimmable T5's. This was never an option

* white(?) LEDs changed to multi-color - Apart from the change of Royal Blue and White diodes to the quad chip Luxeon M's no changes. So again, only minor change.

* color composition of LEDs changed more than once? - As far as I know ATI always had Red, Blue, Royal Blue and White (6500K) diodes.
The original R33FBUILDERS article reported green diodes etc, which was incorrect. I know of no colour changes.

* reinforcement for sagging acrylic screen added - Only a slight design improvement. Not an upgrade.

Therefore, only small improvements in design etc. The ONLY reason we know that the Royal Blue and White LED's were changed is because you can physically see that they are different as it is a multi-diode chip.

You will not be able to ask your supplier to get you a "newer" model because there is no newer model numbers. Its down to luck what you get. Hope that makes sense.

Other manufacturers are doing the same thing and will source different bins/newer more efficient diodes, but people havent got a clue because the newer diodes look the same outwardly. No manufacturer supplies the BIN numbers etc and but they do change to a newer diode if a newer cheaper/more efficient diode is available.

I know that because my buddy has 2 Radion Pro's (one bought earlier than other) and the Blue LED's look a slightly different shade of blue.

I know of another UK reefer who's Radion Gen2 had two different shades of Royal Blue on the two pucks on the same unit! Most likely due to one of the pucks being from a different bin/newer diodes.

[wheelman76]

At some point they "changed" the LEDs correct?
Was it the whole module that was changed? And can you tell by looking at the fixture?
I remember reading that with the new LEDs you will be able to change them out in the future for newer upgrades. But with the older LEDs that came with the fixtures that were first released , you will not be able to upgrade them.

[sahin]

Originally Posted by wheelman76

At some point they "changed" the LEDs correct?
Was it the whole module that was changed? And can you tell by looking at the fixture?
I remember reading that with the new LEDs you will be able to change them out in the future for newer upgrades. But with the older LEDs that came with the fixtures that were first released , you will not be able to upgrade them.

Yes. At some point they changed to the Luxeon M diodes. Not sure when though. Whereas all previous diodes were single LED's, the Luxeon M's are 4 diodes on one chip set in a square configuration. So the Cluster definitely looks different. Look back a few pages, someone posted photos I remember.

As for whether the older clusters can be changed out or not, I dont know. Maybe drop ATI an email?

[wheelman76]

Originally Posted by sahin

Yes. At some point they changed to the Luxeon M diodes. Not sure when though. Whereas all previous diodes were single LED's, the Luxeon M's are 4 diodes on one chip set in a square configuration. So the Cluster definitely looks different. Look back a few pages, someone posted photos I remember.

As for whether the older clusters can be changed out or not, I dont know. Maybe drop ATI an email?

Thanks Sahin , I'll look back a few pages for the photos.

[whispers]

I got my light Monday easy setup thanks to sahin's set up video..but how do I turn on my lights on before the schedule turns on. my lights come on at 11:00am if I wanted to turn them on manually let's say at 10:00am just to see in the tank how do I do that with out my laptop is there a way on the controller with out messing up my already programmed times and intensities?

[rtparty]

Originally Posted by whispers

I got my light Monday easy setup thanks to sahin's set up video..but how do I turn on my lights on before the schedule turns on. my lights come on at 11:00am if I wanted to turn them on manually let's say at 10:00am just to see in the tank how do I do that with out my laptop is there a way on the controller with out messing up my already programmed times and intensities?

I'm 99% sure there is not a way to do that. At least I can't think of a way.

[sahin]

Originally Posted by whispers

I got my light Monday easy setup thanks to sahin's set up video..but how do I turn on my lights on before the schedule turns on. my lights come on at 11:00am if I wanted to turn them on manually let's say at 10:00am just to see in the tank how do I do that with out my laptop is there a way on the controller with out messing up my already programmed times and intensities?

Ryan is correct, there isn't. I wish this was a feature though.

Just like you, I sometime have the need to switch the light on before or after the light hours eg to feed early to take come photos etc.

The easiest and quickest way is to simply change the time on the clock. Its like a few button presses, but does the job. Once finished just change the time back.

Rather than the pretty much useless demo mode, I wish ATI had instead programmed this feature which switches off say after 30 mins.

The other way is if you have the controller connected to your laptop via USB most of the time, then simply load the software and slide the mode into COLOUR PREVIEW.

Easiest way is just to change the clock timer.

[Rpogge2]

Originally Posted by rtparty

My 4 bulb has 3 blue plus and 1 coral plus. I'd never run 2 purple plus on a 4 bulb setup.

I just ordered a 48" 4 bulb, getting ready to order some T5's for it.
Is there no benefit to running an atinic also?
like 2 B+, 1C+, 1 true atinc ?
or do you find the LEDs and the blue+ bulbs give off enough of that spectrum to get good florescence?

I am coming from a MH + T5 14k , 2B+ 2 Atinic, had never really tried any different combos.

[Rpogge2]

double post

[Lubeck]

I run

B
A
LEDs
P
B

I may change my purple to coral plus to see if I see any color/ growth change But am very happy with the combo above too

[adamwheel]

Ryan,

Sorry. I just noticed your reply to me. The LEDs are ramping up correctly in the morning but at sunset, they abruptly shut off around 7%. It doesn't matter which schedule I run, that percentage seems to be the number. The display reads zero for all colors at that point even though the schedule says otherwise.

The schedules were all working a couple weeks ago, so I know they were written correctly.

I contacted ATI N. America yesterday and they will be looking at my schedule today and getting back with me.

I'll post back with any resolution. I love the light and just want it working properly.

Cheers,

Adam

[blakeorme]

Originally Posted by sahin

Ryan is correct, there isn't. I wish this was a feature though.

Just like you, I sometime have the need to switch the light on before or after the light hours eg to feed early to take come photos etc.

The easiest and quickest way is to simply change the time on the clock. Its like a few button presses, but does the job. Once finished just change the time back.

Rather than the pretty much useless demo mode, I wish ATI had instead programmed this feature which switches off say after 30 mins.

The other way is if you have the controller connected to your laptop via USB most of the time, then simply load the software and slide the mode into COLOUR PREVIEW.

Easiest way is just to change the clock timer.

Agree with this %100. I had a similar issue when battling a nuisance algae, and wanted a lights/low light period for a few days. I found it easier to change the clock to repeat the night lighting schedule than fiddle with my lighting schedule. I would set it to 8pm each morning and evening so some lights were on to view the tank.