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[WhiteTang]

Originally Posted by snorvich

bioload will be fine but you need to remove the predators that would kill/eat sexy shrimp first.

I already tried to set up a trap but with no good results. From what I have read I have to take down my rock-work, even breaking the rock the *****es are hiding inside... Do you have any recomendation?

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by WhiteTang

I already tried to set up a trap but with no good results. From what I have read I have to take down my rock-work, even breaking the rock the *****es are hiding inside... Do you have any recomendation?

Well outside the scope of this thread. I personally use a controllable fish trap but that would probably be difficult with your sized tank.

[kenman345]

56G, 58lbs Dry Rock, No Sump, BH90 Protein skimmer, CPR In-tank small refugium, 1" Live Sand bed

Current stocking:
1 PJ Cardinal
2 Red Firefish

Planning (in order of additions)
2 Ocellaris Clownfish
1 Bengaii Cardinal (tank bred)
1 Mandarin (after a few more months)

I am mainly concerned if I can add the cardinal after the clownfish without problems. I hear tank bred are a bit hardier so it may be better to add than a wild caught one. The Clownfish will likely be quite young, so if I add the cardinal after (with a 4 week Quarantine period first) then I feel I might be okay. I know the firefish may not last for more than a few months unless it turns out that they are a bonded pair, but adding the cardinal would help me get to the fish I would like to have in the tank, so I would preferably want to add it if I lose a firefish in a few months.

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by kenman345

56G, 58lbs Dry Rock, No Sump, BH90 Protein skimmer, CPR In-tank small refugium, 1" Live Sand bed

Current stocking:
1 PJ Cardinal
2 Red Firefish

Planning (in order of additions)
2 Ocellaris Clownfish
1 Bengaii Cardinal (tank bred)
1 Mandarin (after a few more months)

I am mainly concerned if I can add the cardinal after the clownfish without problems. I hear tank bred are a bit hardier so it may be better to add than a wild caught one.

tank bred are hardier and more likely to survive. As I have told you previously, the mandarin is unlikely to survive long term.


The Clownfish will likely be quite young, so if I add the cardinal after (with a 4 week Quarantine period first) then I feel I might be okay. I know the firefish may not last for more than a few months unless it turns out that they are a bonded pair, but adding the cardinal would help me get to the fish I would like to have in the tank, so I would preferably want to add it if I lose a firefish in a few months.

[sublime9182]

46 gallon bow front
50 pounds of lo in display
45 pounds of sand
Hob overflow
55 gallon sump with 20 pounds of lo
Coral ife 125 super skimmer
Filter Floss
120 watt full spectrum led ( may add a second)

Want to add a carpenter flasher wrasse eventually a clownish corals and in the long run an anemone. Anyone have any additional suggestions and or advice on flasher wrasse being first fish? I have keep saltwater before so I have practice with upkeep and husbandry. Tank is currently empty and cycling.

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by sublime9182

46 gallon bow front
50 pounds of lo in display
45 pounds of sand
Hob overflow
55 gallon sump with 20 pounds of lo
Coral ife 125 super skimmer
Filter Floss
120 watt full spectrum led ( may add a second)

Want to add a carpenter flasher wrasse eventually a clownish corals and in the long run an anemone. Anyone have any additional suggestions and or advice on flasher wrasse being first fish? I have keep saltwater before so I have practice with upkeep and husbandry. Tank is currently empty and cycling.

As those who follow this thread know, I do not provide recommendations for a variety of reasons. However I am always happy to analyze stocking plans along with tank specs. Your plan, so far, is fine depending on the species of clownfish. Be sure the tank is mature before considering an anemone.

[sublime9182]

Originally Posted by snorvich

As those who follow this thread know, I do not provide recommendations for a variety of reasons. However I am always happy to analyze stocking plans along with tank specs. Your plan, so far, is fine depending on the species of clownfish. Be sure the tank is mature before considering an anemone.

Anemone will not be for at least another year or two had a bad experience with previous tank. And probably an oscellaris. Thanks for the info!!!

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by sublime9182

Anemone will not be for at least another year or two had a bad experience with previous tank. And probably an oscellaris. Thanks for the info!!!

good luck! check back with any marine fish compatibility questions.

[MesmatePipe]

will a snowflake eel, a banded cat shark, and a lionfish work,
(I can fit more but I would want you recommendation)

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by MesmatePipe

will a snowflake eel, a banded cat shark, and a lionfish work,
(I can fit more but I would want you recommendation)

Sorry, I do not provide analysis of aggressive fish community tanks. Our aggressive fish forum is the place to ask this question.

[Leviathanth]

So here is what I currently have, and what I am looking to set up in the next year or two.

Currently: 25 gallon bio cube.
1 Kessile ocean blue light,
A coralife biocube skimmer,
Chaeto ball,
2 small powerheads,
About 30 pounds of dry rock that was seeded with some live rock. (Now mostly covered with purplish coralline algae.
Temp kept at 80-81F

Corals:
1 blue mushroom,
God of war Palythoa frag.
Green Dragon eye zoa frag.
Frogspawn frag,
Acan frag,
SPS birdsnest frag.

Critters:
1 Blue hermit crab,
1 Sixline wrasse
1 Algae Blenny.

So I am planning on upgrading to a 150 gallon tank when I have a bigger place. I think I will use my current tank as a sump/frag tank when I do.

I would like to add a bubble tip anemone and a single or pair of black and white snowflake clownfish. My question is would this be ok in my current tank setup, or should I wait until I have the larger tank?

Also once I get a bigger tank I was hoping to add a mandarin dragonette.

Other ideas for my current and future tanks are welcome!

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by Leviathanth

So here is what I currently have, and what I am looking to set up in the next year or two.

Currently: 25 gallon bio cube.
1 Kessile ocean blue light,
A coralife biocube skimmer,
Chaeto ball,
2 small powerheads,
About 30 pounds of dry rock that was seeded with some live rock. (Now mostly covered with purplish coralline algae.
Temp kept at 80-81F

Corals:
1 blue mushroom,
God of war Palythoa frag.
Green Dragon eye zoa frag.
Frogspawn frag,
Acan frag,
SPS birdsnest frag.

Critters:
1 Blue hermit crab,
1 Sixline wrasse will be aggressive now, and a copepod competitor if you ever get a mandarin
1 Algae Blenny.

So I am planning on upgrading to a 150 gallon tank when I have a bigger place. I think I will use my current tank as a sump/frag tank when I do.

I would like to add a bubble tip anemone and a single or pair of black and white snowflake clownfish. My question is would this be ok in my current tank setup, or should I wait until I have the larger tank? clownfish now is fine

Also once I get a bigger tank I was hoping to add a mandarin dragonette. sixline will make that more difficult

Other ideas for my current and future tanks are welcome!

[Shan85]

Hi I have a 75G tank with 35kg LR and 20G refuge.

Current stocking:
a. 2 clown fish - tank bred
b. 2 chromis
c. 1 cleaner shrimp
d. 1 peppermint shrimp

Future stock:
a. 1 Kole tang
b. 1 spot fox face
c. 1 Copperband butterfly
d. 1 Bangaii cardinal
e. 1 dotty back
f. 1 flasher wrasse
g. 1 goby - not sure which one

Are these compatible? I can ditch some fish if the list seems too big for the tank.
I will eventually add corals as well.. But mainly softies since in new to the hobby

[Shan85]

Btw the clowns are both juvenile

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by Shan85

Hi I have a 75G tank with 35kg LR and 20G refuge.

Current stocking:
a. 2 clown fish - tank bred presumably one of the less aggressive species?
b. 2 chromis
c. 1 cleaner shrimp
d. 1 peppermint shrimp

Future stock:
a. 1 Kole tang tank is marginal for both a kole tang and a fox face as they are both algae grazers
b. 1 spot fox face
c. 1 Copperband butterfly difficult, australian endemics are a bit easier
d. 1 Bangaii cardinal
e. 1 dotty back not compatible with a flasher wrasse
f. 1 flasher wrasse
g. 1 goby - not sure which one

Are these compatible? I can ditch some fish if the list seems too big for the tank.
I will eventually add corals as well.. But mainly softies since in new to the hobby

[Shan85]

Hey Steve.. The clowns are occes .. So hopefully not aggressive.

I was thinking of swapping the kole tang for a flame angel. What do you say?

Finally need a recommendation for sand shifters.. Goby? Star fish? Recommendation please

[Bent]

I know that most firefish won't do good together unless they are a mated pair, but what about mixing firefish of different species? Will they still fight?

[Salmo salar]

Current tank info:
37g mixed reef w/10 gal sump.
current livestock:
2 blue/green chromis
1 orange firefish goby
1 lawnmower blenny
sally lightfoot crab
arrow crab
more snails then I can count
mix of lps and sps
about 40 lbs liverock
bare bottom
All this will be transferred into a 6 foot long 125 g in a month or so along with another 150 lbs of live rock.
I really would like to add a flame angel and a powder blue tang, possibly a leopard wrasse or a mystery wrasse. Im pretty sure all would be good but im hesitant about the tang. any suggestions?
The new sump is a 40b and will hold about 30g of water.

[JMurphy97]

Hey i was told to post my stock list here so I can be looked at from those with more experience. Here is the post.

Here is what I'm planning on stocking my 40 breeder with. This tank will be all sps with maybe some lps. I'm using a reef dynamics ins-100 skimmer and I have a reactor for carbon/gfo. I'm on the fence about if I'll run the carbon/gfo though. I like the idea of running only a skimmer and water changes. I'm looking for color and activity at all levels of the sand. Also currently I'm bare bottom. Anyways here's the list and let me know any suggestions. Thanks.


2 O.Clownfish (already have)
3 Zebra Barred Darfish
Midas Blenny
Firefish (Purple or Helfrichi)
Royal Gramma
Banggai Cardinalfish


What order would be best to add them in?

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by Shan85

Hey Steve.. The clowns are occes .. So hopefully not aggressive.

I was thinking of swapping the kole tang for a flame angel. What do you say? Absolutely.

Finally need a recommendation for sand shifters.. Goby? Star fish? Recommendation please

My recommendation is NONE. No sand sifters. If you want enhanced cleanup, look at fighting conchs, nassarius snails, etc.

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by Salmo salar

Current tank info:
37g mixed reef w/10 gal sump.
current livestock:
2 blue/green chromis will become one over time most likely
1 orange firefish goby
1 lawnmower blenny
sally lightfoot crab can take fish
arrow crab can take fish
more snails then I can count
mix of lps and sps
about 40 lbs liverock
bare bottom
All this will be transferred into a 6 foot long 125 g in a month or so along with another 150 lbs of live rock.
I really would like to add a flame angel and a powder blue tang, possibly a leopard wrasse or a mystery wrasse. I would not do a mystery wrasse and a leopard wrasse; the leopard is fine, the mystery wrasse, in addition to being a copepod competitor can be aggressive towards similars and shrimp Im pretty sure all would be good but im hesitant about the tang. any suggestions? in a 125 gallon tank one powder blue would do fine
The new sump is a 40b and will hold about 30g of water.

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by JMurphy97

Hey i was told to post my stock list here so I can be looked at from those with more experience. Here is the post.

Here is what I'm planning on stocking my 40 breeder with. This tank will be all sps with maybe some lps. I'm using a reef dynamics ins-100 skimmer and I have a reactor for carbon/gfo. I'm on the fence about if I'll run the carbon/gfo though. I like the idea of running only a skimmer and water changes. I'm looking for color and activity at all levels of the sand. Also currently I'm bare bottom. Anyways here's the list and let me know any suggestions. Thanks.


2 O.Clownfish (already have)
3 Zebra Barred Darfish my concern with these is with the firefish which are easily intimidated
Midas Blenny can nip fins of planktivores
Firefish (Purple or Helfrichi)
Royal Gramma controls a small territory but in your sized tank will preclude some future tankmates
Banggai Cardinalfish should be tank raised


What order would be best to add them in?

[Shan85]

Ok will get the flame angel instead of kole tang. No sand sifters.

Final question.. Dotty back or flasher wrasse .. Which fish would suit the tank better?

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by Shan85

Ok will get the flame angel instead of kole tang. No sand sifters.

Final question.. Dotty back or flasher wrasse .. Which fish would suit the tank better?

unquestionably the flasher wrasse. All species except the eight line flasher from the Red Sea are behaviorally identical.

[Shan85]

Thanks Steve