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[snorvich]

Originally Posted by billy mitchell

I have a 220gal tank that has cycled and would like to know what fish's to add to the tank in order every few weeks
there is lots of room and caves and swimming area's
any suggestions on my list would be appreciated
Here is my list

coral beauty 3"
flame angel 3"
2 royal gamma
pajama' card's 2 pair
carpenter flasher wrasse 4 female 1 male prolific jumpers so 1/4 inch mesh would be required
2 ocellaris clowns
8 zebra bar dart fish
yellow tang...3" tangs concurrently and last fish added
purple tang...3"
if I can get mated pair...firefish pairs will not survive long term; almost always only a single will work
.........................pair ..purple dart

Except as annoted, should be fine

[ChiReefGuy]

Hey all. So just getting a tank started, and thought I'd post my fish wish list and see some opinions. Going to be a reef tank, so corals will eventually be incorporated as well. In general with my size tank would 3-4 fish max be the recommendation?

Pair of black and white ocellaris clowns
Some sort of blenny or goby, undecided on which one yet
couple of cleaner shrimp.

Thoughts/recommendations?

Thanks!!!

-Nick

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by ChiReefGuy

Hey all.

This thread is answered only by Reef Central Staff. If you want general opinions start your own thread in the reef fish forum.

So just getting a tank started, and thought I'd post my fish wish list and see some opinions. Going to be a reef tank, so corals will eventually be incorporated as well. In general with my size tank would 3-4 fish max be the recommendation?

depends on behavior, ecological niche and size of fish. But 5-6 peaceful small fish is doable.

Pair of black and white ocellaris clowns
Some sort of blenny or goby, undecided on which one yet
couple of cleaner shrimp.

All of the above is fine. For blennies, wait until tank is mature since they graze on algae.

Thoughts/recommendations?

Thanks!!!

-Nick

[Prankster11]

6 gallon fluval edge...standard filtration= carbon, sponge, bioballs (similar to bioballs)...4.5-5 pounds of live rock...plus 1 inch of fiji black sand...1 false perc...3.5 gallon water change a week...


I was wondering if I would be able to put a clown goby in too? I realize probably not....thinking about adding a little sump to it...

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by Prankster11

6 gallon fluval edge...standard filtration= carbon, sponge, bioballs (similar to bioballs)...4.5-5 pounds of live rock...plus 1 inch of fiji black sand...1 false perc...3.5 gallon water change a week...


I was wondering if I would be able to put a clown goby in too? I realize probably not....thinking about adding a little sump to it...

A clownfish needs a significantly larger tank.

[redheadedgirl]

Hi Fish Friends!

My tank has been up and running for a whole 5 weeks tomorrow - hooray!!! Its a 159 litre with sump/refugium. I've got 60lb of Caribsea Life Rock in display tank with course and fine sand. The sump/refugium is in 4 parts; protein skimmer, sand and cheato, sponge filter, return pump. Salinity is around 1024-1025, ammonia is 0, nitrite is 0 and nitrate is low 10 (Salifert kits), temp is around 24C (running at around 26C at moment with hot weather - 6-fan cooler unit on order).

I've currently got 2 red legged hermits, 3 star snails and 3 cerise snails.

I know what fish I want, which are:-

4 blue green chromis, 4 common clownfish, 4 lemon damselfish, spangled goby, cleaner wrasse, mandarin or dragonet/scooter blenny.

That's my plan for fish. My question is "can I have another goby in my tank with the spangled goby?" I know the spangled goby is small, only reaching about 6cm, and I do intend on getting a pistol shrimp, but will I be able to have another goby such as the randalls goby?

What would you suggest if a second goby is possible?

I am planning to have a reef system with corals and anemones, but that is a long way off yet.

Thanks.

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by redheadedgirl

Hi Fish Friends!

My tank has been up and running for a whole 5 weeks tomorrow - hooray!!! Its a 159 litre with sump/refugium. I've got 60lb of Caribsea Life Rock in display tank with course and fine sand. The sump/refugium is in 4 parts; protein skimmer, sand and cheato, sponge filter, return pump. Salinity is around 1024-1025, ammonia is 0, nitrite is 0 and nitrate is low 10 (Salifert kits), temp is around 24C (running at around 26C at moment with hot weather - 6-fan cooler unit on order).

I've currently got 2 red legged hermits, 3 star snails and 3 cerise snails.

I know what fish I want, which are:-

4 blue green chromis, 4 common clownfish, 4 lemon damselfish, spangled goby, cleaner wrasse, mandarin or dragonet/scooter blenny.

well, first of all . . . 4 chromis will become one chromis over time, 4 clownfish will become two clownfish over time, the damsels will limit tank mates due to their aggressive nature in a small tank, a mandarin or any dragonet will be very difficult to maintain in this sized tank due to the nature of their metabolism and the small tank size with regard to copepod availability.

That's my plan for fish. My question is "can I have another goby in my tank with the spangled goby?" I know the spangled goby is small, only reaching about 6cm, and I do intend on getting a pistol shrimp, but will I be able to have another goby such as the randalls goby? no. you will not be able to have two commensal shrimp gobies in this sized tank.

What would you suggest if a second goby is possible?

I am planning to have a reef system with corals and anemones, but that is a long way off yet.

Thanks.

[redheadedgirl]

Oh dear! I thought I had planned my fish list really well with the "What Fish" and "What Invertebrate" books. Back to the drawing board then

Thanks for you response - I appreciate it

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by redheadedgirl

Oh dear! I thought I had planned my fish list really well with the "What Fish" and "What Invertebrate" books. Back to the drawing board then

I did not even comment on the fact that hermit crabs will kill snails so you are better going with crabs or snails but not both. Also note that chromis are highly susceptible to uronema marinum so you had best have a plan to quarantine all fish but this species particularly.

Thanks for you response - I appreciate it

always glad to help and will reanalyze once you provide a new stocking plan.

[slickmin]

Hey guys looking for stocking ideas for my 100 gallon 48 24 20 rimless tank with trigger systems 36 sump 90 lb live rock. Vertex 150 protein skimmer. Thanks

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by slickmin

Hey guys looking for stocking ideas for my 100 gallon 48 24 20 rimless tank with trigger systems 36 sump 90 lb live rock. Vertex 150 protein skimmer. Thanks

As those who follow this thread know, I do not provide recommendations for a variety of reasons. However I am always happy to evaluate stocking plans with tank descriptions for compatibility. However if you you want general discussion, please post your question in Reef Fish and you will get lots of suggestions.

[firemangrover]

New to the hobby and still building tank. Interested on any advice on tank set up to help accommodate my wishes. I plan to grow corals and would appreciate any suggestions. I would like a couple clown fish since my kids love them. Not sure of the type of clown yet. A tang of some sort and a cow fish. My wife loves mandarin fish and hopes to get one. Any suggestions on small compatible fish will be considered. The tank will be a 55 gallon with t5 lighting (2 10k bulbs, 2 acitinic bulbs, blue moon lighting). Water goes into 3 gallon wet/dry sump with bio balls then to a 10 gallon refugium. Refugium has protein skimmer and normal set up. Thanks for any advice and I look forward to this long fulfilling hobby.

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by firemangrover

New to the hobby and still building tank. Interested on any advice on tank set up to help accommodate my wishes. I plan to grow corals and would appreciate any suggestions. I would like a couple clown fish since my kids love them. Not sure of the type of clown yet.

species of clownfish is a critical decision since the aggressive species will want to control your entire tank

A tang of some sort and a cow fish.

tangs of any species are not appropriate to this sized tank and a cowfish needs a much larger tank

My wife loves mandarin fish and hopes to get one.

a mandarin is a difficult fish because they eat copepods and their metabolism is such that they eat constantly. Unless you add a producing refugium, a mandarin would not do well long term without exceptional effort.

Any suggestions on small compatible fish will be considered. The tank will be a 55 gallon with t5 lighting (2 10k bulbs, 2 acitinic bulbs, blue moon lighting). Water goes into 3 gallon wet/dry sump with bio balls then to a 10 gallon refugium. Refugium has protein skimmer and normal set up. Thanks for any advice and I look forward to this long fulfilling hobby.

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[Noah 123]

I would like to start up a small tank (1-5 gallons) for a few blue leg and scarlet hermit crabs. I know water quality and salinity would be a bit hard to maintain, but I'd be willing to take the challenge. Does anyone see a problem with this? The tank will have live rock and sand, and I want a starfish so a micro brittle star probably. No coral or anything else, just the crabs and brittle star.


Current tanks: 21 gallon freshwater (lyre tail Molly, lyre tail sword, neon tetras, glow light tetras, unknown tetra, pictus catfish, South American bumblebee catfish, indian glass fish, nerite snail, rock shrimp)
10 gallon semi aquatic brackish tank ( fiddler crabs, Chinese algae eater, zebra danios, amano shrimp

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by Noah 123

I would like to start up a small tank (1-5 gallons) for a few blue leg and scarlet hermit crabs. I know water quality and salinity would be a bit hard to maintain, but I'd be willing to take the challenge. Does anyone see a problem with this? The tank will have live rock and sand, and I want a starfish so a micro brittle star probably. No coral or anything else, just the crabs and brittle star.


Current tanks: 21 gallon freshwater (lyre tail Molly, lyre tail sword, neon tetras, glow light tetras, unknown tetra, pictus catfish, South American bumblebee catfish, indian glass fish, nerite snail, rock shrimp)
10 gallon semi aquatic brackish tank ( fiddler crabs, Chinese algae eater, zebra danios, amano shrimp

This thread is only about Marine Fish Compatibility. For this question it would be best to start your own thread in New to the Hobby.

[msderganc]

Hi Steve,

Quick question for you - I was sold two bangaii cardinals as a "mated pair" but it's become apparent that they are both female (by vent method).

What's your experience with two female bangaiis existing in a tank together? It's about 200gal.

Thanks,
Matt

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by msderganc

Hi Steve,

Quick question for you - I was sold two bangaii cardinals as a "mated pair" but it's become apparent that they are both female (by vent method).

What's your experience with two female bangaiis existing in a tank together? It's about 200gal.

Thanks,
Matt

Two males will not work for sure. Two females may pick opposite locations, depending on aquascaping, and coexist. Subjective odds: 50/50

[msderganc]

Originally Posted by snorvich

Two males will not work for sure. Two females may pick opposite locations, depending on aquascaping, and coexist. Subjective odds: 50/50

Thanks Steve. Some more info - up until a couple of days ago, they would stay mostly in completely opposite corners unless it was feeding time. We'll call them A&B. A would stay on the right, and lightly defend her half of the tank, but it was just occasional chasing (B was very passive). Strangely, at night, B would go over to A (sometimes vice versa) and they would swim together. It was similar to the pairing behavior I've researched, where they would continuously switch positions.

Cut to a couple of days ago. I wake up and I find B in her normal spot. A, the generally more aggressive of the two, was hiding in a dark corner between my overflow and return. She has been hanging out in weird spots like that, but will come out for food and eat fine.

I haven't seen B act aggressively towards A, but A has a split top caudal fin. No bite marks, just the top fin is split. I thought it might have been a powerhead injury or something, but she's acting very shy.

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by msderganc

Thanks Steve. Some more info - up until a couple of days ago, they would stay mostly in completely opposite corners unless it was feeding time. We'll call them A&B. A would stay on the right, and lightly defend her half of the tank, but it was just occasional chasing (B was very passive). Strangely, at night, B would go over to A (sometimes vice versa) and they would swim together. It was similar to the pairing behavior I've researched, where they would continuously switch positions.

Cut to a couple of days ago. I wake up and I find B in her normal spot. A, the generally more aggressive of the two, was hiding in a dark corner between my overflow and return. She has been hanging out in weird spots like that, but will come out for food and eat fine.

I haven't seen B act aggressively towards A, but A has a split top caudal fin. No bite marks, just the top fin is split. I thought it might have been a powerhead injury or something, but she's acting very shy.

You are seeing aggression resulting in intimidation. I would take one out. Remember cardinals are out and about at night.

[msderganc]

Originally Posted by snorvich

You are seeing aggression resulting in intimidation. I would take one out. Remember cardinals are out and about at night.

Thanks Steve. I'll try to catch her.

[jonathanyhsu]

I tried digging through LiveAquaria for fish that are suitable for my smaller 36gallon tank, as well as relatively easy to care for and hardy. Right now the tank is empty (and quite bare, see picture) except for a dozen Nassarius snails, and the water parameters are 0.0 ammonia/nitrites/nitrates now that it's cycled.

I'm open to the timing of introducing the fish, I just wanted to get feedback on the longer term stocking plan.

1. 2 Blue Green Chromis
2. 1 Gold Assessor Basslet
3. 2 Black & White Ocellaris Clownfish
4. 1 Azure Damsel

Additionally, are there any recommended further steps I should perform on the tank before purchase and quarantine? Any other life I should establish first?

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by jonathanyhsu

I tried digging through LiveAquaria for fish that are suitable for my smaller 36gallon tank, as well as relatively easy to care for and hardy. Right now the tank is empty (and quite bare, see picture) except for a dozen Nassarius snails, and the water parameters are 0.0 ammonia/nitrites/nitrates now that it's cycled.

I'm open to the timing of introducing the fish, I just wanted to get feedback on the longer term stocking plan.

1. 2 Blue Green Chromis will become one over time
2. 1 Gold Assessor Basslet
3. 2 Black & White Ocellaris Clownfish
4. 1 Azure Damsel will limit tank mates due to aggression

timing is always most aggressive last, most passive first; there are lots of other small peaceful fish that would work in your tank

Additionally, are there any recommended further steps I should perform on the tank before purchase and quarantine? Any other life I should establish first?

[jonathanyhsu]

Thanks for the super quick response! Could you elaborate more on your comment regarding the Blue Green Chromis? Everything I've read says they are peaceful towards each other and school, so I wasn't sure why it would become one fish over time. Is it because of intra-species aggression or some other species on my list?

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by jonathanyhsu

Thanks for the super quick response! Could you elaborate more on your comment regarding the Blue Green Chromis? Everything I've read says they are peaceful towards each other and school, so I wasn't sure why it would become one fish over time. Is it because of intra-species aggression or some other species on my list?

With chromis, especially in small tanks, one dominant one will kill the remainder. Not immediately, but over time. Unfortunately books are books and are often incomplete or wrong.

[deltafish]

just started a ten gallon nano....

would an ocellaris pair be too much? or should i just stick to a single clown