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Unread 05/14/2014, 08:34 PM   #10776
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Order is always most aggressive last; as those who follow this thread know I do not provide recommendations for a variety of reasons. I am always happy to reanalyze if complete stocking list and tank specs are provided

ok Thank you I will keep researching, and get a better stocking list..


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ok here is my updated stocking list..

56 gallon
40gallon sump
49#'s dry rock
12#'s live rock
About a two in sand bed

2 oc clowns
1 diamondback goby w/pistal shrimp
1 multi color lubbocks fairy wrasse or carpenters flasher wrasse
1 blue green chromis
1 royal gramma basslet

thank you for all you do


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Current Tank Info: 56 gallon 30 x 18 x 22 with a 40gal sump, SCA 302 skimmer, 10 gal QT tank, a hydror 600 power head, 2 enhiem 150 heaters, 49#'s of dry rock, 12#'s of life rock, 40#'s of sand
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Unread 05/14/2014, 10:50 PM   #10778
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Hello.

First Steve, thanks so much for your continued help.

My question, assuming everything else being compatible, in a 48x24x26, would 3-4 each of Dispar Anthias and Huchtii Anthias work out?

Other likely denizens are

Royal Gramma
Bicolor Blenny
Hoeven's Wrasse
Zebra Barred Dartfish x 3
Spotted Cardinals x 3-4

With 100 lbs live rock, 120 lbs fine sand, CUC, what do you think?


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Unread 05/14/2014, 10:52 PM   #10779
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Ah. Add to the above Eibli Angel and last add a Kole Tang.


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Unread 05/15/2014, 12:44 AM   #10780
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IM Nuvo 16G tank

Hi!
I have a IM Nuvo 16g tank with 16kg live rock and a 1-1,5 cm live sand bed. The sump is intergrated on the back of the tank. I keep there about 300g seachem Matrix as a way to extend the nitrifying bacteria surface area. Filtration is floss and act. carbon in the 2 canisters. For circulation I have an mp10.
My cycle is almost done (ammonia & nitrites 0 and nitrates 35 which I'm bringing soon down with water changes). Now I'm looking into what livestock i can put into. Since I haven't had an algae bloom yet I will start with a clown. This will also give some more time to stabilize the tank before adding the cuc (they are more sensitive right)?
If algae happens 3 trochus snails and a blue or red legged hermit will go in.
Other than that I was thinking adding 5 sexy shrimp and a green/blue chromis.
As for corals I'm thinking some zoas, a frogspan and a couple featherdusters.
Do you think this is ok for a 16g tank?


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Unread 05/15/2014, 06:25 AM   #10781
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ok here is my updated stocking list..

56 gallon
40gallon sump
49#'s dry rock
12#'s live rock
About a two in sand bed

2 oc clowns
1 diamondback goby w/pistal shrimp
1 multi color lubbocks fairy wrasse or carpenters flasher wrasse
1 blue green chromis
1 royal gramma basslet

thank you for all you do
Looks good Scott


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Unread 05/15/2014, 06:27 AM   #10782
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Ah. Add to the above Eibli Angel and last add a Kole Tang.
Yes, the collected list should be fine. Note that anthias need to be fed multiple times per day for best results long term (metabolism issue)


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Unread 05/15/2014, 06:28 AM   #10783
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Hi!
I have a IM Nuvo 16g tank with 16kg live rock and a 1-1,5 cm live sand bed. The sump is intergrated on the back of the tank. I keep there about 300g seachem Matrix as a way to extend the nitrifying bacteria surface area. Filtration is floss and act. carbon in the 2 canisters. For circulation I have an mp10.
My cycle is almost done (ammonia & nitrites 0 and nitrates 35 which I'm bringing soon down with water changes). Now I'm looking into what livestock i can put into. Since I haven't had an algae bloom yet I will start with a clown. This will also give some more time to stabilize the tank before adding the cuc (they are more sensitive right)?
If algae happens 3 trochus snails and a blue or red legged hermit will go in.
Other than that I was thinking adding 5 sexy shrimp and a green/blue chromis.
As for corals I'm thinking some zoas, a frogspan and a couple featherdusters.
Do you think this is ok for a 16g tank?
A clownfish or chromis is a bit much for a 16 gallon tank; I would suggest looking at smaller fish with less territorial need. There are lots of excellent fish that would work and if you focus on the right ones two small ones would do well.


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Unread 05/15/2014, 09:54 AM   #10784
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McCosker's Flasher vs. Inverts

Petco online advises against keeping this Wrasse with any crustaceans although I cannot find any other source which references this. Does anyone know whether this is a real problem? I'm planning to purchase one and mostly certainly can't if this is so.

75 gal reef with refugium; inverts including snails, skunk shrimp, brittle star, tiny blue leg hermits.

1 sad little yellow tail damsel
2 bully blue damsels (damsels all came with tank)
1 firefish
1 kaudern cardinal
1 pj cardinal
1 brittle star
1 skunk shrimp
2 false percs


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Follow up question, er, two.

Recapping:

In a 48x24x26

Royal Gramma
Bicolor Blenny
Hoeven's Wrasse
Zebra Barred Dartfish x 3
Spotted Cardinals x 3-4
Dispar Anthias x 3-4
Huchtii Anthias x 3-4
Eibli Angel
Kole Tang

With 100 lbs live rock, 120 lbs fine sand, CUC.

1. Substitute Sunrise Dottyback x 2-3 for the Royal Gramma?
2. When tank is well established add CBB?
2.5. Is this load getting too much for rational husbandry, with the multiple feedings daily of the anthias, etc. Total system actual water amount is around 110 gallons.

Thank you!


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Unread 05/15/2014, 10:33 AM   #10786
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Petco online advises against keeping this Wrasse with any crustaceans although I cannot find any other source which references this. Does anyone know whether this is a real problem? I'm planning to purchase one and mostly certainly can't if this is so.

McCoskers wrasses have no impact or interest in snails, hermits, etc.

75 gal reef with refugium; inverts including snails, skunk shrimp, brittle star, tiny blue leg hermits.

1 sad little yellow tail damsel the damsels will be a problem
2 bully blue damsels (damsels all came with tank)
1 firefish
1 kaudern cardinal
1 pj cardinal
1 brittle star careful, green ones eat fish
1 skunk shrimp
2 false percs
except for the damsels, should be fine


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Unread 05/15/2014, 10:35 AM   #10787
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Follow up question, er, two.

Recapping:

In a 48x24x26

Royal Gramma
Bicolor Blenny
Hoeven's Wrasse
Zebra Barred Dartfish x 3
Spotted Cardinals x 3-4
Dispar Anthias x 3-4
Huchtii Anthias x 3-4
Eibli Angel
Kole Tang

With 100 lbs live rock, 120 lbs fine sand, CUC.

1. Substitute Sunrise Dottyback x 2-3 for the Royal Gramma? absolutely not, pseudochromis are hyper aggressive
2. When tank is well established add CBB? not after the kole tang
2.5. Is this load getting too much for rational husbandry, with the multiple feedings daily of the anthias, etc. Total system actual water amount is around 110 gallons. no, it is ok from that perspective

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Unread 05/15/2014, 11:57 AM   #10788
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Thanks Steve, those darn Damsels...such a pretty fish to be so nasty! They'll be donated to the LFS and then sold to another poor sucker I'm sorry to say. I don't want to kill them.


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Thanks Steve, those darn Damsels...such a pretty fish to be so nasty! They'll be donated to the LFS and then sold to another poor sucker I'm sorry to say. I don't want to kill them.
Yes, I do not believe in ever killing fish. We owe them our best efforts.


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Unread 05/15/2014, 06:36 PM   #10791
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150 gallon mixed reef Inhabitants: tank is a year old in a week.

Black Ice Ocellaris Clownfish
Amphiprion ocellaris var.
Clownfish
Added: September 4, 2013
Quantity: 2

Lyretail Anthias
Pseudanthias squamipinnis
Anthias
Added: October 25, 2013
Quantity: 4

Powder Brown Tang
Acanthurus japonicus
Tangs
Added: May 2, 2014

Radiant Wrasse
Halichores iridis
Wrasse
Added: May 17, 2013

Yellow Tang
Zebrasoma flavescens
Tangs
Added: May 2, 2014

Brittle Sea Star
Ophiocoma sp.
Sea Stars
Added: October 16, 2013
Quantity: 2

Derasa Clam
Tridacna derasa
Clam
Added: July 16, 2013

Dwarf Zebra Hermit Crab
Calcinus laevimanus
Crabs
Added: October 16, 2013
Quantity: 15
Location: Live aquaria

Electric Blue Hermit Crab
Calcinus elegans
Crabs
Added: June 23, 2013
Quantity: 2

Electric Orange Hermit Crab
Calcinus cf elegans
Crabs
Added: June 22, 2013

Inferno anemone
Entacmaea quadricolor
Anemones
Added: January 21, 2014

Rose Bulb Anemone
Entacmaea quadricolor
Anemones
Added: July 3, 2013

Sand Sifting Sea Star
Astropecten polycanthus
Sea Stars
Added: April 22, 2013

Scarlet Skunk Cleaner Shrimp
Lysmata amboinensis
Shrimp
Added: June 22, 2013
Quantity: 2


ADDITIONS (last fish and I'll consider the tank stocked)

Blue Throat Triggerfish
Xanthichthys auromarginatus)
Trigger Fish
Added: June 15, 2014

Firefish, Purple
Nemateleotris decora
Dartfish
Added: June 15, 2014
Quantity: 2

Green Mandarin
Synchiropus splendidus
Dragonets
Added: August 15, 2014


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150 gallon mixed reef Inhabitants: tank is a year old in a week.

Black Ice Ocellaris Clownfish
Amphiprion ocellaris var.
Clownfish
Added: September 4, 2013
Quantity: 2

Lyretail Anthias
Pseudanthias squamipinnis
Anthias
Added: October 25, 2013
Quantity: 4

Powder Brown Tang
Acanthurus japonicus
Tangs
Added: May 2, 2014

Radiant Wrasse
Halichores iridis
Wrasse
Added: May 17, 2013

Yellow Tang
Zebrasoma flavescens
Tangs
Added: May 2, 2014

Brittle Sea Star
Ophiocoma sp.
Sea Stars
Added: October 16, 2013
Quantity: 2

Derasa Clam
Tridacna derasa
Clam
Added: July 16, 2013

Dwarf Zebra Hermit Crab
Calcinus laevimanus
Crabs
Added: October 16, 2013
Quantity: 15
Location: Live aquaria

Electric Blue Hermit Crab
Calcinus elegans
Crabs
Added: June 23, 2013
Quantity: 2

Electric Orange Hermit Crab
Calcinus cf elegans
Crabs
Added: June 22, 2013

Inferno anemone
Entacmaea quadricolor
Anemones
Added: January 21, 2014

Rose Bulb Anemone
Entacmaea quadricolor
Anemones
Added: July 3, 2013

Sand Sifting Sea Star
Astropecten polycanthus
Sea Stars
Added: April 22, 2013

Scarlet Skunk Cleaner Shrimp
Lysmata amboinensis
Shrimp
Added: June 22, 2013
Quantity: 2


ADDITIONS (last fish and I'll consider the tank stocked)

Blue Throat Triggerfish not safe for small fish and most inverts
Xanthichthys auromarginatus)
Trigger Fish
Added: June 15, 2014

Firefish, Purple
Nemateleotris decora
Dartfish
Added: June 15, 2014
Quantity: 2

Green Mandarin
Synchiropus splendidus
Dragonets
Added: August 15, 2014
except as annotated, should be fine


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"Rescue Tank"

HI, We just inherited a "Rescue Tank" from someone no longer able to keep it up. It is a 55 gal, upgraded filtration to Aquatop 400 w/ UV, new crushed aragonite bed, never had any live rock but added about 15lbs of base rock and 20lbs of live rock. No sump or skimmer. Lighting is a Coralife ho t5 with one 10000k and an actinic. Tank had a deep sand bed FULL of worms and no cleanup crew at all. I added 2 nassarius snails, a turbo and 5 others, about a dozen asst. hermits a peppermint shrimp. Existing livestock as follows:
Yellow Tang
Mated pair of Clownfish
Pair of Pajama Cardinals
Threadfin Butterfly (eats everything but the glass!)
Common Cleaner Wrasse (eats even more than the butterfly)
6 Asst. Damsels
Tank has been going for a month now and fish appear healthy and eating well.
Levels are at or near zero, ph has been stuck at 8.0 and have been dosing daily to try to bump it up a bit. Salinity is .0124 - .0126. Any thoughts?????


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Im assumeing an Orchid Dottyback, and Royal Gramma Basslet would not be compatible based on the relative size, color, and preferred areas of a tank?


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100 gallon mixed reef tank
90# rock
3 months

Right now going through quarantine period with survivors

Currently have
1 percula clown
2 firefish
1 coral beauty
1 Lubbocks wrasse
1 neon goby tank raised
Blood red shrimp
Cleaner shrimp
Clean up crews

Looking to add
Yellow tang
Hippo tang
Mandarin-waiting 6 months
Sand sifting star
2 Square box anthias
Goby or jawfish - tank temp is at 77

Any other recommendations for comparable fish would be appreciated?

Is there a better way to introduce fish in a specific order?

Should I look for smaller or bigger fish for dominance issues? (Smaller yellow tang or hippo)
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HI, We just inherited a "Rescue Tank" from someone no longer able to keep it up. It is a 55 gal, upgraded filtration to Aquatop 400 w/ UV, new crushed aragonite bed, never had any live rock but added about 15lbs of base rock and 20lbs of live rock. No sump or skimmer. Lighting is a Coralife ho t5 with one 10000k and an actinic. Tank had a deep sand bed FULL of worms and no cleanup crew at all. I added 2 nassarius snails, a turbo and 5 others, about a dozen asst. hermits a peppermint shrimp. Existing livestock as follows:
Yellow Tang
Mated pair of Clownfish
Pair of Pajama Cardinals
Threadfin Butterfly (eats everything but the glass!)
Common Cleaner Wrasse (eats even more than the butterfly)
6 Asst. Damsels
Tank has been going for a month now and fish appear healthy and eating well.
Levels are at or near zero, ph has been stuck at 8.0 and have been dosing daily to try to bump it up a bit. Salinity is .0124 - .0126. Any thoughts?????
Well, there a lot of fish that should not be in that tank . . .


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Im assumeing an Orchid Dottyback, and Royal Gramma Basslet would not be compatible based on the relative size, color, and preferred areas of a tank?
Depends on tank size. P. fridmani is the last aggressive pseudochromis


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100 gallon mixed reef tank
90# rock
3 months

Right now going through quarantine period with survivors

Currently have
1 percula clown
2 firefish two is not long term stable
1 coral beauty
1 Lubbocks wrasse
1 neon goby tank raised
Blood red shrimp
Cleaner shrimp
Clean up crews

Looking to add
Yellow tang needs a larger tank
Hippo tang needs a much larger tank
Mandarin-waiting 6 months
Sand sifting star
2 Square box anthias
Goby or jawfish - tank temp is at 77

Any other recommendations for comparable fish would be appreciated?

Is there a better way to introduce fish in a specific order?

Should I look for smaller or bigger fish for dominance issues? (Smaller yellow tang or hippo) size is irrelevant, behavior trumps all
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Looks good Scott
Hey Steve, I was looking at DD, would I be able to add a basslet and a blenny to my list or am I over doing it with that?


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Hey Steve, I was looking at DD, would I be able to add a basslet and a blenny to my list or am I over doing it with that?
You will need to give me entire stocking plan and tank size. I have done far too many of these (upwards of 10,000) to remember what folks have.


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