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Unread 03/11/2009, 10:50 PM   #1076
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a pic, more to come on the weekend

I've only got time to post one pic. It took a lot longer to set up than I had planned. I was looking to make walls and a center island with my live rock, but I didn't have as much as I originally thought I did. Anyway, I managed to make a lost of nice caves, and the walls are actually pretty steep but stable. There are tons of shelves for corals, if I go that route.
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Unread 03/12/2009, 12:02 AM   #1077
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the tanks looking great bernie


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Unread 03/12/2009, 12:03 AM   #1078
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great start ben,i reckon photobucket is the best way to show pictures


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Unread 03/12/2009, 12:19 AM   #1079
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Looking good Benji. Aquascaping really does make the time fly, doesn't it? Did you just stack the rock that steep, or did you adhere it together somehow?

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Unread 03/12/2009, 09:04 AM   #1080
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Well I did it last night... It was great... Oh, and I installed the vortech pumps too! (hahah, bad joke i know).

So the vortech MP40's are in the tank. Photos inc, got to get them off the camera... and a video too!

One on each wall approximately the same place from each other, but that was just where they looked good/ended up cause of my aquascaping. I went with MP40's because I wanted to run them at a less than 100% speed due to reported noise issues. It's true, they are noisy at full-speed... with TV on, it's noticable.. i'm still tuning them, will keep ya'all posted if I get it better... anyhow at 40% speed its only noticable when we are sitting in the room, nothing on, and reading a book/newspaper... and it's not bad at all.

So the good news, I can generate about 6400gph of flow in the 90gal tank... hahaha... yes, that's a frigg'n hurricane if/when I want one...

I did successfully generate a wave in the tank. The wave was between 2 and 3 inches from crest to trough! So waves in a corner tank are very possible... every coral that "moves" in my tank was swaying back and fourth, so the wave carried to the entire tank, not just the surface water. My stand is not re-enforced for wave motion, so after my experiment I went to lagoon mode. (random lazy flow)... I know for sure I could have made a bigger wave... I only had the pumps at 60% or there abouts but was getting worried about spilling water out of the tank. I have a vid of this, I'll be posting on Youtube and linking into this forum...

This kind of system is expensive, no doubt, but Echotech makes the vortech pumps at the lowest cost, and they are the best out there (IMO). of course, everone plugs the product they bough... haha...


For those thinking of this pump system and worried about our corner tank design and wave/flow coverage, I can attest that there are NO issues if you use two pumps, one on each side... With a "single" MP40, I was not able to get sufficient flow into the back of my rock work... It was there, but I was not happy with it... with two of them, it's no issues at all. One MP40 and a Korillia would be fine, for budget reasons and give all the benefits of random, pulsing, flow... But why have one when you can get 2?


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Unread 03/12/2009, 09:28 AM   #1081
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Ive been thinking about adding a second mp40 to my tank ever since I got my first one. mine is running at 100% and isnt too loud.

So what mode did you leave them on. Also are they synced?


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Unread 03/12/2009, 09:30 AM   #1082
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I cant wait to see the pics and video of your flow. I have been thinking of doing something with mine. I have mostly softies and LPS so I dont need the flow that the SPS need but my flow is so inconsistent. I have 4 powerheads in the back of my tank all kinda blowing through my rockwork. I have a few corals that like more flow like torches and that limits my options as to where I can put them. I'm thinking about going back through this thread and reading up on the hot points on corner tank flow.


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Unread 03/12/2009, 09:34 AM   #1083
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As a little side note, sometime in April i'm going to Buffalo for the weekend and get to go to my favorite all time store - A Reef Creation!!!! (www.areefcreation.com) There is an Acan frag pack i'm going to pick up: 6 frags that are about 2-3" each for $150. I have one Acan Echinatta, and really only want a couple more Acans in my tank, but i don't think i can get them as cheap if i don't get the frag pack. So.....if anyone is interested that lives near Elmira, NY (Upstate NY) and you want me to try to get a certain color frag for you, please let me know, and we could meet up to exchange them! I'm pretty sure there's not all that many people on here that live very close, but let me know! I guess if i have to i'll keep all the frags for myself, and maybe i could ship them or trade them into my LFS or something.
reefscape, I'm in Rochester and i LOVE going to buffalo for fish store field trips. ARC is definitely worth the drive. That sounds like a great deal there and I wish I could help you out and take some of those frags off your hands for you but I have never tried acans and I dont think i'm ready for them yet. Looks like you're stuck with them. Shucks!


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Unread 03/12/2009, 09:48 AM   #1084
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I have them in lagoon mode right now... I want to try that for a bit, then try reef-crest. I've no preference right now.

Yes, they are synced... man that process could not be easier... you simply hold some buttons for 3seconds... one button combo sets the controller to MASTER, another button combo sets it to slave... set one to master and the rest to slave mode... and you are done..... Ignore the slave controllers now, they do whatever your master does... simple, simple, simple.. Speed, mode, etc all synced from the master...

You set the slaves to one of two modes, either matched or opposite... in matched they do the same as the master, in opposite they do the opposite... To create a wave, i set the mode to PULSE and the slave to "opposite" mode.. one pump pushes for 1sec or so, then the other pushes back... There is a 1 page manual, and it's all you need... so completely simple it should be illegal.



PS: Kelso1980 - Acans are the easiest corals to keep. Often sold as beginner corals. If you can keep your water wet, you can keep acans...


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Unread 03/12/2009, 11:51 AM   #1085
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Acans are the easiest corals to keep. Often sold as beginner corals. If you can keep your water wet, you can keep acans...
Thats hillarious, lol, also true though!!

RuffRidin, Hookup... I am thinking of doing a Koralia4 & MP40W combo, my only problem is I cant seem to fid a spot where the flow of the MP40 wouldnt crash w the other wall almost immediately. Where do you guys have yours placed? Some pics would help...


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Unread 03/12/2009, 12:01 PM   #1086
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Pic's tonight.. but basically, from the corner where the front-glass meets the wall-glass, go down about 6-10" and back about 10-14". That's about where mine are...


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Unread 03/12/2009, 12:22 PM   #1087
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here is a pic of mine, I have it running at 100% on reef crest. I feel like the left side could use more flow.




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Unread 03/12/2009, 02:17 PM   #1088
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Kelso - HAHAHA!!!! I know it's a real shame that if i end up having to keep 6 Acan frags! And yes they seem very easy to keep. They don't really need a lot of light at all, and i keep them in moderate to high flow areas of the tank. I know what you mean though, when your hesitant to get them, probably mostly because of the price! They are expensive little things, but the colors that Randy has them in is incredible!!!!

Hookup - I wouldn't be concerned about having those things run at 100%. 6500gph in a 92 compared to around 5000 (soon to come) in my 54gal. I wish i could get Vortecs, but i'm sticking with modded Korallias. Also this weekend i'm doing a mesh mod and bubble plate mod on my skimmer. I hope it works!


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Unread 03/13/2009, 07:36 AM   #1089
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5000gph!!! do you have any sand in your tank???? I'm assuming no... 100x turnover! PETA will be all over that cause you're fish will never sleep.ahaha


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Unread 03/13/2009, 08:33 AM   #1090
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w15wOWcZ7Mo

This is the 2xMP40 waves in the corner.. you can see placement of the pumps as well.. and hear us all talking in the background... haha...

Photo-blog coming of how to setup these pumps, but honestly... it could not be simpler.. unless it came with a midget who set it up for you and yelled out "boss, da wave, da wave" when he was finished...


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Unread 03/13/2009, 08:40 AM   #1091
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HAHAHA!!!!! Yes i do have sand, but i'm hoping i can position the PH's so it's not a sandstorm in there. I need a lot more flow, and i really don't like the look of bare bottom, so i'm just gonna go for it and see what happens. I think the sand will end up setteling, and i'll be able to get the flow adjusted eventually


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Thanks for the pics and videos guys, Im convinced, Im going to get 1. Nice tanks by the way!!!


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Unread 03/13/2009, 03:42 PM   #1093
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I put in the rock first, planning to have a center island type setup. It just sort of ended up being kind of steep, but the rock is right on the bottom with the sand poured in after the rockwork was stable.

I need ideas for filtration. I can't have a sump because I have small kids and other small pets. I was planning to use and aquafuge HOB refugium, but I had a canopy built instead. The openings in the canopy are 12" long, extremely limiting my filtration possibilities. I have an AquaC Remora skimmer, and an Aquaclear 70 right now. I guess I could mod the ac70 into a fuge, but it would be too tiny for a 54g.
Your thoughts? What about a HOB canister and just filling it with cheatto?


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Unread 03/13/2009, 04:16 PM   #1094
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Big Benji...

First... Shake & Bake is a funny line... I assume it's a movie quote... We had a guy at work that we dubbed Rickey-bobby... very funny times...

Second... Am I understanding fully correctly that you are going to run everything HOB style on the 54g? That's fine, but I think you'll have to rule out some of the more sensitive items... or be dilligent on husbandry...

For a fuge planning, do remember to throw a light on it and if possible light it in reverse of the DT... but without LR in it that's limited value... I'm sure you thought of this, but somone on my home-town forums did not realize this so I thought i'd throw it out there.


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Unread 03/13/2009, 04:38 PM   #1095
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Here is a pic of a corner tank that I designed and set up in virginia beach. The tank is cloudy because I took the pic right after I cleaned it.




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Unread 03/13/2009, 06:38 PM   #1096
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Biowerks - Nice looking tank! What is it? Dimensions, capacity, etc. I like the Yellow Sea Rod. You don't usually see them all that much


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Big Benji - The CPR 2.5 gal HOB fuge is 12" long. I managed to hang one on the side of my 20gal. and now it's on my 54. I have about 3-4" of Miracle Mud, some small pieces of rock, Chaeto, Red and Green Grape Caulpera, Mexicana (Feather) Caulpera and Sawblade Calupera. There's TONS of pods and stuff in there crawling and swiming around. I put 2 Nassarius snails in just to keep the sand stirred up a little bit, and they didn't wipe out any pods that i noticed. If you can wedge one in your spot, i'd recomend it. I've been pretty pleased with mine, but i wish i could dump my skimmer outlet in there to feed it instead of taking water from the display to feed it. Also, you could DIY a fuge pretty easily with some acrylic and make it any size you need. Good luck!


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Unread 03/13/2009, 07:29 PM   #1098
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w15wOWcZ7Mo

This is the 2xMP40 waves in the corner.. you can see placement of the pumps as well.. and hear us all talking in the background... haha...

Photo-blog coming of how to setup these pumps, but honestly... it could not be simpler.. unless it came with a midget who set it up for you and yelled out "boss, da wave, da wave" when he was finished...
That's nuts! I would love a pair of those...maybe in our next tank.


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Reefscape, the smallest aquafuge I can find is 13" long, but 12" tall. I really don't want to mess with the canopy any more. I may need to DIY a hob fuge that's just either really deep or really wide. I'm guessing I would need a stand for it if it gets too big.

As for your fuge picking up water from your skimmer, have you looked at the surface skimmer attachments for the AquaC remora? It has 2 compartments, and I know another powerhead would fit in the output side of the skimmer. The only problem would be a giant black box in your tank, and you'd have to put your skimmer and fuge next to each other. I have one on my skimmer, but I've already DIY'd a smaller one.


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Wow! What a thread! Took me a long time to glance thru all 44 pages. Given the constrains and challenges of a corner tank I am impressed with all the different designs and great ideas discussed in this thread. I hope I can share with you my experience of starting a 92 g corner tank which I built two years ago.

Here are a couple of pictures of the tank tonight. I will try to find some of the pictures during construction and post them later.






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