SC Aquariums Owners Thread - Page 43

soulpatch · 07/29/2016, 07:42 AM

The only issue I see with that approach is that you are still limited on what you can do in the stand. Sure it might not be idea but you can hide an ATO container elsewhere and just have tubing coming to the sump/tank.

If you are planning on running items like the spyglass reactor that sit in sump then less of an issue but something to keep in mind as you think of all of the equipment and such you plan to keep in your stand...

Capt_Cully · 07/29/2016, 08:02 AM

Nice thanks!

My major concern is my custom stand. It has no center support in front. I'm not an engineer, but it held my previous 120 just fine. That did have trim on it. I'm wondering if I build a bottom out of doubled up 3/4" plywood, so 1 1/2" thick, would that suffice? Stand has otherwise open top and supported previous stand around the bottom trim. Can't really take a good picture because the old tank is still on it.

soulpatch · 07/29/2016, 08:07 AM

These tanks dont have bottom trim and you will need to sheet off the top of the stand so the tank has a flat surface to sit on.

Capt_Cully · 07/29/2016, 09:45 AM

Yes, that's the plan. I'm not sure how much support it will need that sheet. Will it need a center brace you think? Either under the flat piece front to back, or as a front center post?

....perhaps best to call Steve lol... Will give it an hour.

soulpatch · 07/29/2016, 10:13 AM

Depending on how it is built it will not need the front center brace BUT I would put a center brace under the sheet you lay for the tank to sit on. I would personally be fine with a 1/2" plywood though spend the couple bucks more for the nicer quality without the imperfections of the cheap stuff. Sure the foam mat the tank sits on will help but personally I like to ensure the "subfloor" if you will is worthy as well. $10 in wood is worth it for the thousands sitting on it.

If you want to swap out stands to one from SC you wont be disappointed. And really not that expensive all things considered. Though I am sure your current stand perfectly matches the decor you have so I would try to salvage myself.

Capt_Cully · 07/29/2016, 10:43 AM

Talked to him. Questions answered...can build platform for my existing tank (which I will brace front to back) out of3/4" ply. Foam pad comes with the tank apparently. That information may already be in this thread.

Will be ordering next week.

Thanks!

kzaveri19 · 07/31/2016, 08:57 AM

I am using the standard clamps provided with my 66g. However, they seem to be rusting rather fast. Any suggestions for replacement clamps?

Also, it seems that my plumbing was flawed. I left too much space between the point where the PVC overflow pipe ends and my sumps water level. Its noisy and splashes too much. I don't want to glue more PVC to this and would rather clamp some vinyl tubing at the end.

Would a piece of 1.5 inch vinyl tubing clamped to the PVC work?

pelphrey · 07/31/2016, 09:48 AM

You could get a coupler and just slide another section of pipe on it. You don't have to glue it.

soulpatch · 07/31/2016, 10:52 AM

Exactly. Coupler and more pipe.

As for clamps look at the plastic ones brs sells. I hate the screw clamps for these reas9ns and only use the plastic pinch clamps now

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hipertec · 07/31/2016, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by kzaveri19

I am using the standard clamps provided with my 66g. However, they seem to be rusting rather fast. Any suggestions for replacement clamps?

Also, it seems that my plumbing was flawed. I left too much space between the point where the PVC overflow pipe ends and my sumps water level. Its noisy and splashes too much. I don't want to glue more PVC to this and would rather clamp some vinyl tubing at the end.

Would a piece of 1.5 inch vinyl tubing clamped to the PVC work?

I had the same issue with my clamps and replaced with the home Depot sst clamps. No issues at all.
I think you have the 50g cube with the PH2500 pump. My drain is only 8" high from the bulkhead and there is a drop from my overflow but mine is not loud at all. As the pump is not super strong. I wonder how come yours is gushing down the overflow and mine is not?

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tassy · 07/31/2016, 06:34 PM

Has anybody ever run their system without the Overflow. I'm waiting on parts but could probably get the tank going with existing livestock. Any input. The tank itself should hold water and the Overflow be dry is that correct?

THNX

John

soulpatch · 07/31/2016, 07:32 PM

so long as you fill to a lower level then overflow teeth yes it will hold water. but you will need water movement in there to churn O2. I would personally leave in old tank till you are ready personally...

texdoc77 · 07/31/2016, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by soulpatch

The only issue I see with that approach is that you are still limited on what you can do in the stand. Sure it might not be idea but you can hide an ATO container elsewhere and just have tubing coming to the sump/tank.

If you are planning on running items like the spyglass reactor that sit in sump then less of an issue but something to keep in mind as you think of all of the equipment and such you plan to keep in your stand...

Yeah, it's all about space and trade off. I do like that the 150 sump is actually a little shorter. This will allow me to potentially add reactors and dosers over the sump. Like I said before, this will be my first experience running a sump, I used to run a canister filter in the past (liked the filtration, but didn't like running all my monitors and skimmer in DT). This was my weekend project...

IMG_1569 by texdoc77, on Flickr

IMG_1570 by texdoc77, on Flickr

IMG_1571 by texdoc77, on Flickr

Built the stand, did the plumbing, never done anything like that before. Really enjoyed it. Those blue 55 gallon drums were a great deal and the place I got them from triple washes and sanitizes. Try as I might I could not smell anything in them. I did also wash them myself.

z3speed4me · 08/01/2016, 06:57 AM

Who is the source of the 55's? Do they ship the containers or you have to pick them up...

texdoc77 · 08/01/2016, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by z3speed4me

Who is the source of the 55's? Do they ship the containers or you have to pick them up...

It is texastotesandbarrels.com

Not sure if they ship outside of Texas, but I did see other places that do in my searching. It appears there is a bit of a market for used barrels and containers. TT&B has a contract with a juice place, so it was only ever juice in the barrels, not ink or oil or something like that. If you are in TX they have multiple locations within a drive. Their service is excellent and I am very happy with my barrels.

soulpatch · 08/01/2016, 12:09 PM

If you are looking for containers: http://www.ruralking.com/

Just order one which is more then $99 and shipping is free...

LowHangingFruit · 08/02/2016, 06:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by soulpatch

If you are looking for containers: http://www.ruralking.com/

Just order one which is more then $99 and shipping is free...

Found a 75 gallon I like with free shipping for $120. Thanks for the link.

pelphrey · 08/02/2016, 06:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by soulpatch

If you are looking for containers: http://www.ruralking.com/

Just order one which is more then $99 and shipping is free...

I followed the direction of mr soulpatch and bought the ace roto container from rural king. It took about 3.5 weeks to get. I got the 40 gallon, shipping was $10 I believe.

I've had multiple comments that go like this "You paid $80 for a container" which I reply I sure did.... And I would do it again.

I took a marker and wrote over the gallon markings on the container for better visibility.

The pvc and 90 on the right o the ball valve is not glued in. I didn't want it sticking out any further and risk someone walking into it and snapping it off.

soulpatch · 08/02/2016, 06:51 AM

Yeah I researched for wrote some time and couldn't find anywhere to beat their deals. The free shipping is clutch

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z3speed4me · 08/02/2016, 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by soulpatch

http://www.ruralking.com/

Fantastic, thanks!! Just pre-planning for my inevitable upgrade coming over the winter.

What category on the page, I feel like a dope that can't find these things. "water container, storage container, plastic container" I do not see these blue ones you guys are posting

Is this the 40?
http://www.ruralking.com/ace-roto-mo....html?___SID=U

pelphrey · 08/02/2016, 08:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by z3speed4me

Fantastic, thanks!! Just pre-planning for my inevitable upgrade coming over the winter.

What category on the page, I feel like a dope that can't find these things. "water container, storage container, plastic container" I do not see these blue ones you guys are posting

Is this the 40?
http://www.ruralking.com/ace-roto-mo....html?___SID=U

That is the 40. You'll have to pay shipping since it isn't over $100. The 65 and 75 gallon ship for free. The weird thing is if you look up the 55 gallon they want $200 to ship. My guess is the over all height of the 55.

soulpatch · 08/02/2016, 08:08 AM

just search on ace roto to see them all.

acer · 08/02/2016, 09:15 AM

I just cheeked the 35 gallon = $74 but 8-10 weeks to deliver!!

Found one locally for $99 - $10 coupon off - no shipping at Tractor Supply.

soulpatch · 08/02/2016, 09:17 AM

They quoted me 8-10 weeks and i had it in 3. Came direct from manufacturer

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acer · 08/04/2016, 01:30 PM

YES!! my tank delivered today successfully - with one little error- they forgot to put any trim on the inside of the custom canopy - so it fits over the tank and does not sit "on" the tank. Steve is already on it and sending me the trim.

For pics go to page 16 of my build thread.

http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/sh....php?t=2582016

07/29/2016, 07:42 AM	#1051
soulpatch Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Downingtown, PA Posts: 4,017	The only issue I see with that approach is that you are still limited on what you can do in the stand. Sure it might not be idea but you can hide an ATO container elsewhere and just have tubing coming to the sump/tank. If you are planning on running items like the spyglass reactor that sit in sump then less of an issue but something to keep in mind as you think of all of the equipment and such you plan to keep in your stand... __________________ 150 SC tank build: http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2550948 Some have bar tabs. I have a coral tab at my LFS. Life goals.

07/29/2016, 08:02 AM	#1052
Capt_Cully Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Syracuse, NY Posts: 13,574	Nice thanks! My major concern is my custom stand. It has no center support in front. I'm not an engineer, but it held my previous 120 just fine. That did have trim on it. I'm wondering if I build a bottom out of doubled up 3/4" plywood, so 1 1/2" thick, would that suffice? Stand has otherwise open top and supported previous stand around the bottom trim. Can't really take a good picture because the old tank is still on it. __________________ People say cars are a bad investment. Those people don't have reef tanks. Current Tank Info: 120, Radion Gen 2 Pro x 2

07/29/2016, 08:07 AM	#1053
soulpatch Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Downingtown, PA Posts: 4,017	These tanks dont have bottom trim and you will need to sheet off the top of the stand so the tank has a flat surface to sit on. __________________ 150 SC tank build: http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2550948 Some have bar tabs. I have a coral tab at my LFS. Life goals.

07/29/2016, 09:45 AM	#1054
Capt_Cully Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Syracuse, NY Posts: 13,574	Yes, that's the plan. I'm not sure how much support it will need that sheet. Will it need a center brace you think? Either under the flat piece front to back, or as a front center post? ....perhaps best to call Steve lol... Will give it an hour. __________________ People say cars are a bad investment. Those people don't have reef tanks. Current Tank Info: 120, Radion Gen 2 Pro x 2

07/29/2016, 10:13 AM	#1055
soulpatch Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Downingtown, PA Posts: 4,017	Depending on how it is built it will not need the front center brace BUT I would put a center brace under the sheet you lay for the tank to sit on. I would personally be fine with a 1/2" plywood though spend the couple bucks more for the nicer quality without the imperfections of the cheap stuff. Sure the foam mat the tank sits on will help but personally I like to ensure the "subfloor" if you will is worthy as well. $10 in wood is worth it for the thousands sitting on it. If you want to swap out stands to one from SC you wont be disappointed. And really not that expensive all things considered. Though I am sure your current stand perfectly matches the decor you have so I would try to salvage myself. __________________ 150 SC tank build: http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2550948 Some have bar tabs. I have a coral tab at my LFS. Life goals.

07/29/2016, 10:43 AM	#1056
Capt_Cully Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Syracuse, NY Posts: 13,574	Talked to him. Questions answered...can build platform for my existing tank (which I will brace front to back) out of3/4" ply. Foam pad comes with the tank apparently. That information may already be in this thread. Will be ordering next week. Thanks! __________________ People say cars are a bad investment. Those people don't have reef tanks. Current Tank Info: 120, Radion Gen 2 Pro x 2

07/31/2016, 09:48 AM	#1058
pelphrey Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Kentucky Posts: 463	You could get a coupler and just slide another section of pipe on it. You don't have to glue it. __________________ Devoted Reefer 250 - http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2597291 http://www.youtube.com/pelphrey

07/31/2016, 10:52 AM	#1059
soulpatch Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Downingtown, PA Posts: 4,017	Exactly. Coupler and more pipe. As for clamps look at the plastic ones brs sells. I hate the screw clamps for these reas9ns and only use the plastic pinch clamps now Sent from my SM-G935T using Tapatalk __________________ 150 SC tank build: http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2550948 Some have bar tabs. I have a coral tab at my LFS. Life goals.

07/31/2016, 06:34 PM	#1061
tassy Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Posts: 136	Has anybody ever run their system without the Overflow. I'm waiting on parts but could probably get the tank going with existing livestock. Any input. The tank itself should hold water and the Overflow be dry is that correct? THNX John

07/31/2016, 07:32 PM	#1062
soulpatch Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Downingtown, PA Posts: 4,017	so long as you fill to a lower level then overflow teeth yes it will hold water. but you will need water movement in there to churn O2. I would personally leave in old tank till you are ready personally... __________________ 150 SC tank build: http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2550948 Some have bar tabs. I have a coral tab at my LFS. Life goals.

08/01/2016, 06:57 AM	#1064
z3speed4me Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Clark, NJ Posts: 99	Who is the source of the 55's? Do they ship the containers or you have to pick them up...

08/01/2016, 12:09 PM	#1066
soulpatch Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Downingtown, PA Posts: 4,017	If you are looking for containers: http://www.ruralking.com/ Just order one which is more then $99 and shipping is free... __________________ 150 SC tank build: http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2550948 Some have bar tabs. I have a coral tab at my LFS. Life goals.

08/02/2016, 06:51 AM	#1069
soulpatch Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Downingtown, PA Posts: 4,017	Yeah I researched for wrote some time and couldn't find anywhere to beat their deals. The free shipping is clutch Sent from my SM-G935T using Tapatalk __________________ 150 SC tank build: http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2550948 Some have bar tabs. I have a coral tab at my LFS. Life goals.

08/02/2016, 08:08 AM	#1072
soulpatch Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Downingtown, PA Posts: 4,017	just search on ace roto to see them all. __________________ 150 SC tank build: http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2550948 Some have bar tabs. I have a coral tab at my LFS. Life goals.

08/02/2016, 09:15 AM	#1073
acer Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: pittsburgh,pa Posts: 2,612	I just cheeked the 35 gallon = $74 but 8-10 weeks to deliver!! Found one locally for $99 - $10 coupon off - no shipping at Tractor Supply. Last edited by acer; 08/02/2016 at 09:33 AM.

08/02/2016, 09:17 AM	#1074
soulpatch Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Downingtown, PA Posts: 4,017	They quoted me 8-10 weeks and i had it in 3. Came direct from manufacturer Sent from my SM-G935T using Tapatalk __________________ 150 SC tank build: http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2550948 Some have bar tabs. I have a coral tab at my LFS. Life goals.

08/04/2016, 01:30 PM	#1075
acer Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: pittsburgh,pa Posts: 2,612	YES!! my tank delivered today successfully - with one little error- they forgot to put any trim on the inside of the custom canopy - so it fits over the tank and does not sit "on" the tank. Steve is already on it and sending me the trim. For pics go to page 16 of my build thread. http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/sh....php?t=2582016